Question on the Kartel 98 vs PB&J

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Dec 27 2017 4:22PM

Got some info from the forum a few weeks ago and was able to get on a pair of Kartel 98’s. Pretty awesome ski. Coming from the 2010 Gotama and 2013 Chronic, it was a very different feeling. At 33 it seems my park days are behind me, and I’m curious to see if the PB&J would serve me as a better all mountain ski for east coast (and occasional non deep day out west).

I’m 5’8” 150 and used the 176 Kartel. Felt great but oddly enough felt pretty short. The PB&J 182 would most likely be the only size I’d look at. I’m ordering this week, so figured I’d gather any other intel before doing so. No lucky finding a demo PB&J in my neck of the woods. Cheers

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frekalicious

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Dec 28 2017 9:20AM

I actually ordered a pair of Pb&J's and ended up sending them back and got a pair of Jessie 98's instead (which is the same as the kartel) I love how flexy and versatile the ON3P is in comparison to the PB&J. granted I did not ride the PB&J the flex pattern alone was so stiff Im conifdent I made the right choice. I also ski very little park, and my other daily driver at my midwest resort is a pair of '14 chronics. for what its worth I love the ON3P's

just my 2 cents lol

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PepperoniPrince

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Dec 28 2017 12:11PM

frekaliciousI actually ordered a pair of Pb&J's and ended up sending them back and got a pair of Jessie 98's instead (which is the same as the kartel) I love how flexy and versatile the ON3P is in comparison to the PB&J. granted I did not ride the PB&J the flex pattern alone was so stiff Im conifdent I made the right choice. I also ski very little park, and my other daily driver at my midwest resort is a pair of '14 chronics. for what its worth I love the ON3P's

just my 2 cents lol

Right on. Thanks for the response, and it certainly helps with my decision.

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tcurle

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Dec 28 2017 10:24PM

If it isn't a pow day out west I'm most likely on the PBJ 182. Like the comment said above me, they do have a stiffer core compared to an ON3P bamboo core. My cousin has a pair and he also rides out East. He's a race coach and uses the PBJ as his his all mtn ski. So maybe there's somewhat of a comparison there.

Before you buy, check out Blister for some in depth review on both skis. It takes a couple minutes to read but it's worth it.

http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/3rd-look-moment-pbj

**This post was edited on Dec 28th 2017 at 10:25:11pm

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sheddd

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Mar 2 2019 11:32AM

Just got back from Breckenridge and got 2 days to try my new 188 PB&J's (I'm 175lb big legs); My first rockered ski! Sticking to windblown crap pretty good here :) : https://youtu.be/5qG6wVXJP1A?t=333

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