Quick story, 2 of my friends and I got bought brand new setups this year, and we have had tons of problems, I've broken more than 10 buckles on my boots, my other friends liner tongue ripped off his boot, and my last friend was out today skiing only groomers just to find a major part of his base peeling up from a manufacture error, has the quality of gear declined? Or have we just had tons of bad luck?
Shoey-SkiI've broken more than 10 buckles on my boots, my other friends liner tongue ripped off his boot
1. So 11 buckles at least?? The fuck kind of boots are you wearing?
2. Idk if you know what a liner is, but it tends to be inside a plastic shell. It's impossible for to to "rip off" anything because (a) it's not connected to anything and (b) it's inside something else. Meaning that, if anything, it would have to rip "out" of the shell (this still doesn't make sense because it's not connected to it).
Have you looked at the way you're treating your gear in the off season??? The liner and the bases of the skis may be due to incorrect storage
Deforestation1. So 11 buckles at least?? The fuck kind of boots are you wearing?2. Idk if you know what a liner is, but it tends to be inside a plastic shell. It's impossible for to to "rip off" anything because (a) it's not connected to anything and (b) it's inside something else. Meaning that, if anything, it would have to rip "out" of the shell (this still doesn't make sense because it's not connected to it).
I ride descendant 4s they are really crappy as far as durability goes and idk if you are familiar with ski boots at all but with a basic tongue liner if you were to take It out of your boots you would see the tongue moves freely from the rest of the liner and his ripped out
Also forgot to add that another one of my friends broke 2 sets of brakes
S.J.WHave you looked at the way you're treating your gear in the off season??? The liner and the bases of the skis may be due to incorrect storage
All of our stuff was brand new at the beginning of the season haha, summer jobs are great
the moral of this story is no. Full tilt has always been and will continue to be shit. Ive got a few negative things to say about K2's boots as well, even though their liners are sourced through intuition
probably stems from improper/poor treatment of gear. take care of your stuff and it'll last you for a nice while. Ski gear is probably the best its ever been right now, we are all damn fortunate to be able to have access to some of this stuff.
DeebieSkeebiesprobably stems from improper/poor treatment of gear. take care of your stuff and it'll last you for a nice while. Ski gear is probably the best its ever been right now, we are all damn fortunate to be able to have access to some of this stuff.
I keep great care of my stuff, I take the liners out of my boots and every time I ski, I also wipe my skis dry, and store them inside
if you're breaking your shit, you should get better shit. It's out there.
Why take your liners out? Youre adding stress on them bc they rub on the shell and can destroy the stiching leading to issues like youre having. Do you put the liners on your feet then drop them into the shells?
Shoey-SkiI ride descendant 4s they are really crappy as far as durability goes and idk if you are familiar with ski boots at all but with a basic tongue liner if you were to take It out of your boots you would see the tongue moves freely from the rest of the liner and his ripped outAlso forgot to add that another one of my friends broke 2 sets of brakes
Perhaps there was a mistake with how the liner tongue got stitched to the main body of the liner? They are stitched together by hand, so that can be a blessing or a curse...
In the future, don't pull up on your tongue to step in. Move it forward out of the way (yes) but open it sort of to the side and your foot will slide in much easier.
japanadaWhy take your liners out? Youre adding stress on them bc they rub on the shell and can destroy the stiching leading to issues like youre having. Do you put the liners on your feet then drop them into the shells?
I take mine out to dry, my friend (the one who ripped his) never takes his out
Shoey-SkiI take mine out to dry, my friend (the one who ripped his) never takes his out
He needs to stop pulling straight up on the liner when he puts it on and off like onenerdykid said.
japanadaWhy take your liners out? Youre adding stress on them bc they rub on the shell and can destroy the stiching leading to issues like youre having. Do you put the liners on your feet then drop them into the shells?
I always take my liners out so they will dry and not grow mold. Not to mention when skiing multiple days in a row, if you don't take the liners out to dry, they'll still be wet and give you cold feet.
I guess moral of the story is, just be careful with your gear.
shin-bangI always take my liners out so they will dry and not grow mold. Not to mention when skiing multiple days in a row, if you don't take the liners out to dry, they'll still be wet and give you cold feet.I guess moral of the story is, just be careful with your gear.
Boot dryers FTMFW
japanadaBoot dryers FTMFW
Yes but taking the liners out helps boots dry faster on the dryer. It will also put a lot less weight and stress on the boot dryer. My wife totally snapped her last boot dryer because she was always putting her whole boot on there which made it top heavy so it was always falling over.
japanadaBoot dryers FTMFW
That's what I was talking about, I take the liners out and but them on my dryer. If I had the shells on they wouldn't even come close to fitting on the dryer. I'm glad a I have a dryer, it's saved my feet tons
shin-bangThat's what I was talking about, I take the liners out and but them on my dryer. If I had the shells on they wouldn't even come close to fitting on the dryer. I'm glad a I have a dryer, it's saved my feet tons
Same here, boot dryers save lives haha actually I guess they only save wet feet, anyways they are essential for skiing multiple days in a row