I was looking into getting either some Moment Vices or PB&Js for next season and had a few questions. I ski in Michigan mostly, but make a few trips out west each year. How will they ski the mashed potato snow here in MI and how will they ski the spring season slush out west? How playful are they? I've read some stuff about how they are on the stiffer side but the rockers balance that out. Thanks in advance.
Apr 19 2017 9:51AM
PBJs are stiff. They like higher speeds. They are playful because of the rocker profile, in the sense that they will change direction quickly. However they are not super "poppy" like other skis in this category. In order to jib them, they need speed and/or the fall line.
Its an advanced/expert all mountain jib ski, amazing for flipping and spinning all mountain @ 40mph. There are other skis out there that are more engaging and fun if you plan on jibbing a bunch.
Apr 19 2017 9:52AM
I had Vices last year. They were my favorite park skis ever, but the durability wasn't too hot. With that being said, I also beat the shit out of them because I was skiing the east coast all season and we had the shittiest conditions in our resort's history. I often found myself skiing over patches of mud, grass, and rocks. I prefer super skinny skis for park, and they worked like a charm. They are pretty stiff, but I didn't mind because like you said the rocker balances it out. They look dope too
Apr 19 2017 10:06AM
DIRTYBUBBLEI had Vices last year. They were my favorite park skis ever, but the durability wasn't too hot. With that being said, I also beat the shit out of them because I was skiing the east coast all season and we had the shittiest conditions in our resort's history. I often found myself skiing over patches of mud, grass, and rocks. I prefer super skinny skis for park, and they worked like a charm. They are pretty stiff, but I didn't mind because like you said the rocker balances it out. They look dope too
The vices are a fun ski. Light and playful and pretty flexy. My only problem with them is that they dont like to grip on jumps that are a little hard. After about 25 days they just did not want to grip anything. I tried sharpening infront of and behind the toe and heel piece but it didnt work. after rail abuse the edges dull underoot and the rocker makes it pretty hard to ski.
Apr 19 2017 8:10PM
definetly would recomend them. My friend rode Vices and loved them plus now have cap construction which makes them more durable and cheaper. I rode PB&J's for a while and loved them, they where a fun ski for ripping around and where a blast in the park (which is what I hit about 90% of the time living in MN) plus 101 underfoot with mustache rocker pretty much let me ski them anywhere in any conditions.