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I'm currently on an archeology track- but there are zero jobs for that.
Tell me what to do.
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Asking NSG because obviously you all know best.
I'm currently on an archeology track- but there are zero jobs for that.
Tell me what to do.
I hear casting couch has some great benefits
Is archaeology what you love? If it's yes, then get your degree in it. It's a damn fine bet you won't go on to work in a profession that has to do with your degree. Not because of a lack of jobs in it necessarily, that's just what usually happens. So what do you do? Bail on what you love and plan on a life of misery as an accountant? No. Study what you love, but plan smart. Keep working hard to have a career in archaeology. If you succeed, bomb-diggity you get paid to do something you love. But in the meantime, work in some jobs that build up your experience where you might be marketable from a skills level.
Few people walk out of college with a career because of the degree the got.
CaptainObvious.Is archaeology what you love? If it's yes, then get your degree in it. It's a damn fine bet you won't go on to work in a profession that has to do with your degree. Not because of a lack of jobs in it necessarily, that's just what usually happens. So what do you do? Bail on what you love and plan on a life of misery as an accountant? No. Study what you love, but plan smart. Keep working hard to have a career in archaeology. If you succeed, bomb-diggity you get paid to do something you love. But in the meantime, work in some jobs that build up your experience where you might be marketable from a skills level.Few people walk out of college with a career because of the degree the got.
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How close are you? Might be worth it to just finish up your Bachelor's degree if you are close. A lot of jobs won't really care what you majored in. Heck I majored in Philosophy and I can still afford my ski addiction.
CaptainObvious.Is archaeology what you love? If it's yes, then get your degree in it. It's a damn fine bet you won't go on to work in a profession that has to do with your degree. Not because of a lack of jobs in it necessarily, that's just what usually happens. So what do you do? Bail on what you love and plan on a life of misery as an accountant? No. Study what you love, but plan smart. Keep working hard to have a career in archaeology. If you succeed, bomb-diggity you get paid to do something you love. But in the meantime, work in some jobs that build up your experience where you might be marketable from a skills level.Few people walk out of college with a career because of the degree the got.
I mean, I love the opportunities, and digging in the dirt. Archaeology is what calls to me, and I'm surprisingly good at it. I'm doing a brief field school in Ireland this summer, but after that I'm not sure. I don't know if I want to continue with school or not.
I want to say do what you like (and if archaeology is that, then do it), but at the same time, archaeology was on the top 10 list of "least valuable college majors" by Forbes as recent graduates have an unemployment rate of 10.5% and median salary of $28,000 (including people with jobs outside of their major/projected field).
Money isn't everything, but it is necessary to an extent.
don't waste yr $$ on something you're not sold on
DeforestationI want to say do what you like (and if archaeology is that, then do it), but at the same time, archaeology was on the top 10 list of "least valuable college majors" by Forbes as recent graduates have an unemployment rate of 10.5% and median salary of $28,000 (including people with jobs outside of their major/projected field).Money isn't everything, but it is necessary to an extent.
In regards to income, I have a stable, reliable source that yearly makes more than the average intro archeology job. Money isn't too much of a concern.
safarisamI mean, I love the opportunities, and digging in the dirt. Archaeology is what calls to me, and I'm surprisingly good at it. I'm doing a brief field school in Ireland this summer, but after that I'm not sure. I don't know if I want to continue with school or not.
It's just an opinion, but mine is that the question of continuing with school is a no-brainer. Especially since you've already put in time. Just finish it out, get your bachelors, and go from there.
Also, be wary of statistics, because like I said earlier, virtually no one gets a career in what they major in. I'm pretty sure Forbes puts an English degree as like the number three most worthless piece of shit behind philosophy and psychology, but I'd like to think I'm doing just fine.
CaptainObvious.It's just an opinion, but mine is that the question of continuing with school is a no-brainer. Especially since you've already put in time. Just finish it out, get your bachelors, and go from there.Also, be wary of statistics, because like I said earlier, virtually no one gets a career in what they major in. I'm pretty sure Forbes puts an English degree as like the number three most worthless piece of shit behind philosophy and psychology, but I'd like to think I'm doing just fine.
School is a bummer. I know I should push thru it (especially being SO CLOSE) to being done. I might take another semester off & ensure I have my shit together.
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I took a geology class last semester on the geology of yellowstone! Too much math for me though.
more school never really hurts. is the job you already have not in archeology? and what level of degree are you currently trying to get?
safarisamI took a geology class last semester on the geology of yellowstone! Too much math for me though.
I might be switching my major to geology but that's the problem... I'm terrible at math.
Peter.more school never really hurts. is the job you already have not in archeology? and what level of degree are you currently trying to get?
I own land & farm it, it's far from archeology but friends occasionally find artifacts in surrounding fields & help survey them.
.Rybak.I might be switching my major to geology but that's the problem... I'm terrible at math.
My old roommate is majoring in it & she loves it, says it's a lot of work though!
My .02 from the sketchy kid who likes sleeping in his car way too much.
Finish up that major, just to be done with school, and have a degree. If you have a stable income then use that to enable you to pursue what you love. If that's archeology, great! It sounds like you are in a place where you can begin to create your own opportunities, and shape a career/life that's a lot more rewarding than just trying to scrape by.
Keep that in mind. You have the options and potential to accomplish whatever you desire, it's just figuring out what you actually want to do, and then staying motivated that's the hard part.
gnar_whalI hear casting couch has some great benefits
Good health insurance I hear.
i dont know how anyone is asking this question..
mmj grow in RI and MA selling your overages to patients is like 60g's a year minumum. just watching plants grow and reading up on cultivation.. cant even imagine the money to be made out west
killabeesi dont know how anyone is asking this question..mmj grow in RI and MA selling your overages to patients is like 60g's a year minumum. just watching plants grow and reading up on cultivation.. cant even imagine the money to be made out west
Lol. Farming is not just watching plants grow and reading up on cultivation. Farming anything is hard work (lots of manual labor) and involves a lot of risk with potentially volatile prices. Definitely the potential to make money farming any commercially viable crop whether it is Grass seed or Cannabis or Christmas Trees or whatever but it is all hard work.
safarisamI took a geology class last semester on the geology of yellowstone! Too much math for me though.
I just love the word geode. GEEEEEOOOOOOOODDDE. yay!
get a BA in business, get your MBA and money will be shitting out of your asshole. Quantities may vary depending on company your work for.
Get done with school? take up a trades. Too lousy for that? join the army. No discipline? become a ski bum journalist.
safarisamIn regards to income, I have a stable, reliable source that yearly makes more than the average intro archeology job. Money isn't too much of a concern.
If you have this why are you starting a thread on what to do you clearly have an advantage over most everyone your age who has real problems about how to pay their bills and eat? Do you wanna rub it in or something?
You also said you have a passion for your major yet are crying on here about not knowing what you want to do...most people in boring majors would love any opportunity to remain connected to them. I want to be a historian but it would lead to poverty so its not reasonable. History HS jobs were unavailable, Im not good enough to write a book, and a PHD in that field isn't something I can afford. My brother graduated from Cambridge in England with a history degree and could have actually hacked it in this field but he wimped out because of his horrible wife and the pressure to be all corporate.
The fact you could actually stay in that field is unique (and I doubt any of your peers have that ability) and you are still bitching on here?
(If a blue name your age posted a thread like this and asked this question and made a comment like that about money not being an issue the downvotes would be in the hundreds BTW u know noone else could post shit like this and get away with it...)
Im sorry but from the posts Im pretty sure that nothing you do will make you happy no matter how good it is and you'll constantly feel the need to complain and aspire to something else. So maybe identify that, realize its immature, and then try and regain your passion for your major which you say you like and are enthusiastic about. Or volunteer doing something you are entusiastic about while you are a college student and guess what when you finish there will probably be a paycheck and a job in it. Or pop out some kids and be a full time mom and you will have plenty to occupy you for the next 20 years.
Now give yourself some credit you know money you likely aren't blowing your up your nose you aren't an idiot financially you probably don't need much and want to spend money you don't have on shit like purses or an obscene car etc etc etc. GL.
PeppermillRenoIf you have this why are you starting a thread on what to do you clearly have an advantage over most everyone your age who has real problems about how to pay their bills and eat? Do you wanna rub it in or something?You also said you have a passion for your major yet are crying on here about not knowing what you want to do...most people in boring majors would love any opportunity to remain connected to them. I want to be a historian but it would lead to poverty so its not reasonable. History HS jobs were unavailable, Im not good enough to write a book, and a PHD in that field isn't something I can afford. My brother graduated from Cambridge in England with a history degree and could have actually hacked it in this field but he wimped out because of his horrible wife and the pressure to be all corporate.
The fact you could actually stay in that field is unique (and I doubt any of your peers have that ability) and you are still bitching on here?
(If a blue name your age posted a thread like this and asked this question and made a comment like that about money not being an issue the downvotes would be in the hundreds BTW u know noone else could post shit like this and get away with it...)
Im sorry but from the posts Im pretty sure that nothing you do will make you happy no matter how good it is and you'll constantly feel the need to complain and aspire to something else. So maybe identify that, realize its immature, and then try and regain your passion for your major which you say you like and are enthusiastic about. Or volunteer doing something you are entusiastic about while you are a college student and guess what when you finish there will probably be a paycheck and a job in it. Or pop out some kids and be a full time mom and you will have plenty to occupy you for the next 20 years.
Now give yourself some credit you know money you likely aren't blowing your up your nose you aren't an idiot financially you probably don't need much and want to spend money you don't have on shit like purses or an obscene car etc etc etc. GL.
I mean, yes, I'm aware I have privileges that give me advantages. It allows for me to pay for school, and for that I'm stoked.
I like my major, but realistically I will never get a job in it, and I want to drop out of school every other week. I thought I wanted to go on to grad school, but that means moving, trying to get accepted (and with my transcrip that's never going to happen) and doing all that just to be in a field with absolutely no jobs.
I had a meeting with a "Success Advisor" yesterday and she told me to be realistic with my career goals. This is me being realistic. I'm scared to graduate next year, and don't think I can do what I love.
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El education and im starting to realize that teaching wont cut it and I probably shouldnt teach kids haha
OregonDeadLol. Farming is not just watching plants grow and reading up on cultivation. Farming anything is hard work (lots of manual labor) and involves a lot of risk with potentially volatile prices. Definitely the potential to make money farming any commercially viable crop whether it is Grass seed or Cannabis or Christmas Trees or whatever but it is all hard work.
well im enjoying every minute of it... donest seem like work to me
safarisamI had a meeting with a "Success Advisor" yesterday and she told me to be realistic with my career goals. This is me being realistic. I'm scared to graduate next year, and don't think I can do what I love.
You might as well had an appointment with the janitor about your career aspirations. You trust this depressed hag, who met you for about an hour, telling you not to be ambitious? Toughen up girl! You are the master of your destiny. Luck will be a huge role in success as much as your perception of success.
Take it from the wise mind of Steve-O: "Nothing is more painful than waking up in the morning and knowing you hate your job [life]. You can put nails through me, I don't care, at least I love my fucking job." Hes right you know, dont get depressed about expectations and fear of failure. Instead, look at an opportunity to make a smooth transition to something you are willing to invest time in money in. In a lot of cases, graduates arent even working in their field; but without that time spent at that location in time, they may have never gotten that position...
Your life doesnt end after college. It took me years to overcome the dread of doom in case of failure. Nothing is the end of the world, we all survive and we all grow from all experiences. Everything will work out, even if its going to be bumpy.
I'm a geologist, you pretty much need a MSc to be competitive these days and know a ton of people. I'm graduated from the top MSc program in the country and still don't have a job.
CaptainObvious.Is archaeology what you love? If it's yes, then get your degree in it. It's a damn fine bet you won't go on to work in a profession that has to do with your degree. Not because of a lack of jobs in it necessarily, that's just what usually happens. So what do you do? Bail on what you love and plan on a life of misery as an accountant? No. Study what you love, but plan smart. Keep working hard to have a career in archaeology. If you succeed, bomb-diggity you get paid to do something you love. But in the meantime, work in some jobs that build up your experience where you might be marketable from a skills level.Few people walk out of college with a career because of the degree the got.
This advice has a tiny bit of truth to it but I would say it's the wrong thing to say to somebody. For this reason you have a bunch of people running around with liberal art degrees and English majors finding out that their degrees were worthless.
There's a balance find something you enjoy doing but at the end of the day work is work and you're not going to be stoked to do it all the time. Do something you enjoy but at the same time be realistic. Sounds like you understand that archaeology is going to get you anywhere. Find something else.
Great, you realized you pick a totally useless major. Thats step number 1.
If I were you..I would look into moving majors in business (accounting, finance, marketing,etc) or engineering. The best majors which are the most versatile and can offer a generous return on your investment in college. Even if it takes an extra year. You don't need to do finance or engineering or wahtever...but you will be able to show employers you are smart and have a marketable degree in whatever field you pursue.
Letting someone else tell you what to do with your own life is perhaps the most foolish things you can do - do what you love, do what you're interested in. Life without money is hard, life without purpose is harder.
safarisamI mean, yes, I'm aware I have privileges that give me advantages. It allows for me to pay for school, and for that I'm stoked.I like my major, but realistically I will never get a job in it, and I want to drop out of school every other week. I thought I wanted to go on to grad school, but that means moving, trying to get accepted (and with my transcrip that's never going to happen) and doing all that just to be in a field with absolutely no jobs.
I had a meeting with a "Success Advisor" yesterday and she told me to be realistic with my career goals. This is me being realistic. I'm scared to graduate next year, and don't think I can do what I love.
I will give you me $.02 that a former coworker told me. You are young, if you are debt free (relatively), take a chance and apply to jobs you want.
The pay may not be great and you may even figure out you hate the line of work. But take the chance. Grad school is not all about your GPA, some schools want work experience. If you can work in a lab and can get published that will help a lot for grad school chances.
If you are close with any of your professors, go and talk to them. See what they did, how they managed to get to where they are. Develop a rapport, go to office hours to talk about what you found interesting, what you were confused about, etc. They teach this stuff because they love it, and I am sure they would be happy to talk to someone who is just as passionate about it, regardless of how smart or dumb you may think you are.
This whole idea that you need to go to University or College to be successful is becoming more and more outdated as each year passes. These days we have things like codeschool, skillshare, lynda and other internet tutorials/educational sites that I would argue provide a much better education than I was ever given in College or University. A lot of the new jobs created in the last 5-10 years require little to no 'official' post secondary education.
You can easily learn enough in 2-3 years online about computer programming to make $50,000+/yr - You just need the dedication and drive to sit down everyday. If I were you, I would just drop out of University right now if you don't think archaeology is what you want to do, take some time off, go travel and get your priorities in line before wasting more of your parents money on a bogus degree.
KazabazuaThis whole idea that you need to go to University or College to be successful is becoming more and more outdated as each year passes. These days we have things like codeschool, skillshare, lynda and other internet tutorials/educational sites that I would argue provide a much better education than I was ever given in College or University. A lot of the new jobs created in the last 5-10 years require little to no 'official' post secondary education.You can easily learn enough in 2-3 years online about computer programming to make $50,000+/yr - You just need the dedication and drive to sit down everyday. If I were you, I would just drop out of University right now if you don't think archaeology is what you want to do, take some time off, go travel and get your priorities in line before wasting more of your parents money on a bogus degree.
Hahahahaha, dude the OP can't handle the math in an intro geology class... And you're suggesting coding and comp science?
Frankly, it sounds like OP doesn't want to pursue anything that takes a good amount of effort. In that case, fall back on the land you have, and go become a privateer archeologist selling shit on the black market.
DeforestationI want to say do what you like (and if archaeology is that, then do it), but at the same time, archaeology was on the top 10 list of "least valuable college majors" by Forbes as recent graduates have an unemployment rate of 10.5% and median salary of $28,000 (including people with jobs outside of their major/projected field).Money isn't everything, but it is necessary to an extent.
When you see your major on that list
californiagrownHahahahaha, dude the OP can't handle the math in an intro geology class... And you're suggesting coding and comp science?Frankly, it sounds like OP doesn't want to pursue anything that takes a good amount of effort. In that case, fall back on the land you have, and go become a privateer archeologist selling shit on the black market.
Probably should have clarified- i've never taken an intro to geology! Only an upper level class. Can do the simple math, but would rather not get into the complex kind required for higher classes.
safarisamProbably should have clarified- i've never taken an intro to geology! Only an upper level class. Can do the simple math, but would rather not get into the complex kind required for higher classes.
The complexity of the math is relative, and the rest of my earlier post still applies.
Hard work is hard. You apparently don't deal well with hard work. Lucky for you, that's just fine because you have steady income to fall back on and can pursue things you like doing regardless of the monetary reward.
Marry a rich dude, do whats fun after that.
KravtZGreat, you realized you pick a totally useless major. Thats step number 1.If I were you..I would look into moving majors in business (accounting, finance, marketing,etc) or engineering. The best majors which are the most versatile and can offer a generous return on your investment in college. Even if it takes an extra year. You don't need to do finance or engineering or wahtever...but you will be able to show employers you are smart and have a marketable degree in whatever field you pursue.
One thing to consider with this is if you shoot for a high-level degree without the intent to pursue that job, you fuck yourself.
To elaborate: my wife got a dual degree mechanical engineering and psychology. When she graduated she had already realized she hated ME and wanted to get a job doing something else. She applied to like 60 or 70 jobs with no luck. Decided to try taking the ME degree off and had offers within a day. If you put in the time for an advanced degree like engineering, you price yourself out of entry jobs that aren't engineering related. People won't even consider you because they think you'll expect more money. True or not.
CaptainObvious.One thing to consider with this is if you shoot for a high-level degree without the intent to pursue that job, you fuck yourself.To elaborate: my wife got a dual degree mechanical engineering and psychology. When she graduated she had already realized she hated ME and wanted to get a job doing something else. She applied to like 60 or 70 jobs with no luck. Decided to try taking the ME degree off and had offers within a day. If you put in the time for an advanced degree like engineering, you price yourself out of entry jobs that aren't engineering related. People won't even consider you because they think you'll expect more money. True or not.
I disagree completely, largely from personal and anecdotal experience. If you have a good set of social skills to go along with that analytical mind you are a very hot commodity.
Then again, maybe your wife was looking for work in a field unrelated to my experiences.
californiagrownI disagree completely, largely from personal and anecdotal experience. If you have a good set of social skills to go along with that analytical mind you are a very hot commodity.Then again, maybe your wife was looking for work in a field unrelated to my experiences.
Just telling you what happened. Do with it what you will, but I've talked to multiple employers who back the findings up.
Social skills don't do shit for you if they ignore your resume.
CaptainObvious.Just telling you what happened. Do with it what you will, but I've talked to multiple employers who back the findings up.Social skills don't do shit for you if they ignore your resume.
If one is just relying on a resume to get a job, I can absolutely see why they would have difficulty haha
In any case, an archeology major will not over qualify OP for anything. She is in a great situation, and I hope she realizes it, and takes advantage of it. Happiness is relative to your "normal", but its a pretty cool situation to be indefinitely financially stable and able to pursue a passion regardless of success.
californiagrownIf one is just relying on a resume to get a job, I can absolutely see why they would have difficulty haha
Have....have you even tried to get a job in the past 5 years? Are you getting your jobs at ski shops and bars? If you're trying to get a grown up job, there is NO method to apply outside of a virtual environment. Like literally none. Your resume is the first line and that's it. Gone are the days of following up with people and making an impression. You actually cannot do it any more for a big-boy job.
CaptainObvious.Have....have you even tried to get a job in the past 5 years? Are you getting your jobs at ski shops and bars? If you're trying to get a grown up job, there is NO method to apply outside of a virtual environment. Like literally none. Your resume is the first line and that's it. Gone are the days of following up with people and making an impression. You actually cannot do it any more for a big-boy job.
Lol. Yes I have a big boy job. And yes I have worked for 3 different firms in the past 4.5 years... All voluntarily switching jobs. What's with the condescending tone?
And lastly yes there is more to it than blindly inserting your resume into the internet machine. Its not too difficult to find the HR contact info and give them a quick call expressing interest, or a quick email doing the same. Contacting folks on LinkedIn is another easy way to express interest. All things I've done, all things that have gotten me interviews...in the past 5 years haha.
Actually LinkedIn is one of the places I have been approached about jobs that are not related to my current career field... The other area is meeting friends and their coworkers/bosses at happy hours/events.
Life is sales. The beauty of not actually working in sales is that you only have to turn it on when you really want something as opposed to 50hrs/wk if you did in fact work in sales :)
californiagrownLol. Yes I have a big boy job. And yes I have worked for 3 different firms in the past 4.5 years... All voluntarily switching jobs. What's with the condescending tone?And lastly yes there is more to it than blindly inserting your resume into the internet machine. Its not too difficult to find the HR contact info and give them a quick call expressing interest, or a quick email doing the same. Contacting folks on LinkedIn is another easy way to express interest. All things I've done, all things that have gotten me interviews...in the past 5 years haha.
Actually LinkedIn is one of the places I have been approached about jobs that are not related to my current career field... The other area is meeting friends and their coworkers/bosses at happy hours/events.
Life is sales. The beauty of not actually working in sales is that you only have to turn it on when you really want something as opposed to 50hrs/wk if you did in fact work in sales :)
I've had completely different responses for the same tactics in IT. Like polar opposite. Not doubting that you've had the same setup, it's just flabbergasting to hear those things work elsewhere. I followed up with HR at a couple of the companies here in Denver and I was told by both recruiters that they are not authorized to forward on any additional information past what was included in your application (Resume, Cover Letter, etc.) A few years back I ended up in a job that I got just by luck of the draw, but I learned about it from a contact that I had met up with for drinks. He said he'd put in a word for me, gave me a heads up about the job, etc. However, when I went to interview and dropped the guy's name, neither the hiring manager nor the recruiter knew who I was talking about.
I've had a few recruiters reach out to me via Linkedin, but I've not been searching when it happened. I have tried contacting the recruiter or the hiring manager on LinkedIn, but always receive frosty responses or canned responses. "We're currently evaluating multiple candidates. We will notify you if you have been selected to move forward with the interview process."
I was actually just chatting with another developer as a result of this thread and they said the same thing I did. I don't know if it's an IT thing, but in general I've gotten the cold shoulder until they look at your resume.
CaptainObvious.I've had completely different responses for the same tactics in IT. Like polar opposite. Not doubting that you've had the same setup, it's just flabbergasting to hear those things work elsewhere. I followed up with HR at a couple of the companies here in Denver and I was told by both recruiters that they are not authorized to forward on any additional information past what was included in your application (Resume, Cover Letter, etc.) A few years back I ended up in a job that I got just by luck of the draw, but I learned about it from a contact that I had met up with for drinks. He said he'd put in a word for me, gave me a heads up about the job, etc. However, when I went to interview and dropped the guy's name, neither the hiring manager nor the recruiter knew who I was talking about.I've had a few recruiters reach out to me via Linkedin, but I've not been searching when it happened. I have tried contacting the recruiter or the hiring manager on LinkedIn, but always receive frosty responses or canned responses. "We're currently evaluating multiple candidates. We will notify you if you have been selected to move forward with the interview process."
I was actually just chatting with another developer as a result of this thread and they said the same thing I did. I don't know if it's an IT thing, but in general I've gotten the cold shoulder until they look at your resume.
I've either been able to chat a little bit with the hr head about the position, or I've been able to feasibly work out what manager is doing the hiring(website, LinkedIn, journals etc) and send a quick email expressing interest and asking for a quick phone chat.
I found the key is interest in the job, not interest in getting the job makes a better impression. Also, just cause it didn't work a few times doesn't mean it doesn't help.
In any case, not everything works for everybody in every situation. But a sales attitude at the right times really does help.
californiagrownI've either been able to chat a little bit with the hr head about the position, or I've been able to feasibly work out what manager is doing the hiring(website, LinkedIn, journals etc) and send a quick email expressing interest and asking for a quick phone chat.I found the key is interest in the job, not interest in getting the job makes a better impression. Also, just cause it didn't work a few times doesn't mean it doesn't help.
In any case, not everything works for everybody in every situation. But a sales attitude at the right times really does help.
I feel ya. I'm finally at a place I don't see leaving anytime soon, which is a lovely change from the last 6 years