I'd have to say Mississippi or Louisiana cuz they're hillbilly as fuck and poor as shit. Never been to but just know. In terms of states I've been to, WV takes the cake.
Sep 21 2019 1:20PM
Sep 21 2019 1:23PM
Poor is poor no matter the area so thats really not a fair judgement imo.
Being from the midwest myself (Michigan), id say some of those states including small towns in the midwest are loveable shitholes that you can't wait to leave and anyone who doesn't is destined to a life of going to the same bar every night after work and drinking their lives away.
Sep 21 2019 1:27PM
also states like Michigan have are big on blue collar stuff so at least how it was when I grew up, you work your shitty automotive factory job all week so you can go and drink your brains out on the weekends. Alcoholism is huge back there. Literally nothing to do in some areas besides work and drink. All the kids who go to Michigan State or something end up getting fatter because there is literally nothing to do besides go to class and drink.
Sep 21 2019 1:34PM
Im going to have to throw my lot in for Kansas. Its literally flat industrial farming for miles and miles. I have to grab an extra coffee just to make it through the state because the vast nothingness just lulls you to sleep. At least Nebraska has some cool lakes and lots of little fishing holes and stuff.
Sep 22 2019 12:10AM
Sep 22 2019 1:14PM
Province, not a state, but Ontario. Holy fuck it sucks balls. Its super flat, biggest ski hill has maybe 700' vert, and its like a 3 hr drive from where I live. Also, the entire population of Toronto goes there. Southern Ontario is thousands of square miles of suburbs. Most people here are assholes, and everyone drives worse than I've seen anywhere else, even California. If you want to get into the woods, you gotta drive at least 4 hrs north, usually 5+ if you want to really get away. North Ontario is lakes, trees and swamps, and it all looks the same. Even shooting guns here is a pain. Public land is 4hrs north, all the ranges are private, with ridiculous membership fees, and year long waiting lists. 5 weeks until I'm outta here.
Sep 22 2019 5:37PM
FogdartI'd have to say Mississippi or Louisiana cuz they're hillbilly as fuck and poor as shit. Never been to but just know. In terms of states I've been to, WV takes the cake.
West Virginia is sick if you are trying to do some outdoorsy stuff.
I have no desire to go to Nebraska so that probably up there for shitties state imo, most states I can think of a few cool things to do in.
Sep 22 2019 10:09PM
Titus69Nebraska can fuck off, never been more repulsed and unimpressed by anything else.
Can't find a hotel for 100 miles when the cornhuskers play. Also sweet parking somewhere to nap and hearing all the methheads tinkering around the lots. Also flat, straight, and boring as fuck. Ultra shot in snowstorms, Wheres the road again?
Cops in all those states are kinda whack too.
The whole state reminds me of that fight club movie when he feels like he's already been everywhere at a different time. It's a mix between, everything looks the fucking same, and I'e probably at least bought gas at everyone of those exits at least once over the years.
Sep 22 2019 10:10PM
Sep 22 2019 11:16PM
theabortionatorCan't find a hotel for 100 miles when the cornhuskers play. Also sweet parking somewhere to nap and hearing all the methheads tinkering around the lots. Also flat, straight, and boring as fuck. Ultra shot in snowstorms, Wheres the road again?Cops in all those states are kinda whack too.
The whole state reminds me of that fight club movie when he feels like he's already been everywhere at a different time. It's a mix between, everything looks the fucking same, and I'e probably at least bought gas at everyone of those exits at least once over the years.
I only spent my time on the highway and in a motel 6 with just a gas station and a field of windmills, glad that's the only 14 hours I've had there. It's a state with what looks like nothing, not sure how anyone wants to live there.
Sep 23 2019 10:31AM
Titus69I only spent my time on the highway and in a motel 6 with just a gas station and a field of windmills, glad that's the only 14 hours I've had there. It's a state with what looks like nothing, not sure how anyone wants to live there.
Yeah i think it's just born there stay there. Maybe omaha isn't terrible but what else is there. Even Kearny is garbage. It's a state of farms, straight roads, weird politics, and places you'd rather not stop for the night. Driven across 10+ times never a fan. Also fun fact for all you cats moving to CO to ski. You might think it's cool as to grab them CO plates but if you ever drive east Nebraska, Kansas, Ohio, indiana, and even Illinois, Iowa, and Wyoming are also intested in your decision. Some facts for the road if you don't like getting hassled on the highway.
Sep 23 2019 10:56AM
These conversations always fascinate me. The midwestern states that get shit on are usually done so by people who used to or currently do live there. I always try to think about whether the state has any redeeming qualities. Ohio may be a fucking drag to grow up in, but I've visited Columbus and it was pretty cool for a three day stay. Cleveland is a pretty big city and there are the Bengals in Cincinatti. Same argument for Indiana. Indianapolis is an awesome city to visit, Lucas Oil stadium is dope, and if you've never been to the Indy 500 put it on your bucket list.
There are two states I can think of with zero redeeming qualities and no reason to visit.
Nebraska and North Dakota.
Sep 23 2019 11:23AM
CaptainObvious.These conversations always fascinate me. The midwestern states that get shit on are usually done so by people who used to or currently do live there. I always try to think about whether the state has any redeeming qualities. Ohio may be a fucking drag to grow up in, but I've visited Columbus and it was pretty cool for a three day stay. Cleveland is a pretty big city and there are the Bengals in Cincinatti. Same argument for Indiana. Indianapolis is an awesome city to visit, Lucas Oil stadium is dope, and if you've never been to the Indy 500 put it on your bucket list.There are two states I can think of with zero redeeming qualities and no reason to visit.
Nebraska and North Dakota.
Columbus and cleveland are pretty mediocre. Even in the most heinous cities there is stuff to do. That said Columbus and clevaland are my favorite cities in Ohio.
Also sports teams are a rough reason to support a city and a shit reason to support a state imo.
And Indy has some of the worst roads out of any city I've driven. Potentially worse than buffalo NY. There are some fucked areas. I saw some music at the ribfest in 2012 and that was fun though. I'd catch an indy for sure but never made it.
Sep 23 2019 11:56AM
Sep 23 2019 12:20PM
So I live in Columbus, Ohio. Born in northeast. If we are talking Midwest I feel obligated to add input.
Ohio could be split into 4 sections. Some being very very shitty and some being pretty decent. Northeast being the best due to it being the least hillbilly while also not being completely flat- good proximity to northeast states. South East Ohio is basically West Virginia hill billy af. I lived there for a year and it is trash as fuck; so poor, so much drugs, nothing to do, but outdoors is decent. Northwest Ohio, also lived there, is boring and flat af. It's basically Indiana sponsored by Walmart. There's nothing great about northwest Ohio unless you're a human trafficker. Miles and miles of flat boring fucking farmland- such a bad drive. Southwest Ohio, you have Cinci and Dayton. Not bad for a weekend or night with some good breweries and bar scenes but I personally just wouldn't live there.
In terms of cities, they've really stepped up their game the past few years in terms of infrastructure, food, and bars in Cleveland and Columbus. Cleveland is probably my favorite and very underrated. If you're not having fun, it's probably because you're doing something wrong or going to college or dive bars. Dive bars are plentiful but also avoidable. Columbus on the other hand has a fantastic quality bar scene with a good amount of quality breweries and tons of good restaurants. Places to avoid but also too many good ones to choose in a single night. Also HUGE gay scene, like humungo now so that attracts a lot of people. Columbus and somewhat Cleveland is experiencing an outrageous population boom of young adults which is rapidly changing its landscape. If you haven't been to either in the past 3 years, then I could see why some may say they suck.
In terms of outdoors, even though SE Ohio is much more wilderness, I'd have to say NE is better and really helps keep Ohio from being just another boring flat state with a big city. Cleveland metro area has one of the best metropark systems around that links with Akron and Canton. Columbus quite sucks for outdoors. Flat af. Metroparks are flat and paved. Any semi hilly places require driving and mtn biking is mediocre.
It sounds a lot like I'm defending my home state. Well let me tell you there's qualities I like about Ohio, but I do not want to live here my whole life. Biggest comolaint: It's too far from the shit I like to do, skiing especially. Shittiest state though? Far from it.
I agree on WV being great for outdoors but other than that, it's so poor and trashy it's unfathomable.
Sep 23 2019 12:23PM
FogdartSo I live in Columbus, Ohio. Born in northeast. If we are talking Midwest I feel obligated to add input.Ohio could be split into 4 sections. Some being very very shitty and some being pretty decent. Northeast being the best due to it being the least hillbilly while also not being completely flat- good proximity to northeast states. South East Ohio is basically West Virginia hill billy af. I lived there for a year and it is trash as fuck; so poor, so much drugs, nothing to do, but outdoors is decent. Northwest Ohio, also lived there, is boring and flat af. It's basically Indiana sponsored by Walmart. There's nothing great about northwest Ohio unless you're a human trafficker. Miles and miles of flat boring fucking farmland- such a bad drive. Southwest Ohio, you have Cinci and Dayton. Not bad for a weekend or night with some good breweries and bar scenes but I personally just wouldn't live there.
In terms of cities, they've really stepped up their game the past few years in terms of infrastructure, food, and bars in Cleveland and Columbus. Cleveland is probably my favorite and very underrated. If you're not having fun, it's probably because you're doing something wrong or going to college or dive bars. Dive bars are plentiful but also avoidable. Columbus on the other hand has a fantastic quality bar scene with a good amount of quality breweries and tons of good restaurants. Places to avoid but also too many good ones to choose in a single night. Also HUGE gay scene, like humungo now so that attracts a lot of people. Columbus and somewhat Cleveland is experiencing an outrageous population boom of young adults which is rapidly changing its landscape. If you haven't been to either in the past 3 years, then I could see why some may say they suck.
In terms of outdoors, even though SE Ohio is much more wilderness, I'd have to say NE is better and really helps keep Ohio from being just another boring flat state with a big city. Cleveland metro area has one of the best metropark systems around that links with Akron and Canton. Columbus quite sucks for outdoors. Flat af. Metroparks are flat and paved. Any semi hilly places require driving and mtn biking is mediocre.
It sounds a lot like I'm defending my home state. Well let me tell you there's qualities I like about Ohio, but I do not want to live here my whole life. Biggest comolaint: It's too far from the shit I like to do, skiing especially. Shittiest state though? Far from it.
I agree on WV being great for outdoors but other than that, it's so poor and trashy it's unfathomable.
Ohio is literally the worst state in the Midwest
Sep 23 2019 12:38PM
Sep 23 2019 12:48PM
SendyMcSendyfaceProvince, not a state, but Ontario. Holy fuck it sucks balls. Its super flat, biggest ski hill has maybe 700' vert, and its like a 3 hr drive from where I live. Also, the entire population of Toronto goes there. Southern Ontario is thousands of square miles of suburbs. Most people here are assholes, and everyone drives worse than I've seen anywhere else, even California. If you want to get into the woods, you gotta drive at least 4 hrs north, usually 5+ if you want to really get away. North Ontario is lakes, trees and swamps, and it all looks the same. Even shooting guns here is a pain. Public land is 4hrs north, all the ranges are private, with ridiculous membership fees, and year long waiting lists. 5 weeks until I'm outta here.
Eh, Saskatchewan and Manitoba are worse my dude. Northern Ontario is super tight, massive parks and great hiking/camping. The only problem is to get there from the south its at least a 9 hour drive.
But ya, shit driver's, can't fault you there.
Sep 23 2019 1:46PM
DeebieSkeebiesPoor is poor no matter the area so thats really not a fair judgement imo.Being from the midwest myself (Michigan), id say some of those states including small towns in the midwest are loveable shitholes that you can't wait to leave and anyone who doesn't is destined to a life of going to the same bar every night after work and drinking their lives away.
OP did not say US State and booze may be one way to measure. Based on @_GHOST I figured NZ would be way up there in consumption and in a way they are. Annual consumption in NZ is 14.3 liters/person compared to 11.28 in Wisconsin. If you have ever been to Wisco you know . ND actually does consume more at 12.34l / person.
The shocker is that there are a number of places where people consume over twice as much as they do in NZ. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption_per_capita 36.6 liters/person in Tunisia , how do these people even survive? S. Africa is also way up there. @theabortionator for Lesotho it says 28.2 liters/person a year is this possible?
Sep 23 2019 4:33PM
BdoobzEh, Saskatchewan and Manitoba are worse my dude. Northern Ontario is super tight, massive parks and great hiking/camping. The only problem is to get there from the south its at least a 9 hour drive.But ya, shit driver's, can't fault you there.
Northern Ontario is pretty much a separate province. They should just split it in to two, above Sudbury, and below Sudbury. The massive drive to do anything outdoors really kills it for me. Nothing to do down here unless you like meth, and stealing bikes.
Sep 23 2019 5:59PM
Sep 23 2019 9:42PM
OregonDeadOP did not say US State and booze may be one way to measure. Based on @_GHOST[/tag] I figured NZ would be way up there in consumption and in a way they are. Annual consumption in NZ is 14.3 liters/person compared to 11.28 in Wisconsin. If you have ever been to Wisco you know . ND actually does consume more at 12.34l / person.The shocker is that there are a number of places where people consume over twice as much as they do in NZ. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption_per_capita 36.6 liters/person in Tunisia , how do these people even survive? S. Africa is also way up there. @theabortionator[/tag] for Lesotho it says 28.2 liters/person a year is this possible?
That's a tough one to meassure as some people don't drink. I guess that's all part of getting the big picture but still.
I don't remember seeing a huge drinking culture in Lesotho but totally possible. You do see people with several cases on their trucks regularly.
Where we lived was lawless as fuck and liver ruining but it was it's own world.
Idk it's been a minute since I've been to NZ but didn't seem to drink anymore than most places in the states. Aus drinks even less from what I've experienced.
I think what people consider a lot in the states is pretty high compared to other places.
Sep 24 2019 12:47AM
Nevada is actually booty
when most of us go to Las Vegas we go to the strip nowhere else in the city... and for good reason. The rest of the city pretty much sucks.. crime is rampant there is literally nothing else that is remotely exciting.. it’s basically like a giant suburbia.. it’s depressing alcoholism and reminiscent of days past. The rest of the state is literally Nothing.. Nothing but desert. I know a lot of you will mention Reno because it’s proximity to skiing but be honest Reno ain’t shit!!
Also AZ sucks too, it’s the same thing..
Phoenix is literally a giant conglomerate of suburbs.. it’s not exciting at all, the night life is extremely terrible compared to other cities it’s size and even smaller (Portland for example is more exciting..) AZ is also depressing the type of place that people get stuck.. there’s extremely low wages but there is an abundance of jobs.. that is of course If you are a psycho and can tolerate the oven like weather. (Thanks but No thanks)
Sep 24 2019 1:15AM
Sep 24 2019 2:29AM
SegsxiNevada is actually bootywhen most of us go to Las Vegas we go to the strip nowhere else in the city... and for good reason. The rest of the city pretty much sucks.. crime is rampant there is literally nothing else that is remotely exciting.. it’s basically like a giant suburbia.. it’s depressing alcoholism and reminiscent of days past. The rest of the state is literally Nothing.. Nothing but desert. I know a lot of you will mention Reno because it’s proximity to skiing but be honest Reno ain’t shit!!
Also AZ sucks too, it’s the same thing..
Phoenix is literally a giant conglomerate of suburbs.. it’s not exciting at all, the night life is extremely terrible compared to other cities it’s size and even smaller (Portland for example is more exciting..) AZ is also depressing the type of place that people get stuck.. there’s extremely low wages but there is an abundance of jobs.. that is of course If you are a psycho and can tolerate the oven like weather. (Thanks but No thanks)
ur wrong about NV
Sep 27 2019 10:29PM
SegsxiNevada is actually bootywhen most of us go to Las Vegas we go to the strip nowhere else in the city... and for good reason. The rest of the city pretty much sucks.. crime is rampant there is literally nothing else that is remotely exciting.. it’s basically like a giant suburbia.. it’s depressing alcoholism and reminiscent of days past. The rest of the state is literally Nothing.. Nothing but desert. I know a lot of you will mention Reno because it’s proximity to skiing but be honest Reno ain’t shit!!
Also AZ sucks too, it’s the same thing..
Phoenix is literally a giant conglomerate of suburbs.. it’s not exciting at all, the night life is extremely terrible compared to other cities it’s size and even smaller (Portland for example is more exciting..) AZ is also depressing the type of place that people get stuck.. there’s extremely low wages but there is an abundance of jobs.. that is of course If you are a psycho and can tolerate the oven like weather. (Thanks but No thanks)
Aye bruh u got area 51 you already know they got the drip™️😪😪
Sep 28 2019 12:48AM
SegsxiNevada is actually bootywhen most of us go to Las Vegas we go to the strip nowhere else in the city... and for good reason. The rest of the city pretty much sucks.. crime is rampant there is literally nothing else that is remotely exciting.. it’s basically like a giant suburbia.. it’s depressing alcoholism and reminiscent of days past. The rest of the state is literally Nothing.. Nothing but desert. I know a lot of you will mention Reno because it’s proximity to skiing but be honest Reno ain’t shit!!
Also AZ sucks too, it’s the same thing..
Phoenix is literally a giant conglomerate of suburbs.. it’s not exciting at all, the night life is extremely terrible compared to other cities it’s size and even smaller (Portland for example is more exciting..) AZ is also depressing the type of place that people get stuck.. there’s extremely low wages but there is an abundance of jobs.. that is of course If you are a psycho and can tolerate the oven like weather. (Thanks but No thanks)
I'm not sure why everyone in Phoenix describes Phoenix as "Arizona", but they do. A huge portion of Arizona is forest and 7000' elevations, canyon, creeks, etc. Phoenix is great for some things, meh for others. Definitely not an "it has it all" city/state but not even close to mentionable on a list of the worst states. Not awesome as a skier though, that's for sure.
Sep 28 2019 2:34AM
Sep 28 2019 12:36PM
SendyMcSendyfaceProvince, not a state, but Ontario. Holy fuck it sucks balls. Its super flat, biggest ski hill has maybe 700' vert, and its like a 3 hr drive from where I live. Also, the entire population of Toronto goes there. Southern Ontario is thousands of square miles of suburbs. Most people here are assholes, and everyone drives worse than I've seen anywhere else, even California. If you want to get into the woods, you gotta drive at least 4 hrs north, usually 5+ if you want to really get away. North Ontario is lakes, trees and swamps, and it all looks the same. Even shooting guns here is a pain. Public land is 4hrs north, all the ranges are private, with ridiculous membership fees, and year long waiting lists. 5 weeks until I'm outta here.
Well said. London Ontario boy here.
Sep 28 2019 1:03PM