didnt even make it a minute. that editing was annoying as fuck

Society is just full of cunts. It's hard enough having to come to terms with your sexuality and gender then to have ignorant fucks. I weep for society

This is fucking disgusting. What ever happened to treating others the way you wish to be treated?

Apparently now a days most people want to be treated like pure shit?

Sometimes society disappoints me.

This is a shitty piece of gotchya journalistic shit.

Hey everybody, let's go to the south in a bar district, at night, dress really fucking strange, and see what kind of over the top reactions we can elicit!

Trannys that do this shit give normal trannys a bad name, similar to flaming gays giving gays a bad name, and guidos fist pumping/fighting giving normal folks from jersey a bad name.

when you go out of your way to get a bad reaction, you can generally find one...

it was a pretty disgusting reaction though..

This thread is gay

This video was dumb so I watch the first 30 seconds and them skipped a lot but I saw at 10:37 when the lady pushed her down and I thought that was fucked up.

Skip to 10:28 for the entertainment of the video

I can't wait for every human to die

I hate Myrtle Beach. It's such a shit hole.

Transgender-ism is a mental disorder. Is it not more possible that rather than your large, multifunctioning, healthy body being out of sync with your mind, it is the little 5kg organ in your skull that something is going wrong?

It is the only mental disorder that we allow people to harm themseleves. Cut off your penis or breasts? SURE GO AHEAD BUD but Depression? NO DON'T CUT YOURSELF THAT'S A DISORDER BUT BEING TRANS IS PERFECTLY NORMAL.

https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2012/11/21/what-many-transgender-activists-dont-want-you-to-know-and-why-you-should-know-it-anyway/

Yes, you only have one life to live, live it. But maybe don't mutilate yourself and have "buyers guilt" when you're 40

TurkeltonTransgender-ism is a mental disorder. Is it not more possible that rather than your large, multifunctioning, healthy body being out of sync with your mind, it is the little 5kg organ in your skull that something is going wrong?

It is the only mental disorder that we allow people to harm themseleves. Cut off your penis or breasts? SURE GO AHEAD BUD but Depression? NO DON'T CUT YOURSELF THAT'S A DISORDER BUT BEING TRANS IS PERFECTLY NORMAL.

https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2012/11/21/what-many-transgender-activists-dont-want-you-to-know-and-why-you-should-know-it-anyway/

Yes, you only have one life to live, live it. But maybe don't mutilate yourself and have "buyers guilt" when you're 40

Let's for argumentative sake say being Trans is a mental disorder and a man gets implants and a vagina etc, etc. How is it harming ones self to be who you truly believe you are? You can't compare Trans to depression. They're completely different mental disorders.

Okay and being trans isn't a mental disorder http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/09/04/american-scientists-world-homosexuality

It's only a medical myth that there's a chemical imbalance in the brain.

Now onto your third point. Have you ever met a trans person who's had buyers remorse after having a sex change? What's so bad about being who you want to be?

UglyboyLet's for argumentative sake say being Trans is a mental disorder and a man gets implants and a vagina etc, etc. How is it harming ones self to be who you truly believe you are? You can't compare Trans to depression. They're completely different mental disorders.

Okay and being trans isn't a mental disorder http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/09/04/american-scientists-world-homosexuality

It's only a medical myth that there's a chemical imbalance in the brain.

Now onto your third point. Have you ever met a trans person who's had buyers remorse after having a sex change? What's so bad about being who you want to be?

Its an interesting very logical argument. And yes I have met a man and a woman who both regret doing the hormones and surgery. I've also met many more who are much happier post sex change. ( I lived in the Castro of SF for a few years).

That said, you should be able to do whatever you want to yourself.

californiagrownIts an interesting very logical argument. And yes I have met a man and a woman who both regret doing the hormones and surgery. I've also met many more who are much happier post sex change. ( I lived in the Castro of SF for a few years).

That said, you should be able to do whatever you want to yourself.

Okay, for devils advocate, let's say homosexuality and trans is a mental disorder. Does it really matter? We can't refer to people with down syndrome as retards so why do we need to remind people who are gay and trans that they're not normal. It's hard enough to come to terms with being gay and trans then to have someone on top of that go "hahaha you're not normal, you have a mental disorder" is just really not needed. You live in San Fran so I'm going to assume you've met heaps of people with stories about discrimination in terms to their gender and sexuality.

UglyboyOkay, for devils advocate, let's say homosexuality and trans is a mental disorder. Does it really matter? We can't refer to people with down syndrome as retards so why do we need to remind people who are gay and trans that they're not normal. It's hard enough to come to terms with being gay and trans then to have someone on top of that go "hahaha you're not normal, you have a mental disorder" is just really not needed. You live in San Fran so I'm going to assume you've met heaps of people with stories about discrimination in terms to their gender and sexuality.

Mental retardation is a medical term still currently taught and in use. If you have mental retardation you are in fact, retarded.

Trans folks aren't normal. Do you not know what normal means? Who the fuck wants to be normal anyways? Probly only teenagers. And how are we reminding them they aren't normal? I thought we were discussing an interesting hypothesis concerning how the brain has a disconnect regarding the body's gender? Do you not know the difference between intellectual discussion and insult hurling on the street?

californiagrownMental retardation is a medical term still currently taught and in use. If you have mental retardation you are in fact, retarded.

Trans folks aren't normal. Do you not know what normal means? Who the fuck wants to be normal anyways? Probly only teenagers. And how are we reminding them they aren't normal? I thought we were discussing an interesting hypothesis concerning how the brain has a disconnect regarding the body's gender? Do you not know the difference between intellectual discussion and insult hurling on the street?

I was referring to everyday society and not the medical community. Off course the medical community can use the term retard because it doesn't have negative connotations within their community.

But to your normal point, with people like Turkleton saying they're not "normal" is reminding them they're different. Yeah you can say "well what is normal" all you want but at the end of the day, the straight and cisgender are the majority and will always be "normal".

But yes,we are discussing the hypothesis if being gay or trans is a mental disorder. My point is that even if it is true, do we need to remind them? Like I've said you can't refer to a person with down syndrome as a retard because it's hurtful.

However, being gay or trans isn't a birth defect. http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/06/biological_basis_for_homosexuality_the_fraternal_birth_order_explanation.html

UglyboyI was referring to everyday society and not the medical community. Off course the medical community can use the term retard because it doesn't have negative connotations within their community.

But to your normal point, with people like Turkleton saying they're not "normal" is reminding them they're different. Yeah you can say "well what is normal" all you want but at the end of the day, the straight and cisgender are the majority and will always be "normal".

But yes,we are discussing the hypothesis if being gay or trans is a mental disorder. My point is that even if it is true, do we need to remind them? Like I've said you can't refer to a person with down syndrome as a retard because it's hurtful.

However, being gay or trans isn't a birth defect. http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/06/biological_basis_for_homosexuality_the_fraternal_birth_order_explanation.html

Who is reminding them? Its an interesting thought that we condone and encourage self mutilation within a population that is mentally Ill.

Why arent skinny girls born into a fat girls body given the same support? Instead they are told to love the body they have.

And retardation has a negative connotation for a reason. Should we also takeout birth defect from our lexicon? Handicapped? Bipolar? Fat? All conditions with rightfully negative connotations. They are accurate descriptions.

californiagrownWho is reminding them? Its an interesting thought that we condone and encourage self mutilation within a population that is mentally Ill.

Why arent skinny girls born into a fat girls body given the same support? Instead they are told to love the body they have.

And retardation has a negative connotation for a reason. Should we also takeout birth defect from our lexicon? Handicapped? Bipolar? Fat? All conditions with rightfully negative connotations. They are accurate descriptions.

Well the mutation is so they can feel like themselves. We also cut peoples legs off if they have an infection. We do absurd amount of things to the body, including plastic surgery which you could look at is the exact same thing. "I wasn't given big enough boobs so I'm going to get bigger boobs". It allows someone to feel comfortable within their skin.

Just look at this thread, turkleton said they have a mental disease. SFB did the exact same thing on the deleted bruce jenner thread. I don't think either Turkleton or SFB meant it in hurtful way. But just like a white person saying "nigger" it can have negative effect on the LGTB community.

Also to your fat point. Yes, some people are fast metabolisms and some people have slow metabolisms. Except being fat is dangerous to your health and can be curved with exercise and eating properly.

And to your last point. There's a difference between a medical professional using terms and your religious uncle using the terms to actively discriminate and justify his hatred.

UglyboyWell the mutation is so they can feel like themselves. We also cut peoples legs off if they have an infection. We do absurd amount of things to the body, including plastic surgery which you could look at is the exact same thing. "I wasn't given big enough boobs so I'm going to get bigger boobs". It allows someone to feel comfortable within their skin.

Just look at this thread, turkleton said they have a mental disease. SFB did the exact same thing on the deleted bruce jenner thread. I don't think either Turkleton or SFB meant it in hurtful way. But just like a white person saying "nigger" it can have negative effect on the LGTB community.

Also to your fat point. Yes, some people are fast metabolisms and some people have slow metabolisms. Except being fat is dangerous to your health and can be curved with exercise and eating properly.

And to your last point. There's a difference between a medical professional using terms and your religious uncle using the terms to actively discriminate and justify his hatred.

The body is a vessel. To change ones appearance is purely changing ones appearance. You are what you are and that won't change regardless of your outward appearance.

To change your appearance unless you are objectively horribly disfigured is elective surgery in my mind, period. I don't see the difference between a dumb blonde getting DDs, and a tranny getting his D turned into a V. Both feel better about themselves after the surgery, neither was remotely medically needed.

Why do you refuse to engage in a discussion? Do you disagree with the assertion that it is a mental defect?

californiagrownWho is reminding them? Its an interesting thought that we condone and encourage self mutilation within a population that is mentally Ill.

Why arent skinny girls born into a fat girls body given the same support? Instead they are told to love the body they have.

And retardation has a negative connotation for a reason. Should we also takeout birth defect from our lexicon? Handicapped? Bipolar? Fat? All conditions with rightfully negative connotations. They are accurate descriptions.

Your point about skinny girls in fat bodies is interesting but no so relevant because that can be changed through lifestyle, as you would know.

And ugly, you're missing the point about using the word "retarded." It's a problem not in its overall use but because kids use it as an insult to point out bad things, eg "you're retarded." Same thing goes for using "you're gay" as an insult. Gay and retarded as words themselves are fair game but using them as insults is no good.

californiagrownThe body is a vessel. To change ones appearance is purely changing ones appearance. You are what you are and that won't change regardless of your outward appearance.

To change your appearance unless you are objectively horribly disfigured is elective surgery in my mind, period. I don't see the difference between a dumb blonde getting DDs, and a tranny getting his D turned into a V. Both feel better about themselves after the surgery, neither was remotely medically needed.

Why do you refuse to engage in a discussion? Do you disagree with the assertion that it is a mental defect?

But shouldn't a person always feel happy about themselves? A person doesn't need to buy a ferrari. They buy one for happiness and the thrill of driving.

A person should have the right to feel happy about them selves. Whether that's through tattoo's, implants or a sex change.

And where did I ever refuse to partake in a discussion. I'm rebuttalling your posts and your'e doing the same to mine. And no I don't think it's a mental disorder. There's scientific hypothesis's regarding it. But even if it was, it's hurtful to remind someone of that.

Let's look at red heads. Technically speaking it's a mutation, but they're accepted in society. Religious folk don't say "god condemns red heads". But religious people love spurting that being gay or trans is a mental disease. Even though there is no scientific evidence only hypothesis regarding a "gay gene".

mirozYour point about skinny girls in fat bodies is interesting but no so relevant because that can be changed through lifestyle, as you would know.

And ugly, you're missing the point about using the word "retarded." It's a problem not in its overall use but because kids use it as an insult to point out bad things, eg "you're retarded." Same thing goes for using "you're gay" as an insult. Gay and retarded as words themselves are fair game but using them as insults is no good.

BF can be changed to a point. There are a lot of genetics at play as well. The more apt similarity is the flat chested girl getting DDs and botox. Or the small guy injecting oils and getting pec and calf implants.

Or frankly getting on test. Who the fuck doesn't want to run test? Its the feel good substance of our species.

UglyboyBut shouldn't a person always feel happy about themselves? A person doesn't need to buy a ferrari. They buy one for happiness and the thrill of driving.

A person should have the right to feel happy about them selves. Whether that's through tattoo's, implants or a sex change.

And where did I ever refuse to partake in a discussion. I'm rebuttalling your posts and your'e doing the same to mine. And no I don't think it's a mental disorder. There's scientific hypothesis's regarding it. But even if it was, it's hurtful to remind someone of that.

Let's look at red heads. Technically speaking it's a mutation, but they're accepted in society. Religious folk don't say "god condemns red heads". But religious people love spurting that being gay or trans is a mental disease. Even though there is no scientific evidence only hypothesis regarding a "gay gene".

Red heads are the butt of mean spirited jokes that are accepted by society as funny. Not fair, but accepted.

The brain does not agree with the body in the case of a trans. It does not recognize the body as its own. What are the scientific hypothesis regarding why people become transgender? You haven't made any arguments, you've just said there are other ideas put there... What are they?

californiagrownRed heads are the butt of mean spirited jokes that are accepted by society as funny. Not fair, but accepted.

The brain does not agree with the body in the case of a trans. It does not recognize the body as its own. What are the scientific hypothesis regarding why people become transgender? You haven't made any arguments, you've just said there are other ideas put there... What are they?

http://healthland.time.com/2012/12/13/new-insight-into-the-epigenetic-roots-of-homosexuality/

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/06/biological_basis_for_homosexuality_the_fraternal_birth_order_explanation.html

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/33

Uglyboyhttp://healthland.time.com/2012/12/13/new-insight-into-the-epigenetic-roots-of-homosexuality/

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/06/biological_basis_for_homosexuality_the_fraternal_birth_order_explanation.html

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/33

Cliffnotrs about the origins/cause of being transgender would be great. Otherwise, again, you aren't contributing to the discussion. You are citing sources from an argument you never made.

californiagrownCliffnotrs about the origins/cause of being transgender would be great. Otherwise, again, you aren't contributing to the discussion. You are citing sources from an argument you never made.

My original point was even if trans and gay were in fact mental diseases why do we need to remind them? Or use it against them

UglyboyMy original point was even if trans and gay were in fact mental diseases why do we need to remind them? Or use it against them

No. Do you think it is one?

californiagrownNo. Do you think it is one?

No, I don't think being gay or trans is a mental disorder. Until there is hard scientific proof.

I would argue that the ladies who assaulted her should spend time behind bars.

UglyboyNo, I don't think being gay or trans is a mental disorder. Until there is hard scientific proof.

So what is your hypothesis, how they come to be? That's what the discussion was about.

that video was incredibly retarded.

californiagrownSo what is your hypothesis, how they come to be? That's what the discussion was about.

the discussion was never about how you come to be trans or gay. It was about if being gay or trans was a mental disease why it doesn't matter.

And I'm not a scientists, so I don't have an explanation for how someone comes to be gay. Do we have an explanation for how straight come to be? No, it's just assumed that evolution caused people to be straight for the purposes of reproduction. But some people don't want kids, or they can't have kids. Does that make them mentally ill?

Uglyboythe discussion was never about how you come to be trans or gay. It was about if being gay or trans was a mental disease why it doesn't matter.

And I'm not a scientists, so I don't have an explanation for how someone comes to be gay. Do we have an explanation for how straight come to be? No, it's just assumed that evolution caused people to be straight for the purposes of reproduction. But some people don't want kids, or they can't have kids. Does that make them mentally ill?

Straight came to be because it is a trait necessary for the survival of our species. Its a basic reproductive trait. To not have kids is a choice. Gay/trans is not a choice. Disease is not a choice.

I guess the question to you would be, why do you not believe being trans is not a mental disease? Its ridiculous how adamant you are about avoiding this basic question haha.

Lemme guess you are gonna say " why does it matter, why should we remind them". Its a fucking curious discussion, based on trying understand why. Jesus christ. Are you a brain dead dolt who doesn't care about understanding why things are?

californiagrownStraight came to be because it is a trait necessary for the survival of our species. Its a basic reproductive trait. To not have kids is a choice. Gay/trans is not a choice. Disease is not a choice.

I guess the question to you would be, why do you not believe being trans is not a mental disease? Its ridiculous how adamant you are about avoiding this basic question haha.

Lemme guess you are gonna say " why does it matter, why should we remind them". Its a fucking curious discussion, based on trying understand why. Jesus christ. Are you a brain dead dolt who doesn't care about understanding why things are?

no I've told you I don't think being trans or gay is a mental disease. I said it in one of my first posts on this thread.

Uglyboyno I've told you I don't think being trans or gay is a mental disease. I said it in one of my first posts on this thread.

Hahahaha you are one dense cokkie, huh?

Been said many times before... Why?

I guess you have no use for reasoning in this world. Must be a hard way to go through life- too scared to ask the question why?

californiagrownHahahaha you are one dense cokkie, huh?

Been said many times before... Why?

I guess you have no use for reasoning in this world. Must be a hard way to go through life- too scared to ask the question why?

What the fuck? You're pulling shit out of your ass mate. I said I don't think being gay or trans is a mental diseasee and you spurl this shit. There is no logical rebuttal in your response. Been said many times???? What? And what question am I meant to be asking?

TurkeltonNO DON'T CUT YOURSELF THAT'S A DISORDER BUT BEING TRANS IS PERFECTLY NORMAL.

As part of the content team and having the purple name, you become a representative of Newschoolers of sorts. You're currently a horrible representative of this amazing site. That (along with your entire post) is one of the most ignorant things I have read on this website in a really, really long time.

I genuinely hope that at some point in time you realize how fucked what you said is, and you feel terrible about it. But, more than that, I hope you learn how to accept people for who they are.

UglyboyWhat the fuck? You're pulling shit out of your ass mate. I said I don't think being gay or trans is a mental diseasee and you spurl this shit. There is no logical rebuttal in your response. Been said many times???? What? And what question am I meant to be asking?

Why don't you think it is a mental disease? Simple question.

Troy.As part of the content team and having the purple name, you become a representative of Newschoolers of sorts. You're currently a horrible representative of this amazing site. That (along with your entire post) is one of the most ignorant things I have read on this website in a really, really long time.

I genuinely hope that at some point in time you realize how fucked what you said is, and you feel terrible about it. But, more than that, I hope you learn how to accept people for who they are.

Yeah different viewpoints suck. We shouldn't allow them.

Troy.As part of the content team and having the purple name, you become a representative of Newschoolers of sorts. You're currently a horrible representative of this amazing site. That (along with your entire post) is one of the most ignorant things I have read on this website in a really, really long time.

I genuinely hope that at some point in time you realize how fucked what you said is, and you feel terrible about it. But, more than that, I hope you learn how to accept people for who they are.

weather you like it or not, he's right. Does it make the mutilation wrong? No. Not in my opinion. But as a society we are encouraging sever self mutilation. Like implants. And i understand where turk is coming from, he's not mad at transexuals for being trans, he's complaining about our societies eagerness to accept such an obvious double standard.

i'm not gonna lie, referring to gay people as diseased comes across pretty offensive, like can you not find a more suitable word? Unless you genuinely believe them do be dysfunctional and that it is a problem, in which case you're a real asshole.

'In humans, "disease" is often used more broadly to refer to any condition that causes pain, dysfunction, distress, social problems, or death to the person afflicted, or similar problems for those in contact with the person.'

Lord_Byronweather you like it or not, he's right. Does it make the mutilation wrong? No. Not in my opinion. But as a society we are encouraging sever self mutilation. Like implants. And i understand where turk is coming from, he's not mad at transexuals for being trans, he's complaining about our societies eagerness to accept such an obvious double standard.

If that's how he meant it, it sure as hell didn't come across like that. The all caps "BUT TRANS IS PERFECTLY NORMAL" is bluntly stating that being transgendered is unacceptable, and something to be ashamed of, which isn't true at all. Maybe not "normal", but skiing isn't normal, nor is the internet.

californiagrownYeah different viewpoints suck. We shouldn't allow them.

Views which could be considered hateful, falsely incriminating or discriminatory should definitely be written with care. Otherwise you come across as looking to offend, and if you are affiliated with professional organisations this is perhaps not the wisest thing to do publicly

Troy.If that's how he meant it, it sure as hell didn't come across like that. The all caps "BUT TRANS IS PERFECTLY NORMAL" is bluntly stating that being transgendered is unacceptable, and something to be ashamed of, which isn't true at all. Maybe not "normal", but skiing isn't normal, nor is the internet.

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Fred_Beardidnt even make it a minute. that editing was annoying as fuck

yeah why the fuck did they edit it like that? impossible to watch

Troy.If that's how he meant it, it sure as hell didn't come across like that. The all caps "BUT TRANS IS PERFECTLY NORMAL" is bluntly stating that being transgendered is unacceptable, and something to be ashamed of, which isn't true at all. Maybe not "normal", but skiing isn't normal, nor is the internet.

Agreed.

At least he didn't call it a disease or illness. Being transgender in and of itself is not a disorder, but a prerequisite of being transgender is a condition called dysphoria, which is a disorder. "Being transexual is the result of the body not matching up to how the brain perceives it to be, as opposed to how someone feels they should 'act'. In a world where genders aren't a thing, and boys can wear dresses and girls can act macho and that wasn't seen as 'weird', gender dysphoria would still be a thing."

Saying "It is the only mental disorder that we allow people to harm themseleves" is not entirely accurate, because the use of the word harm is incorrect here. Undergoing professional treatment, whatever it may be, to correct transgenderism is not harm; it's the only way we can help these people live a full and free life. Comparing that to mutilation - "an act of physical injury that degrades the appearance or function of any living body" - and the physical acts done by the severely depressed is also not accurate. The use of these words is not appropriate in this situation.

While it may be true that the issue is one of the brain, not the body (i.e. the body is perfectly healthy, by medical standards), the brain is the one that defines who you are. You ARE your brain. It just lives in the body you grew.

mirozAgreed.

At least he didn't call it a disease or illness. Being transgender in and of itself is not a disorder, but a prerequisite of being transgender is a condition called dysphoria, which is a disorder. "Being transexual is the result of the body not matching up to how the brain perceives it to be, as opposed to how someone feels they should 'act'. In a world where genders aren't a thing, and boys can wear dresses and girls can act macho and that wasn't seen as 'weird', gender dysphoria would still be a thing."

Saying "It is the only mental disorder that we allow people to harm themseleves" is not entirely accurate, because the use of the word harm is incorrect here. Undergoing professional treatment, whatever it may be, to correct transgenderism is not harm; it's the only way we can help these people live a full and free life. Comparing that to mutilation - "an act of physical injury that degrades the appearance or function of any living body" - and the physical acts done by the severely depressed is also not accurate. The use of these words is not appropriate in this situation.

While it may be true that the issue is one of the brain, not the body (i.e. the body is perfectly healthy, by medical standards), the brain is the one that defines who you are. You ARE your brain. It just lives in the body you grew.

i condsider any survival/quality of life surgery necessary, anything for your appearance I don't. People should still be free to do it, but lets not pretend its something it's not. People are cutting off their dicks because their brain is telling them thats the solution, and that's fine with me. Let em.

Just like abortions are just baby murders, just like fake tits are a ridiculous operation, etc. It's all ridiculous, but theres no god saying we can't be ridiculous. But don't pretend its normal either.

Troy.If that's how he meant it, it sure as hell didn't come across like that. The all caps "BUT TRANS IS PERFECTLY NORMAL" is bluntly stating that being transgendered is unacceptable, and something to be ashamed of, which isn't true at all. Maybe not "normal", but skiing isn't normal, nor is the internet.

I have not 1 thing against transitioning. EVERYONE IS AUTONOMOUS AND HAS THEIR FREE RIGHTS TO DO SO. To be fair, my sentences were a little harsh. It is astounding how people view self harm to be disgusting and heathen but to self harm permanently to be fine, especially if it's not the right solution. However, everyone must be educated. It is just society is eager to not question it. There are pre-pubescent children taking hormones to change themselves before they even know who they are. I'm not saying for the person to be ashamed. It is their choice as an autonomous being. It is however not explored deeply enough for the root causes and whether it will actually be the right thing. Hence the idea of "buyers guilt".

Read this article on regret for sex reassignment surgery:http://thefederalist.com/2014/11/11/trouble-in-transtopia-murmurs-of-sex-change-regret/?utm_source=The+Federalist+List&utm_campaign=23d0544c79-RSS_DAILY_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cfcb868ceb-23d0544c79-83773797

Look at this report from SRS in Sweden: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21364939

"RESULTS:

The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8-4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8-62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9-8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0-3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.

CONCLUSIONS:

Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."

Sex change may not always be the solution. For some, it'll be the nail in the coffin for suicide rather than a happy life.

The above video is very interesting. I watched 3/4 of it last week, and it's viewpoints are interesting. Watch the teenage girl talk about "Lady Gaga... acceptance blah blah" and even though she has no connection to transgenderism apart from I think a friend, she is spreading views that she doesn't even fully know herself, being I believe 13. Watch the Asian transgender woman speak of her experience. There is someone who it was a solution for. I think everyone should be themselves but the fact people see it as progressive is not a good thing in my opinion. It is a treatment for a disorder, and it should not be the go to.

Spagett+This thread is gay

it's for your health