Thoughts on our new Prime minister?
Oct 20 2015 3:14PM
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Oct 20 2015 3:30PM
.MASSHOLE.Can someone explain to an American what the change really indicates? What policies are going to be changed, where does he lie on our political spectrum, etc.
This sums it up pretty succinctly if you just want to read the 7 bold items.
Oct 20 2015 4:06PM
Just pumped it was him not Mulcair, however nervously interested in what the future holds, hopefully he puts some form of effort into the west. Most people out here are being quite the drama queens about it. haha
Kinda sucks loosing the child benefit with kid #2 on the way but I guess I don't need it, was going to buy a new sled or an SUV with it anyways LOL.
My wife had a good point, she's concerned that as a young family man he will not be as involved as someone who's family has matured.
Oct 20 2015 5:18PM
RusticlesJust pumped it was him not Mulcair, however nervously interested in what the future holds, hopefully he puts some form of effort into the west. Most people out here are being quite the drama queens about it. hahaKinda sucks loosing the child benefit with kid #2 on the way but I guess I don't need it, was going to buy a new sled or an SUV with it anyways LOL.
My wife had a good point, she's concerned that as a young family man he will not be as involved as someone who's family has matured.
Orrrrr he'll be a shitty father like 99% of the uber successful businessman fathers out there.
What is the likelihood the guy actually can implement change and not get gridlocked with legislators castrating his programs?
Oct 20 2015 10:47PM
RusticlesJust pumped it was him not Mulcair, however nervously interested in what the future holds, hopefully he puts some form of effort into the west. Most people out here are being quite the drama queens about it. hahaKinda sucks loosing the child benefit with kid #2 on the way but I guess I don't need it, was going to buy a new sled or an SUV with it anyways LOL.
My wife had a good point, she's concerned that as a young family man he will not be as involved as someone who's family has matured.
californiagrownOrrrrr he'll be a shitty father like 99% of the uber successful businessman fathers out there.What is the likelihood the guy actually can implement change and not get gridlocked with legislators castrating his programs?
if you know canadian politics, you know his dad.
If you know his dad, you know that in any scenario Trudeau will have at least someone with a level head telling him what to do. It was time for a change, and if he runs with that I honestly don't think implementing it will be that hard. Canada got pretty fucked up in the past few years, somethings not working and I would rather people move on from a harper mindset.
Oct 20 2015 11:03PM
Mod_Daneif you know canadian politics, you know his dad.If you know his dad, you know that in any scenario Trudeau will have at least someone with a level head telling him what to do. It was time for a change, and if he runs with that I honestly don't think implementing it will be that hard. Canada got pretty fucked up in the past few years, somethings not working and I would rather people move on from a harper mindset.
You typed a lot, but didnt really say much.
Oct 20 2015 11:39PM
Mod_Daneif you know canadian politics, you know his dad.If you know his dad, you know that in any scenario Trudeau will have at least someone with a level head telling him what to do. It was time for a change, and if he runs with that I honestly don't think implementing it will be that hard. Canada got pretty fucked up in the past few years, somethings not working and I would rather people move on from a harper mindset.
Maybe I missed something, but how did it get so fucked up? Maybe it's just my white privledge showing but the last ten years have been pretty damn great personally. Not saying I expect Trudeau to fuck it all up but I definitely don't think a ton of change was needed, But that's how democracy works, the majority didn't like the way things were going.
Oct 20 2015 11:42PM
RusticlesMaybe I missed something, but how did it get so fucked up? Maybe it's just my white privledge showing but the last ten years have been pretty damn great personally. Not saying I expect Trudeau to fuck it all up but I definitely don't think a ton of change was needed, But that's how democracy works, the majority didn't like the way things were going.
You can find a bunch of reasons here. Take this website with a grain of salt as it's clearly against Harper but for the most part it's all fact checkable.
Oct 21 2015 12:04AM
californiagrownWhat is the likelihood the guy actually can implement change and not get gridlocked with legislators castrating his programs?
He won a majority government, which means the majority in the house of commons are members of parliament from his party.
Sucks though because the NDP lost a ton of seats and are no longer the official opposition in the house, and they are more aligned with the libs/ agree on more things they want to get done, cons will put up a fight for sure but not much they can do when Trudeau has the majority.
Oct 21 2015 1:52AM
RusticlesMy wife had a good point, she's concerned that as a young family man he will not be as involved as someone who's family has matured.
Same situation as Harper when he was elected. Young family man. (Despite Trudeau being 43 and Harper being 47 at the time)
Did Harper being a young family man make him a worse PM?
Oct 21 2015 9:29AM
VinnieFSame situation as Harper when he was elected. Young family man. (Despite Trudeau being 43 and Harper being 47 at the time)Did Harper being a young family man make him a worse PM?
If you think Trudeau isn't ready to be pm, well congratulations on listening to the conservative bullshit propaganda. That being said, no Harper wasn't a shit pm because he was young at the time, he was shit because he had terrible ideas
Oct 21 2015 10:09AM
Trudeau isn't "not ready" to be PM because he's young, he's "not ready" because he's not a very smart dude, on the whole. That being said, that's not what he's there for - he's the hair and the smile and the name. Unless things go totally sideways, the Liberal government should really be a government by committee, where he listens to smart people who tell him what to do.
That's what I hope, anyway. The platform really is fairly sensible; I voted liberal (though I'm not devastated that the conservatives ended up narrowly winning my riding either as I was pretty torn). So as long as they govern accordingly and don't go full crazy as the NDP likely would have, things will be fine.
The guy who just won Peter MacKay's old seat in Central Nova should really be considered as a future PM in ten years or so. Dude's name is Sean Fraser. Wish he was in charge of the show right now.
Oct 21 2015 10:16AM
I agree with a lot of Trudeau's platform however I strongly disagree with bringing back door to door delivery - It's a dumb move that will end up costing taxpayers around $1 Billion a year because the Gov't will have to bail out Canada Post once again. All of that money could be used so much better elsewhere.
Oct 21 2015 10:21AM
J.D.Trudeau isn't "not ready" to be PM because he's young, he's "not ready" because he's not a very smart dude, on the whole.
He just became Prime Minister - Trust me, he's a smart dude. I don't think that is why he was elected though, I think the Canadian people wanted someone with compassion which I believe he has.
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Oct 21 2015 11:19AM
KazabazuaI agree with a lot of Trudeau's platform however I strongly disagree with bringing back door to door delivery - It's a dumb move that will end up costing taxpayers around $1 Billion a year because the Gov't will have to bail out Canada Post once again. All of that money could be used so much better elsewhere.
Yeah no doubt, Some things just become obsolete in todays society and this is one of them, the world has moved on just like cassette tapes and vhs. It might just be to create some jobs though. Things like this are not really game changers for me though. All the parties had some silly ideas.
KazabazuaHe just became Prime Minister - Trust me, he's a smart dude. I don't think that is why he was elected though, I think the Canadian people wanted someone with compassion which I believe he has.
Pretty much, I think everyone was sick of Harper's bullshit regardless if it was just some facebook meme or not. I wonder how things would have gone if Harper would have resigned and let someone else take hold.
Oct 21 2015 11:33AM
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watch all of it, or go to 4:30
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Oct 21 2015 3:01PM
FROGGINBULLFISHbeing smart has nothing to do with being a good politician. eg. america elected clinton then george dubya back to back
FYI, Clinton is extremely, extremely intelligent... And dubya is really smart as well- he just didn't have a world class intellect like you'd hope for in the leader of the free world.
In any case, its typically the presidents advisors that make a president seem like a genius or a failure. Gotta have a great team around you.
Oct 21 2015 4:14PM
RusticlesMaybe I missed something, but how did it get so fucked up? Maybe it's just my white privledge showing but the last ten years have been pretty damn great personally. Not saying I expect Trudeau to fuck it all up but I definitely don't think a ton of change was needed, But that's how democracy works, the majority didn't like the way things were going.
He was fucking the environment, parks canada, libraries, archives, museums, basically any arts based occupation, the CBC, minority rights, refugees, missing and murdered Aboriginal women.
Yeah the Cons will keep taxes low, but who cares? I want to live in a country that doesn't just care about the bottom dollar, I'm sick of living in a country where the environment and life enriching programs such as the arts and parks get tossed out the door in favour of corporate interests, and I'm more than willing to pay a few extra tax dollars to get back that sense of pride.
Canada used to be a respected country in the world, Harper shit the bed on that front.
Oct 21 2015 4:49PM
J.D.The guy who just won Peter MacKay's old seat in Central Nova should really be considered as a future PM in ten years or so. Dude's name is Sean Fraser. Wish he was in charge of the show right now.
I wish Brad Wall would have stepped up to run for leadership of the Conservatives. He announced that he wouldn't be though. Him and the Sask party have been kicking ass, and have helped transform the gap in the map from a have-not to a have province.
Oct 21 2015 5:53PM
has Trudeau done anything to warrant being called not smart? or does everyone still have their panties in a bunch because he has had fun in his lifetime and was a teacher and not a economist or lawyer before becoming an MP?
he ran a smart campaign, seems to have ambition for real changes, he's willing to take risks to make these changes and to top that pulled of an impressive victory, lead the liberal party from 39 seats in the house to 175.
nice hair and famous daddy can go a long way, but not that long.
guy deserves some credit.
Oct 21 2015 6:06PM
will_powderHe was fucking the environment, parks canada, libraries, archives, museums, basically any arts based occupation, the CBC, minority rights, refugees, missing and murdered Aboriginal women.Yeah the Cons will keep taxes low, but who cares? I want to live in a country that doesn't just care about the bottom dollar, I'm sick of living in a country where the environment and life enriching programs such as the arts and parks get tossed out the door in favour of corporate interests, and I'm more than willing to pay a few extra tax dollars to get back that sense of pride.
Canada used to be a respected country in the world, Harper shit the bed on that front.
Did your Canada actually get fucked or are you just choked over posts you've seen on social media?
Mine hasn't changed in 20+ years. the same outdoors, the same environment I've enjoyed are exactly the same as they've been since I can remember.
Harper did some questionable things, but they didn't make Canada not respected.
Oct 21 2015 6:56PM
RusticlesDid your Canada actually get fucked or are you just choked over posts you've seen on social media?Mine hasn't changed in 20+ years. the same outdoors, the same environment I've enjoyed are exactly the same as they've been since I can remember.
Harper did some questionable things, but they didn't make Canada not respected.
1. The environment isn't going to show that much degradation in 10 years of Harper rule, but things he did could have serious implications down the road. He was cutting 25-28 million annually from the parks budget, and people lost a lot of jobs. A good friend was forced out of his Glacier National park warden's position in 2013 for that reason. Obviously parks look much the same, but the cuts were seriously jeopardizing the ability of parks staff to maintain into the future.
http://www.canadaspastmatters.ca/historical-sites/cuts-to-parks-canada.aspx
2. Secondly, Harper showed COMPLETE disregard for the Kyoto Protocol. Again not something that we see the consequences of immediately, but 20, 30, 40 years down the road we may wonder why we didn't do something then.
3. federal libraries are getting cut like CRAZY. Sucks for anyone hoping for a career in archives or museums.
4. CBC CUTS. I started to seriously listen to the CBC in 2005. Specifically CBC Radio 3, the service for new Canadian indie rock, pop, rap etc. Back in 2005-2007, Radio 3 was rad: so many hosts, so many shows, so many podcasts, just great programming all in all. As time has progressed, the CBC has been slashed so much by Harper that Radio 3 is all but dead. Only one or two podcast remain, and the shows have either been cancelled or drastically lowered. Radio 3 is as good as dead.
So yes, if you worked in construction, engineering, oil, business etc times were relatively the same as always with Harper. Other fields weren't so lucky. Plus he wasn't looking into the future environmental health of the country.
Oct 21 2015 7:08PM
.MASSHOLE.Can someone explain to an American what the change really indicates? What policies are going to be changed, where does he lie on our political spectrum, etc.
Similar to the change Obama advocated, ie lots of talk about "change" but little actual direct big changes, at least that's what I got. That said, the public wanted to hear that change was happening more than what will change so I can't hate him too much for doing what was needed to win.
msewardhas Trudeau done anything to warrant being called not smart? or does everyone still have their panties in a bunch because he has had fun in his lifetime and was a teacher and not a economist or lawyer before becoming an MP?he ran a smart campaign, seems to have ambition for real changes, he's willing to take risks to make these changes and to top that pulled of an impressive victory, lead the liberal party from 39 seats in the house to 175.
nice hair and famous daddy can go a long way, but not that long.
guy deserves some credit.
kinda a claim, a lot of the kids the year above me at my old highschool got taught by him
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Oct 21 2015 8:47PM
will_powderHe was fucking the environment, parks canada, libraries, archives, museums, basically any arts based occupation, the CBC, minority rights, refugees, missing and murdered Aboriginal women.Yeah the Cons will keep taxes low, but who cares? I want to live in a country that doesn't just care about the bottom dollar, I'm sick of living in a country where the environment and life enriching programs such as the arts and parks get tossed out the door in favour of corporate interests, and I'm more than willing to pay a few extra tax dollars to get back that sense of pride.
Canada used to be a respected country in the world, Harper shit the bed on that front.
Well said - I think we're still a pretty well respected country though, four years of bad politics doesn't change that.
Oct 21 2015 9:11PM
Oct 21 2015 9:12PM
Voted Conservative, super unsure about Trudeau as a leader. The though of that guy sitting at the same table as Putin is absolutely terrifying, he will be eaten alive.
That said, the Liberal platform does have some really solid positives to go along with a whole bunch of "who gives a shit, this will never happen" parts.
All in all: disappointed with the result, curious to see what happens, trying to reserve judgement as best I can
Oct 21 2015 11:21PM
RusticlesDid your Canada actually get fucked or are you just choked over posts you've seen on social media?Mine hasn't changed in 20+ years. the same outdoors, the same environment I've enjoyed are exactly the same as they've been since I can remember.
Harper did some questionable things, but they didn't make Canada not respected.
Canada isn't like America where everyone laughs at them. But for those who do follow a little bit of international politics Canada was becoming a laughing stock. That is among liberals and sway voters. Right wing loved Harper and his hardline approach to Muslims and shit.
Oct 22 2015 1:32AM
plyswthsqrrlsVoted Conservative, super unsure about Trudeau as a leader. The though of that guy sitting at the same table as Putin is absolutely terrifying, he will be eaten alive.That said, the Liberal platform does have some really solid positives to go along with a whole bunch of "who gives a shit, this will never happen" parts.
All in all: disappointed with the result, curious to see what happens, trying to reserve judgement as best I can
This is such a dumb argument. When will Trudeau even get that much face time with Putin, even Obama only met him for like 10 seconds? Besides it's international diplomacy not school yard bullying like Putin, Bibi, or wacko conservative/GOPers will have you believe. You think a man who rejuvenated a decimated party and LEAD them to a strong majority isn't a good leader? The only one who had the balls to put shit like deficit spending and legal ganja on the table. Are you dense? This comment reeks of "he's just not ready, nice hair tho" dummy con catch phrases.
I for one am happy we have a fresh, young face who isn't some jaded jackass lawyer as our new prime minister, and I didn't even vote for him.
Oct 22 2015 2:26AM
will_powderHe was fucking the environment, parks canada, libraries, archives, museums, basically any arts based occupation, the CBC, minority rights, refugees, missing and murdered Aboriginal women.Yeah the Cons will keep taxes low, but who cares? I want to live in a country that doesn't just care about the bottom dollar, I'm sick of living in a country where the environment and life enriching programs such as the arts and parks get tossed out the door in favour of corporate interests, and I'm more than willing to pay a few extra tax dollars to get back that sense of pride.
Canada used to be a respected country in the world, Harper shit the bed on that front.
KazabazuaWell said - I think we're still a pretty well respected country though, four years of bad politics doesn't change that.
On the international stage Canada gained a lot of respect over the last ten years. You know the international stage that doesn't really give a fuck about how many Syrians you let into your country or if you post street signs in the native tongue of the First Nations, or that other silly shit you all would like to apologize for.
Canada became much more of an international player and gained a lot of respect in the last ten years. Industry generally grew, folks had jobs, international trade increased and Canada actually started to matter outside of NA. Oil had a big part in that for sure, as did a bunch of Hungry Chinese people. No one misses your gay arts - like Justin Beiber, or a library of Inuit books. And minorities still have all the same rights as other Canadians.
Whatever, I can't wait for your currency to be worth fuck all again and I can head north to ski on the cheap.
Oct 22 2015 5:10AM
cobra_commanderOn the international stage Canada gained a lot of respect over the last ten years. You know the international stage that doesn't really give a fuck about how many Syrians you let into your country or if you post street signs in the native tongue of the First Nations, or that other silly shit you all would like to apologize for.Canada became much more of an international player and gained a lot of respect in the last ten years. Industry generally grew, folks had jobs, international trade increased and Canada actually started to matter outside of NA. Oil had a big part in that for sure, as did a bunch of Hungry Chinese people. No one misses your gay arts - like Justin Beiber, or a library of Inuit books. And minorities still have all the same rights as other Canadians.
Whatever, I can't wait for your currency to be worth fuck all again and I can head north to ski on the cheap.
Again? We're trading at like 75 fucking cents.
You're wrong about the international player idea too. My biggest frustration with Harper's foreign policy was the futility of it. No one gives a shit about Canada on the international stage. We hype ourselves here at home, and project the image of having a strong voice internationally but the fact is we're never leaving America's shadow. I've seen this demonstrated in poli-sci courses where international students are vastly unaware of Canada's existence. They aren't ignorant, our name just don't exactly ring out. Given that ultimate insignificance, the direction that Harper pushed our country (i.e. more interventionist, more combative - see Libya, ISIS bombing campaigns) wasn't new or independent, we were just tagging along on American missions. That's bullshit, imo. Canada's role, given the real weight behind her punches, should be diplomatic and secondary.
Oct 22 2015 12:20PM
Turner.Again? We're trading at like 75 fucking cents.You're wrong about the international player idea too. My biggest frustration with Harper's foreign policy was the futility of it. No one gives a shit about Canada on the international stage. We hype ourselves here at home, and project the image of having a strong voice internationally but the fact is we're never leaving America's shadow. I've seen this demonstrated in poli-sci courses where international students are vastly unaware of Canada's existence. They aren't ignorant, our name just don't exactly ring out. Given that ultimate insignificance, the direction that Harper pushed our country (i.e. more interventionist, more combative - see Libya, ISIS bombing campaigns) wasn't new or independent, we were just tagging along on American missions. That's bullshit, imo. Canada's role, given the real weight behind her punches, should be diplomatic and secondary.
Oh he has seen some students not be aware of Canada, that must meanwe aren't Getting more respected in actual international politics
ive seen finance students not know what hedging is, that doesn't mean it isn't a major part of the industry
Oct 22 2015 12:38PM