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When I was young I got a whooping for calling my dad by his real name over and over. I never acted up again. Now kids are always acting up and parents be softer than a landing after 2ft of fresh pow. Whats the motive, should parents whoop kids or be soft pussy white knight headasses?
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I think a bigger issue is people jot engaging with their kids and being afraid to say no/set boundaries. You don't have to beat your kid to get them to stop. Worst is people stuck int their phone ignoring there kids or being like "stop it" it the quietest voice while theyre browsing insta or whatever.
Don't have kids if you can't be bothered to take care of them. There are enough shitheads in the world already.
theabortionatorI think a bigger issue is people jot engaging with their kids and being afraid to say no/set boundaries. You don't have to beat your kid to get them to stop. Worst is people stuck int their phone ignoring there kids or being like "stop it" it the quietest voice while theyre browsing insta or whatever.Don't have kids if you can't be bothered to take care of them. There are enough shitheads in the world already.
This right here, parents need to be engaged. Kids left unattended because the parent is glued to their phone will make the kid do things that will get their attention.lol Also, people are having kids just to have kids and then pawning them off to their parents to raise. Lots of grand parents raising kids out there due to people not being able to handle it.
Physically connecting with your child is not remotely close to child abuse when appropriate. Communication and other approaches should always be exhausted but sometimes a slap on the ass or a firm tweak of the ear etc will go much further in the right situations. This culture of pussification is embarrassing as a man.
MinggChild abuse is cool but I’m gonna have to say no.
As a guy that works in summer camps, I have to say some children actually need a bop
I have had multiple children who realize this "no contact card" and get up in my face, physical, spanking, and pure disrespectful, as they don't care about loosing things or their parents response. Personally, I think in cases like these, spanking or a shove away is appropriate from a parent. Children need to realize that healthy functioning adults rely on respect for one another, and that they are truly owed nothing in this life. Every "right" has been fought for, ever since our grandfathers were fucking up dinosaurs
That’s what I’m saying! I work at camp too and they act up and don’t seem to care. Even when they get written up they don’t care bc their parents won’t even read it bc their kid is a little “angel”. Parents need the belt too sometimes
icedAs a guy that works in summer camps, I have to say some children actually need a bopI have had multiple children who realize this "no contact card" and get up in my face, physical, spanking, and pure disrespectful, as they don't care about loosing things or their parents response. Personally, I think in cases like these, spanking or a shove away is appropriate from a parent. Children need to realize that healthy functioning adults rely on respect for one another, and that they are truly owed nothing in this life. Every "right" has been fought for, ever since our grandfathers were fucking up dinosaurs
I will say I don't give that many fucks what parents do if they control their children. The worst is public transportation including airplanes. Fuck. Being ona flight with some little douxhebag demon spawn and a piece of shit oblivious "do whatever you want johnny" type parent that either can't control him or thinks everything is cute. Fuck you and your stupid fucking kid and for the love of god can somebody bring me some more wine since I have to deal with this?
My parents spanked me as kid and looking back I deserved it each and every time. The thought of getting taken over dads knee stopped me from doing lots of stupid shit.
I also never felt that my parents hitting me was out of anger but rather the opposite. I remember more than once seeing them cry cause it hurt them too but still did it cause they thought it was best for discipline sake.
Definitely better ways to tell your kids how not to fuck up and what happens when you do fuck up. Almost all kids I know with similar upbringings where parents may have physically hit them like that dont really have the best relationships with family either, not sure if thats a coincidence or not.
Parents just dont put their feet down enough nowadays, the trophy generation is now starting to have kids and they have no idea what the fuck to do.
SkiGuy00That’s what I’m saying! I work at camp too and they act up and don’t seem to care. Even when they get written up they don’t care bc their parents won’t even read it bc their kid is a little “angel”. Parents need the belt too sometimes
yeah the belts only needed when it gets to a certain point, which is usually the fault of 99% of parents
I received ass smacks, slaps and whoopings... as a kid and young teen I hated it , it made me angry, sad, sometimes it made me think sometimes it didn’t , sometimes I remembered that whooping when I was about to do something dumb and it stopped me sometimes it didn’t I’m thankful for what it helped me learn and for me it worked , some kids will not respond well
however I’ve never smacked my 3 kids , they’ve been trying at times but I believe the answer is just so simple , proper parenting ,teach, lead by example , listen, be there for them, love them cherish them , PLAY with them , read to da babies and respect them they’re evolving humans with feeling hopes dreams emotions not pets!
My mom hit me regularly. Dad wasn't in the picture. I think what was worse was the awful emotional abuse and sheer terror by screaming she would inflict on me. It was not a good thing at all. Did not help with anything. I was not a bad kid.
To this day when I confront her about it, she literally cannot register what she did. She's told me she only hit me about 3 times, which is utterly insane.
Anyhow, I have never laid a hand on my kids, and don't plan on it. I guess I wouldn't be opposed to a slap under the most egregious circumstances, though. But that hasn't happened. They are both good, well behaved kids. There are better to teach respect, or punish, or whatever the case may be.
Word, similar situation but parents were together and i got it from both. The physical pain was nothing compared to the emotional toll it took on me. I wasn't a bad kid, they just hated me or something. They never laid a finger on my siblings.
I think it's easy to blur the line between discipline and abuse. Raising well behaved kids is way more complicated than "hit them or don't hit them".
skeirmanMy mom hit me regularly. Dad wasn't in the picture. I think what was worse was the awful emotional abuse and sheer terror by screaming she would inflict on me. It was not a good thing at all. Did not help with anything. I was not a bad kid.To this day when I confront her about it, she literally cannot register what she did. She's told me she only hit me about 3 times, which is utterly insane.
Anyhow, I have never laid a hand on my kids, and don't plan on it. I guess I wouldn't be opposed to a slap under the most egregious circumstances, though. But that hasn't happened. They are both good, well behaved kids. There are better to teach respect, or punish, or whatever the case may be.
Ya me mum is very similar , never acknowledges anything she did and she was quite bad, physical abuse, borderline munchausen, and now dementia/cancer our relationship is shit
my dad was a man of discipline he smacked not hit and it always came after and with talks and explanations tears and hugs and I remember the pain of disciplining me in the eyes of a man struggling to find a better way we had a decent relationship wish it had been better
I tapped toddler butts, but it stopped at 3 for all mine they seemed to get it early
skeirmanMy mom hit me regularly. Dad wasn't in the picture. I think what was worse was the awful emotional abuse and sheer terror by screaming she would inflict on me. It was not a good thing at all. Did not help with anything. I was not a bad kid.To this day when I confront her about it, she literally cannot register what she did. She's told me she only hit me about 3 times, which is utterly insane.
Anyhow, I have never laid a hand on my kids, and don't plan on it. I guess I wouldn't be opposed to a slap under the most egregious circumstances, though. But that hasn't happened. They are both good, well behaved kids. There are better to teach respect, or punish, or whatever the case may be.
notadoctorWord, similar situation but parents were together and i got it from both. The physical pain was nothing compared to the emotional toll it took on me. I wasn't a bad kid, they just hated me or something. They never laid a finger on my siblings.I think it's easy to blur the line between discipline and abuse. Raising well behaved kids is way more complicated than "hit them or don't hit them".
It is easy to blur that line
sorry u went thru that , your right the emotional crushed the physical and is everlasting
man what a serious thread... let’s all just go ski?!?!
Child abuse is pretty whack. It's tough to believe that people who claim to work with children are advocating for violence towards them - I've worked with kids in several different contexts and have a considerable number of friends who still work with them, and neither I nor them have ever had any sort of training encouraging that. As for my own personal experience, my parents never hit me at all, but my aunt did once, when I was about 7, and though I didn't have much respect for her before she slapped me, I had absolutely none afterward.
On a less, anecdotal note, read some abstracts:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3743691/
The first one is a literature review, second a single study. The latter only finds a correlation between a subjective "some" (or more) physical violence inflicted on a child and parent and adverse outcomes, but given how significant the outcomes are and the lack of evidence of any sort of tangible benefit to such violence, there's no justifiable reason to engage in it.
So I'm ending this thread here. The AAP has a lengthy position statement on discipline and how to effectively do it. Read up. Tons of well structured studies have led to their positions and recommendations, and lend much more weight than our anecdotal case reports: https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/101/4/723
I will say I was a fucking terrible kid. I got so many spankings I can't even count and they fucking hurt. Soap in mouth? Yep, bar and liquid. Timeout? Who didn't. Not sure if the spankings even did anything for my behavior because I faked it half the time to have them stop sooner. Also there's plenty of research to show that this isn't the best approach for dogs either yet people still do it.
There's not a fine line in discipline as some here have said. It's pretty fucking obvious. You ever see a family in public berating their 3 yr old for something they can't even understand yet? Yeah too far. Ever see physical punishment in public? If it looks like it went too far, it probably did. Corporal punishment is controversial but it's pretty clear when you cross the line from punishment to abuse and it will have all sorts of negative impacts on your child's development and performance. I've seen all kinds of parenting strategies and it's astounding at times how fucking stupid the parents can be. Also seen way too many times what happens when parents (or boyfriends) go too far.
It sounds like there's a mix of opinions in here (old school, mixed, progressive, and Russian), and everyone is free to do what they wish. If you haven't had kids yet, when you do, I highly suggest reading that link above for advice on how to discipline your child to have best outcomes. Take it or leave it.
theabortionatorFuck. Being ona flight with some little douxhebag demon spawn and a piece of shit oblivious "do whatever you want johnny" type parent that either can't control him or thinks everything is cute.
I gotta give parents traveling with kids significantly more slack than I have in the past because it sucks... but this right here is the shittiest thing ever and it's unfortunately more common than prepared parents that keep their kids occupied and quiet.
Twinjibber77I gotta give parents traveling with kids significantly more slack than I have in the past because it sucks... but this right here is the shittiest thing ever and it's unfortunately more common than prepared parents that keep their kids occupied and quiet.
Yeah I def give them some slack. It's a shitty spot and it's hard to control kids. Just the ones that make no effort or think it's funny can get fucked.
I've come close to throwing condoms at parents before. At least now with the movie selections it shouldn't be that hard to keep kids somewhat calm. At least make an effort though.
LemuelPutting a screen in front of a kids face is not the answer. In my opinion it’s the problem.
Probably but at that point I really don't care about the well being of that family, I just want to get through that flight. If they've been raising their kid shitty for ____ years I doubt 1 flight is going to change anything, and rather than be part of that social experiment I say give em a screen and tell em to fuck off.
theabortionatorProbably but at that point I really don't care about the well being of that family, I just want to get through that flight. If they've been raising their kid shitty for ____ years I doubt 1 flight is going to change anything, and rather than be part of that social experiment I say give em a screen and tell em to fuck off.
Valid. I will say when I was traveling about a month ago the kids glued to the screens were being "well behaved."
Im glad my dad smacked me whenever i got out of line as a kid. Id literally be humiliated if i had parents that let me be a spoiled little bitch without any repercussions. I cant stand when a kid on a plane purposefully screams bloody murder because they are angry and want to piss off everybody around them by screaming. When parents just try to appease kids like this instead of reasonably disciplining them i want to smack both the kid and their loser parents.
I dont buy the argument that physical discipline lowers the iq of a child. I think getting smacked for doing something bratty or spoiled gives you an insight into why that behavior is unacceptable, and this valuable knowledge i believe will make your kid learn a valuable lesson and grow up to have a higher iq than if your kid grows up thinking that screaming bloody murder in public doesnt present any problems.