Been skiing Icelantic off and on for years now and have to say that the Nomad 105 is worth it. That ski can do just about everything from dropping cliffs to floating to skiing the hard stuff. Would recommend it for sure.

Thanks!

ON3P Kartel 108. Fits everything u described perfectly and will last you forever

Thanks bro! Those look perfect! Unfortunately they won’t fit me, but hopefully next year they’ll work!

tyler1719Been skiing Icelantic off and on for years now and have to say that the Nomad 105 is worth it. That ski can do just about everything from dropping cliffs to floating to skiing the hard stuff. Would recommend it for sure.

Normally I'd agree with this 100% but OP is looking for a stiffer ski than the bacons and the Nomad 105s are a little softer than what he's looking for.

I second the Kartel 108 but also the Sego Big Horn 106s look to be a cool ski as well so they might be worth a checkout.

ZypherNormally I'd agree with this 100% but OP is looking for a stiffer ski than the bacons and the Nomad 105s are a little softer than what he's looking for. I second the Kartel 108 but also the Sego Big Horn 106s look to be a cool ski as well so they might be worth a checkout.

Fair, didn't see that part of the posting

Those will be too big as well. I’ll definitely be looking into them for next year but I’m a pretty small dude so I need something around a 160 length.

HenrybigmountainThose will be too big as well. I’ll definitely be looking into them for next year but I’m a pretty small dude so I need something around a 160 length.

look at on3p jesse 108/98

Just checked those out. They look pretty sweet! Do u know how they do in hard pack conditions? My main resort is winter park and we haven’t gotten very much snow this year so I need a ski that with still be stable in hard pack/croud.

HenrybigmountainJust checked those out. They look pretty sweet! Do u know how they do in hard pack conditions? My main resort is winter park and we haven’t gotten very much snow this year so I need a ski that with still be stable in hard pack/croud.

If you don't plan on ripping too much deep snow then the 98s will be awesome. Both the Kartel 98 and Jessie 98 will rip hard pack up and give you enough rocker to ride the soft stuff when it comes down.

The kartel and Jessie are pretty much identical skis in terms of dimensions, it just comes down to weight and turn radius in the end. Both will get the job done tho and the Jessie is cool because it comes in a 166 if you think you're between sizes.

I’m on a 107 underfoot right now and it rips pretty hard, it’s just really soft and not as stable. I’d probably still go with the 108’s because I’m so used to skiing a fatter ski. Are there any differences in stiffness and rocker between the 108’s and the 98’s?

HenrybigmountainThose will be too big as well. I’ll definitely be looking into them for next year but I’m a pretty small dude so I need something around a 160 length.

Not trying to be a dick or anything op, but select the arrow at the bottom right of quotes you are specifically responding to. That will quote the post so the person gets an alert and people know what u r referencing

HenrybigmountainJust checked those out. They look pretty sweet! Do u know how they do in hard pack conditions? My main resort is winter park and we haven’t gotten very much snow this year so I need a ski that with still be stable in hard pack/croud.

Based on the fact that as far as I know Jessie's are similar to Kartel's, I think they would be very solid on hardpack. I'm a former racer and have no problem carving. They are also very stable and will be much less likely to get bucked than the Bacon's or Nomads when conditions get hard or rough

highpeakNot trying to be a dick or anything op, but select the arrow at the bottom right of quotes you are specifically responding to. That will quote the post so the person gets an alert and people know what u r referencing

Oh ok. Thanks!

highpeakBased on the fact that as far as I know Jessie's are similar to Kartel's, I think they would be very solid on hardpack. I'm a former racer and have no problem carving. They are also very stable and will be much less likely to get bucked than the Bacon's or Nomads when conditions get hard or rough

Sounds good! Thanks for all the help!!

HenrybigmountainI’m on a 107 underfoot right now and it rips pretty hard, it’s just really soft and not as stable. I’d probably still go with the 108’s because I’m so used to skiing a fatter ski. Are there any differences in stiffness and rocker between the 108’s and the 98’s?

According to the ON3P website, the K98 has a 6-7-6 flex and the K108 a 7-8-7, so the K98 will probably be a little softer. If you really want the best responses, just call up ON3P. Their owner often answers the phone and they have awesome customer service. Just tell them what you are looking for and your questions and they can set you up. The owner Scott (iggyskier on newschoolers) might even end up replying to your questions on this thread too.

highpeakAccording to the ON3P website, the K98 has a 6-7-6 flex and the K108 a 7-8-7, so the K98 will probably be a little softer. If you really want the best responses, just call up ON3P. Their owner often answers the phone and they have awesome customer service. Just tell them what you are looking for and your questions and they can set you up. The owner Scott (iggyskier on newschoolers) might even end up replying to your questions on this thread too.

Ok thanks! I’ll call them

ZypherNormally I'd agree with this 100% but OP is looking for a stiffer ski than the bacons and the Nomad 105s are a little softer than what he's looking for.

I second the Kartel 108 but also the Sego Big Horn 106s look to be a cool ski as well so they might be worth a checkout.

At 13 years old do you think he would really need a stiffer ski than the nomad?

Cole9At 13 years old do you think he would really need a stiffer ski than the nomad?

Depends, I have no idea what his height and weight are so he could probably get away with the nomads if he is a lanky lightweight but if he has any meat on his bones and is above 5'5 then id say shy away from the nomads if you're looking at big mtn. From my experience, the Nomads felt pretty noodley and didn't perform all that well in anything tracked up. Not saying they arent a fun ski by any means, I actually want a pair of the 115s, but If hes looking for a ski that gives stability in crud and is stiffer than the Bacons then the Nomads don't fit the bill.

ZypherDepends, I have no idea what his height and weight are so he could probably get away with the nomads if he is a lanky lightweight but if he has any meat on his bones and is above 5'5 then id say shy away from the nomads if you're looking at big mtn. From my experience, the Nomads felt pretty noodley and didn't perform all that well in anything tracked up. Not saying they arent a fun ski by any means, I actually want a pair of the 115s, but If hes looking for a ski that gives stability in crud and is stiffer than the Bacons then the Nomads don't fit the bill.

I agree with that I ski the 191s from 2015 and I’m 140lbs I think they must have been stiffer back then or I’m just really light

Cole9I agree with that I ski the 191s from 2015 and I’m 140lbs I think they must have been stiffer back then or I’m just really light

Ah yeah, you’re on the 191s and since they’re a longer, more progressive flexed platform the ski seems to have a stiffer flex. If you can imagine the flex points on the 191s, reimagine them downsized to a 171. That means all the pivot points are just that much closer to the boot center making the ski a little more squirrely in chunder and such. If OP was 17-18 and done growing I’d push him to get a pair of bigger skis like that and then he’d have more options because the larger the ski is, the more weight it has and the more spread out the flex points are.

ZypherAh yeah, you’re on the 191s and since they’re a longer, more progressive flexed platform the ski seems to have a stiffer flex. If you can imagine the flex points on the 191s, reimagine them downsized to a 171. That means all the pivot points are just that much closer to the boot center making the ski a little more squirrely in chunder and such. If OP was 17-18 and done growing I’d push him to get a pair of bigger skis like that and then he’d have more options because the larger the ski is, the more weight it has and the more spread out the flex points are.

Good point I totally see where your coming from now

Do any of y’all tried the ON3P skis? If so, do get work good in big mountain?

HenrybigmountainDo any of y’all tried the ON3P skis? If so, do get work good in big mountain?

I’ve been looking at the Jessie 108

HenrybigmountainDo any of y’all tried the ON3P skis? If so, do get work good in big mountain?

I have the Kartel 108. Works awesome for big mountain. Because your only 13, I would suggest the Kartel 98 or Jesse 108. Both should be easier to handle. Just call ON3P, tell them how u ski and what u want in a ski, and they will get you squared away

highpeakI have the Kartel 108. Works awesome for big mountain. Because your only 13, I would suggest the Kartel 98 or Jesse 108. Both should be easier to handle. Just call ON3P, tell them how u ski and what u want in a ski, and they will get you squared away

Ok cool. I’ve been looking at the Jessie 108’s cuz I’m rly short and they make a 161 :). I’ll call ON3P and see what they have to say, but it looks like a great ski! Do u use it for big mountain free riding?

HenrybigmountainOk cool. I’ve been looking at the Jessie 108’s cuz I’m rly short and they make a 161 :). I’ll call ON3P and see what they have to say, but it looks like a great ski! Do u use it for big mountain free riding?

Yeah I live in New England and do the Ski the East Freeride Tour. I've also skied in utah/Canada with them like 5 times and they have been awesome. Highly suggest any ON3P

highpeakYeah I live in New England and do the Ski the East Freeride Tour. I've also skied in utah/Canada with them like 5 times and they have been awesome. Highly suggest any ON3P

Ok thanks! I think I’m gonna give them a try.