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My experience is with the Descendant 8
Before ordering I read a review about the tongues breaking off but I went ahead and ordered them anyway..
Knowing it was a weak point I was careful never to torque the end of the tongue. My first day on the mountain with them I pulled my boots off at lunch to give my feet a break and the metal rivet attaching the tongue snapped liked a soggy toothpick.
For this type of money I wouldn't expect such a flimsy overlook.
powderwhorNah man, you just have to replace the hardware with something beefier. Go to your boot fitter and get a washer, a bolt and a T nut. Problem solved.
You shouldn't have to do that though. I would expect from a high end company like full tilt not to produce a product that breaks easily.
InDeV.gifYou shouldn't have to do that though. I would expect from a high end company like full tilt not to produce a product that breaks easily.
I agree. Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty fuckin salty about it. But I have skiing to do an don't feel like waiting around for a warranty or new tongues. A little hardware is free or practically free and now the tongues are pretty much guaranteed to never fall off.
powderwhorI agree. Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty fuckin salty about it. But I have skiing to do an don't feel like waiting around for a warranty or new tongues. A little hardware is free or practically free and now the tongues are pretty much guaranteed to never fall off.
I feel ya. Hope they hold up. I would still email full tilt and probably provide pictures and a list of the hardware you used for the repair.
AparkerIs this the same issue for the descendant 4? I was planning on getting those for next year because my boots are too small.
Yes, they all have this problem. But they should be fixed by next year and supposedly Full Tilt is providing a fix for this year's as well. It's simply a rivet that isn't strong enough.
whistlesMy experience is with the Descendant 8Before ordering I read a review about the tongues breaking off but I went ahead and ordered them anyway..
Knowing it was a weak point I was careful never to torque the end of the tongue. My first day on the mountain with them I pulled my boots off at lunch to give my feet a break and the metal rivet attaching the tongue snapped liked a soggy toothpick.
For this type of money I wouldn't expect such a flimsy overlook.
Hey guys,
We’ve learned that there’s been some issues with a limited number of rivets breaking when the tongue isn’t pulled rearward prior to opening the boot up. It’s an inconvenience if the rivet breaks for sure but its not a safety concern – the tongue is held in place when the buckle/cable system is buckled.
If you do run into the issue, check in with the shop that you picked them up at or hit us up (http://fulltiltboots.com/support/contact-us) or at 1.800.718.0820 and we’ll get a set of replacements out to you ASAP.
InDeV.gifYou shouldn't have to do that though. I would expect from a high end company like full tilt not to produce a product that breaks easily.
price doesn't dictate "high-end". Keep in mind they are basically re-dressing a boot that was used in the 1980's. They price within range of competitors in their direct market, use cheaper materials, and profit immensely. There was a post below claiming that Dalbello is a high-end Full Tilt boot, and having owned both brands of boots, I would tend to agree. Full Tilt has succeeded, however, by positioning themselves with some of the biggest, trendiest names in skiing, making them a marketing phenomenon.
BenWhitprice doesn't dictate "high-end". Keep in mind they are basically re-dressing a boot that was used in the 1980's. They price within range of competitors in their direct market, use cheaper materials, and profit immensely. There was a post below claiming that Dalbello is a high-end Full Tilt boot, and having owned both brands of boots, I would tend to agree. Full Tilt has succeeded, however, by positioning themselves with some of the biggest, trendiest names in skiing, making them a marketing phenomenon.
This guy hit the nail on the head. If you have spent time studying boots across the board, taken them apart, played with the liners and buckles and done some heavy investigation, you'll quickly see full tilts are like toys ! Sorry ft , I know your reading this. They capitalize on clueless kids who don't even know what a cabrio shell is or why they'd even want one vs an overlap two piece. Granted their components have improved over the very few years they've been on the market, it's time they made a better quality overall product.
Hey guys I was woundering if any one else is/has had the same problem I had today, I was skiing for the second day of this season, and about half way through the day I looked down and saw that the last buckle on my boot was on done but when I went to click it back in I found out that the metal buckle had bent which now made it unable to buckle , I didn't take any crashes all day and the boot was fine before, would warentee cover this? I just dropped money on the boots and would suck to have to pay even more to use them k+ for help (may make another thread about this if I don't get a response soon)
PachankzThis guy hit the nail on the head. If you have spent time studying boots across the board, taken them apart, played with the liners and buckles and done some heavy investigation, you'll quickly see full tilts are like toys ! Sorry ft , I know your reading this. They capitalize on clueless kids who don't even know what a cabrio shell is or why they'd even want one vs an overlap two piece. Granted their components have improved over the very few years they've been on the market, it's time they made a better quality overall product.
meh, i recently bought another pair of full tilts because anything a bootfitter suggested for my wonky shaped (very wide + tall) feet was gonna cost me a small fortune. i bought a pair of classics brand new online for $250 (the same pair of classics i had been on for 3 years before they were too broken to ski, just a different year). i knew i wasn't going to get an absolutely perfect fit, but after a $10 professionally done heat mold and a $40 footbed they are far better fitting and functioning for me than any other boot i probably could have gotten for that price.
seriously, i went to the sports den in SLC (most legit bootfitters around) and after he looked at/measured my foot and went through the options, the cheapest one he could offer me was gonna be at least $800+ after punching out the shells, customizing footbeds, etc. his first suggestion was gonna come out to about $1300. that's just nowhere near my budget as a 19 year old college student. IMO it's easy to see why kids are drawn to full tilt when those are the alternatives that a bootfitter gives you.