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How do you feel about the "discrimination" in rap?
Not many people have made it in rap that don't come from ghettos like Harlem or Compton or Chicago. At this point rap is more than just to express distaste in your previous or current surroundings. If some guys from suburbs, like myself, wanted to start a punk band or a rock band, they could do it. But if they wanted to be a rapper they would be a laughing stock. What do you guys think about this?
Most of the rappers you hear on the radio are not nearly as hood as they claim to be. Some are, but a lot sold some weed to their friends, then dropped 3 mix-tapes about their "trap lyfe"
Some of the best and most respected rappers have come from poetry slams and that whole culture. Rapping about something you're legitimately passionate about and letting that passion show in your music has a lot more to do with success than your roots.
That being said, rap itself was invented in the hood, and is based on spoken word, which originated from slaves. This has just led to it being a pretty black thing to be into, and as a result most of the people you hear are black and poor. Because they grew up hearing people rap. Most white rappers can't say that, and experience and practice is the biggest factor in what makes someone a good rapper.
Theres some great white boys tho, Bones is from a very average background and he kills it, but if you want to find white people look to the producers. They grew up with computers and it shows.
Street credibility is the funniest thing to me. The way people just love taking it so seriously, yet they're always wrong about the artists they like. It's a relatively well known fact that rappers like Tupac, Nas, Ice Cube, etc... Were not exactly gangsters prior to their careers in hip hop, and as stated above, a lot of artists actually come from backgrounds no different from the ones some of the members on this site came from.
It's honestly way easier to just assume no rappers were ever gangsters and just listen to the music.
I wouldn't say it's discrimination as such, but more people don't tend to like cultural appropriation.Hip Hop came for a way for the black community to express their struggles. And when someone like Iggy Azealea comes along, and pays no respect to the black community then people don't like her. She may have milliosn of views on vevo but she can't even sell out a tour. Compare this to someone like Macklemore who actively took part in the black lives rally march and pays respect to hip hop and the black community. No one accuses Macklemore of cultural appropriation because he pays respect to the founders of hip hop.
As for more artists coming from the streets. No one wants to listen to a rich kid spit about how his daddy only has like 5 mil. People from the streets have better, more authentic stories and the listeners can relate to that.
Last point.
Black people do have it easier in the rap game. No one questions if a black person wants to rap, but if a white kid does it, then you'll get ridiculed. It all goes back to my first point of cultural appropriation.
S.J.WI wouldn't say it's discrimination as such, but more people don't tend to like cultural appropriation.Hip Hop came for a way for the black community to express their struggles. And when someone like Iggy Azealea comes along, and pays no respect to the black community then people don't like her. She may have milliosn of views on vevo but she can't even sell out a tour. Compare this to someone like Macklemore who actively took part in the black lives rally march and pays respect to hip hop and the black community. No one accuses Macklemore of cultural appropriation because he pays respect to the founders of hip hop.
As for more artists coming from the streets. No one wants to listen to a rich kid spit about how his daddy only has like 5 mil. People from the streets have better, more authentic stories and the listeners can relate to that.
Last point.
Black people do have it easier in the rap game. No one questions if a black person wants to rap, but if a white kid does it, then you'll get ridiculed. It all goes back to my first point of cultural appropriation.
Macklemore does still get some hate from Lord Jamar, but there are also some other white rappers, such as Pouya or Bones, who may have a ridiculously talented flow, run with "authentic" guys such as Robb Bank$, SGP, and Chris Travis in Pouya's case, but they are still not taken seriously simply because they are white. In fact, on Pouya's "Get Buck" video the label had to say that race does not matter in music because everyone in the comments was squabbling over the fact he was white or Persian or Cuban. White people are still somewhat discriminated in what is viewed as a traditionally black art form.
DadcoreMacklemore does still get some hate from Lord Jamar, but there are also some other white rappers, such as Pouya or Bones, who may have a ridiculously talented flow, run with "authentic" guys such as Robb Bank$, SGP, and Chris Travis in Pouya's case, but they are still not taken seriously simply because they are white. In fact, on Pouya's "Get Buck" video the label had to say that race does not matter in music because everyone in the comments was squabbling over the fact he was white or Persian or Cuban. White people are still somewhat discriminated in what is viewed as a traditionally black art form.
Macklemore got shit because his hiest album won for best rap peformance over Kendrik MAAD city album, which is bullshit because MAAD city was so much better and the grammies have a tendency to snob black artists in favour of white ones.
Azealia Banks put it rather nice " "is, 'You're great. You're amazing. You can do whatever you put your mind to.' And it says to black kids, 'You don't have shit. You don't own shit, not even the shit you created yourself.'
As well Armandla Stenberg
People are more than happy to appropriate black culture and not give two shits about black issues. That's where the problem is.