I think it’s a boomer thing, I just don’t get how they get excited over a slope covered in bumps it’s just tiring af for no good reason
believe me i'm no mogul fan but it's definitely a respectable aspect of the sport, and good mogul skiers can apply their skills to real life skiing all the time to their benefit
it's a tough discipline and you can set up a demanding moguls course on even the tiniest hills
in my mind it's kind of like east coast skiers getting into rails. sure it can be viewed as a contrived, random ass way to make things difficult for yourself, but that's kind of the point in a way. i can have a ball at a tiny flat mountain (or hell, not even at a mtn) because rails and jumps add a whole new dimension. moguls can be viewed similarly
Moguls played a pretty big part in shaping our sport. Before terrain parks were a thing back when catching air was prohibited, moguls were seen as reckless and dangerous. McConkey’s infamous naked backflip took place during a mogul competition.
Those boomers that you see ripping zipper lines all day were probably pretty gnarly back in their prime. People love to talk about how racing builds fundamentals and makes you a stronger skier but moguls are arguably just as effective, if not more.
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A few things on Moguls:
1. Freestyle skiing was born from Mogul comps.
2. If you can ski Moguls you can ski anything.
3. The CU Freestyle ski team coaches made us ski moguls at least 80% of the day because it forces you to have good form.
4. Its fun as hell to look like a hood rat park skier and rip moguls better than crusty old guys.
5. Not every day is a pow day and a lot of open runs end up as moguls of some type so you might as well get used to skiing them.
Moguls are super challenging to ski well and I think make you a better overall skier. I think they help your vision as well because you have to pick and plan your line a few turns in advance. They're also mad fun when you get some powder on em because you can air on the tops and slash em. Plus they slow down gapers
Because skiing moguls is the best way to develop great form in skiing. If you can ski moguls well, you can virtually ski anything, fast and aggressive.
if u think it’s a “boomer” thing, you’re just a fuckin gaper & probably cant ski weill at all lol.
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Skiing a mogul course is a lot different from just skiing a haggard slope that is gnarly and rutted out. There is a rhythm you get into that can be fun.
It is where the original Hot Dog skier came from. Bumps are where its at, I like my pow runs and a groomer every so often but if you can ski bumps, you can ski pretty much anything. Im old but not a boomer, I enjoy doing a few lift line runs to get some props.
Good moguls are hella fun and not that tiring if you get good at them. If there's no new snow and I feel like taking a break from the park I'll choose moguls over a groomer any time.
Tanner Hall is actually a pretty badass mogul skier:
Because the sphincter tightening action of zipping through some spring bumps is a great workout for my bunghole...
SuspiciousFishTanner Hall is actually a pretty badass mogul skier:
Bro t hall was set on course to be one of the best mogul skiers that ever lived...he was a favorite to be on the Olympic team when he was like 14...”pretty badass” is understatement.
SuspiciousFishTanner Hall is actually a pretty badass mogul skier:
Chubz.Bro t hall was set on course to be one of the best mogul skiers that ever lived...he was a favorite to be on the Olympic team when he was like 14...”pretty badass” is understatement.
yeah, a ton of that crop of freeskiers were mogul skiers. like, most of them probably
we should just bring hot dogging back but with rails too
If you don't like rippin bumps on the edge of blowing tf up, you probably suck at skiing bumps.
Oof damn a controversial one. Not denying skiing moguls well is impressive and requires good technique and is a step in progressing your skiing, and how competitive moguls started freeskiing in a way. And yea slashing powder covered moguls is a bit of a wet dream but that’s hardly the same.
I just don’t hear many people getting excited over moguls except older dudes. Just a trend I’ve noticed. Looks like I’m a fucking gaper for not enjoying moguls I better put my ski tip connector back on to help me pizza
The best runs on the mountain are mogul runs.... always. If you're afraid of moguls, I wouldn't ski with you
Anyone who can ski moguls half decently probably knows the feeling when you get a good line going, different sense of adrenaline much to the likes of skiing chutes or tight trees IMO
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SofaKingSickyeah, a ton of that crop of freeskiers were mogul skiers. like, most of them probably
Ahmet has a sick clip of him ripping a zipper line out East in a LTC video I believe, if anyone knows what I'm talking about, please post it.
Delorme was also a mogul skier and competed with/against THALL.
From a rad article on Delorme:
"“My brother won everything he did. He would just fly through the moguls with his feet together,” Mark Jr. says of Adam. “I eventually got into snowboarding but he kept with it and flourished into a good skier.”
Delorme developed into one of the region’s best mogul skiers and one of the top skiers to come out of Montana, alongside the likes of Tanner Hall, another Flathead Valley product who pioneered the freestyle skiing landscape."
If you want to read the whole thing: http://flatheadliving.com/2016/01/28/living-dream/
SofaKingSickbelieve me i'm no mogul fan but it's definitely a respectable aspect of the sport, and good mogul skiers can apply their skills to real life skiing all the time to their benefitit's a tough discipline and you can set up a demanding moguls course on even the tiniest hills
in my mind it's kind of like east coast skiers getting into rails. sure it can be viewed as a contrived, random ass way to make things difficult for yourself, but that's kind of the point in a way. i can have a ball at a tiny flat mountain (or hell, not even at a mtn) because rails and jumps add a whole new dimension. moguls can be viewed similarly
damn... well put my dude
Grabs and grinds didn’t exist but dudes still wanted to pop off
... a lot of rollerblading and snow blading had to go down before new school ski
Moguls are a great way to feel like youre on the edge of exploding
If you watch the vid above of T Hall ripping through moguls and dont smile, you're not a real skier
Because it's more challenging and engaging than carving or scrubbing down groomers.
If you suck at skiing moguls then you suck at skiing
KretzschmarAhmet has a sick clip of him ripping a zipper line out East in a LTC video I believe, if anyone knows what I'm talking about, please post it.Delorme was also a mogul skier and competed with/against THALL.
From a rad article on Delorme:
"“My brother won everything he did. He would just fly through the moguls with his feet together,” Mark Jr. says of Adam. “I eventually got into snowboarding but he kept with it and flourished into a good skier.”
Delorme developed into one of the region’s best mogul skiers and one of the top skiers to come out of Montana, alongside the likes of Tanner Hall, another Flathead Valley product who pioneered the freestyle skiing landscape."
If you want to read the whole thing: http://flatheadliving.com/2016/01/28/living-dream/
All this time I had no idea delorme was from Montana, makes sense why he’s such a psycho
Moguls are the shit. Slushy spring time bumps are actually one of my favourite things to ski. I can absolutely guarantee you, you'll be a better skier for learning how to ski moguls well.
On a busy powder day, everything will be moguls by the end. Might as well know how to shred em.
East coast trees on a lot of trails, short of a pow day, are basically one giant mogul field in the forest. Get gud or get fucked.
But yeah I'm pretty sure anyone who has bad skiing form will be exposed on moguls. They're a blast if you're good at them and annoying if you aren't good at them. I'm neither of the above, just so so, and realize that I must master the bumps. It really separates people apart.
p-didddddyI think it’s a boomer thing, I just don’t get how they get excited over a slope covered in bumps it’s just tiring af for no good reason
Honestly, moguls are so much fucking fun. At the hill I ski, all the good steep runs are bump runs so you kind of just cop it. I remember when a bunch of other instructors and I went and ripped the mogul course they used during a comp in the spring. Dude brapping through moguls and doubling them, scary as hell but fuck me if it isn't fun. sorry for the subtle flex but I skied these moguls at Perisher a couple years ago and someone asked if I was pro. Which is definitely the only time anyone has thought that.
This vid does a pretty good job of showing why moguls is fucking sick.
-arc-Honestly, moguls are so much fucking fun. At the hill I ski, all the good steep runs are bump runs so you kind of just cop it. I remember when a bunch of other instructors and I went and ripped the mogul course they used during a comp in the spring. Dude brapping through moguls and doubling them, scary as hell but fuck me if it isn't fun. sorry for the subtle flex but I skied these moguls at Perisher a couple years ago and someone asked if I was pro. Which is definitely the only time anyone has thought that.This vid does a pretty good job of showing why moguls is fucking sick.
This is the raddest video ever and it blew my mind when I had to watch it for Tecnica shop training. It really opened my eyes to how gnarly bump skiing can be and how high the skill ceiling is to it.
I personally like moguls because I'm trying to destroy my knees as fast as possible which is definitely happening.
p-didddddyI just don’t hear many people getting excited over moguls except older dudes. Just a trend I’ve noticed. Looks like I’m a fucking gaper for not enjoying moguls I better put my ski tip connector back on to help me pizza
BlumpkinPumpkinOn a busy powder day, everything will be moguls by the end. Might as well know how to shred em.East coast trees on a lot of trails, short of a pow day, are basically one giant mogul field in the forest. Get gud or get fucked.
But yeah I'm pretty sure anyone who has bad skiing form will be exposed on moguls. They're a blast if you're good at them and annoying if you aren't good at them. I'm neither of the above, just so so, and realize that I must master the bumps. It really separates people apart.
I grew up skiing bumps and without a doubt it made me a better skier. Maybe I can link a video later, but skiing moguls completely changed how I ski. Even my posture walking is better. My favorite thing to do is rip through tight trees, the more exposed rocks, the better. There is this one gnarly tree skiing line at my home mountain that I have memorized to the point that has a few areas that appear as if you need to take your skis off, but if you know how to link the turns, you can gap over it, and the same goes for other gaps between turns. Learning to think 3 turns ahead makes you a better skier if you ever ski anything other than park.
Also what's more extreme than a discipline where you do tricks while hauling ass, and if you fall, you get literally punched by the ground. Learning to fall gracefully in moguls makes it easier to "leave yourself an out" while skiing anything. When shit hits the fan, being able to stop yourself without nailing a tree is an invaluable skill.
Why ski mogul why wouldn’t you.I don’t mean the pretty little laid out things like they ski in competitions but the real naturally occurring ones.I get board to tears on all those flattened groomers
I like skiing ripper lines, idk why though... but I definitely do appreciate a good line of moguls
If you don’t like slushy spring bump skiing than you’re a goddamn commie.
I used to compete in mogul events.
It a strange feeling of control in a terrain that not easy to control on. Doing it straight down fall line is even harder. There is a rhythm to it. The absorption is what suspension does to a DH bike.
Later, I used these techniques to adapt to my terrain:rock in the way? Jump it without braking form! Tight trees? Jet turns!
When I discovered powder, I apply those techniques to get better, deeper turns.
When the resort is 100% tracked and packed; find a bump line and rip it!
wasatch_ratIf you suck at skiing moguls then you suck at skiing
Exactly. Moguls take serious skill which is why you never see gapers on those runs, only the gnarliest dudes that have many years of experience.
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this, its the same as people asking if they should get tip-tail rocker or camber when they're still skiing blue groomers
If you can ski moguls, it opens up a bunch more terrain, and you can ski in the afternoon on a powder day after it gets bumped out. But the hot dog days are over, there are better places to push your limits on skis.
juss get in the front a yah boots and send em downhill bub
TRVP_ANGELthis, its the same as people asking if they should get tip-tail rocker or camber when they're still skiing blue groomers
Dude what?
tip and tail rocker vs camber can definitely be a good thing to consider for a blue square rider. That rocker makes it easier to initiate turns and harder to catch an edge or have a hooky turn and just generally makes a ski feel shorter/more manageable
SofaKingSickDude what?tip and tail rocker vs camber can definitely be a good thing to consider for a blue square rider. That rocker makes it easier to initiate turns and harder to catch an edge or have a hooky turn and just generally makes a ski feel shorter/more manageable
I disagree, generally if your ability level is limited to beginner to intermediate runs. The difference in profile would be indiscernible.
SofaKingSickDude what?tip and tail rocker vs camber can definitely be a good thing to consider for a blue square rider. That rocker makes it easier to initiate turns and harder to catch an edge or have a hooky turn and just generally makes a ski feel shorter/more manageable
I skied a demo ski with tip and tail rocker for the first time 2 years ago and hit some morning groomer bombs until the back bowls softened up and it was actually pretty enjoyable. You can kind of 'drift' the ski a little instead of always being on edge.
I do remember about 10 years ago when they first came out with fully rockered pow skis it was pretty hilarious seeing rich kids flail around the groomers at Winter Park with them.
TRVP_ANGELI disagree, generally if your ability level is limited to beginner to intermediate runs. The difference in profile would be indiscernible.
Uhh well feel free to “disagree” all you want but it’s pretty much a fact that those features make a ski easier to use for a newbie. Do you also “disagree” that a shorter ski is easier to ride and turn? It’s pretty much the exact same thing, less effective edge makes the ski behave differently