Hey guys I'm looking at picking up a nice no regard for humanity ski that can tear up the fall line and still rip the trees sitting in at a waist line of 115-125. They don't have to be full twins cause I'm not really worry about landing switch off things with these, more just worried about killing the mountain. Thanks guys and for reference I'm 6'2 and 215 lbs.
Faction Thirteen.
Don't worry about the trees, they'll move.
ON3P Billy Goats
Kitten Factory Chairman
4FRNT Hoji
Candide 4.0
Jeffrey 122
All would work, the first three are directional so fit your description better.
Based on ON3P's description of the ski, you might wanna look into the wrenegade: http://www.on3pskis.com/skis/wrenegade112/
Really happy with my KF Chairmans. I think they're sold out at the moment though.
Moment Governor.
Blizzard Bodacious (comes in a 196)
Faction Thirteen (i think this is the last year they're making them or I'm thinking about the Royal)
Volkl Shiro (comes 203cm if you're man enough)
just check out whatever the guys on the freeride world tour ski on.
I'm on an old pair of Armada ANTs (06 i think) and they are the most stable thing I've ever skied. Full camber, no rocker in a 191 with a flat tail. They just charge, may be a bit narrow for what your after though - 108 under foot.
From what I've been on, I'd say 4frnt yle or ON3P Jeffry. Lots of good options out there but those are two hard charges I've personally been on and love. Highly recommend.
Sounds like the Variant 113.
http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2015-2016-liberty-variant-113
freeballerSounds like the Variant 113.http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2015-2016-liberty-variant-113
+1 for the 113's. I have the 97's and they charge like a stolen credit card
Justo8484Based on ON3P's description of the ski, you might wanna look into the wrenegade: http://www.on3pskis.com/skis/wrenegade112/
I'll second this.
I've got a pair of 2013 Wrens in a 191, which are different to the 112s, but only slightly, so I feel I can still speak for their quality with some validity.
They're quick, and you can ski them fast with confidence. But at they same time they're still very manageable providing you're a solid skier. I first jumped on mine when I was 16, still sub 6 foot and fairly light, I'm now 6'0" and 190ish, but I never had trouble throwing them around quickly. I'm confident taking them out as a daily driver because they can handle tight trees and steep sections requiring billy goating whilst still allowing me to open up when the terrain or my balls allow me to, something you don't always find in a 'charging' ski.
Heres what you need OP:
Black Crows-Nocta
Faction-Candide 4.0 (recommend)
4FRNT-YLE
Moment-Governor
Praxis-RX
Atomic-Automatic
Line-Supernatural 115 or Sick Day 125
Icelantic-Keeper
Blizzard-Spur(maybe) and Gunsmokes
Rossignol-Super7 (stiff)
Hope these helped. Goodluck!
I've got the older version of the Faction Candide 4.0 (Royale), and they're pretty stiff and comfortable at speed, at least in my opinion.
.lenconFrom what I've been on, I'd say 4frnt yle or ON3P Jeffry. Lots of good options out there but those are two hard charges I've personally been on and love. Highly recommend.
So why was that downvoted? I mean if you guys actually have skied those skis you know they charge hard.
Holzsteezy*Heres what you need OP:Black Crows-Nocta
Faction-Candide 4.0 (recommend)
4FRNT-YLE
Moment-Governor
Praxis-RX
Atomic-Automatic
Line-Supernatural 115 or Sick Day 125
Icelantic-Keeper
Blizzard-Spur(maybe) and Gunsmokes
Rossignol-Super7 (stiff)
Hope these helped. Goodluck!
have you skied any of those? the super7 is the most overhyped ski i've ever been on. that ski has no balls at all, which is fine if you tend to have a very light on your feet, agile skiing style, but it's not the ski i'd wanna be on at all when it comes time to straightline some shit snow and just let em run.
Haven't ridden any of the skis mentioned above, but I found Volkl Gotamas a blast.
Justo8484have you skied any of those? the super7 is the most overhyped ski i've ever been on. that ski has no balls at all, which is fine if you tend to have a very light on your feet, agile skiing style, but it's not the ski i'd wanna be on at all when it comes time to straightline some shit snow and just let em run.
super soft 7
Justo8484have you skied any of those? the super7 is the most overhyped ski i've ever been on. that ski has no balls at all, which is fine if you tend to have a very light on your feet, agile skiing style, but it's not the ski i'd wanna be on at all when it comes time to straightline some shit snow and just let em run.
about half of them yes i have skied them. others on the list my buddies have or what my coach recommends for big mountain
.lenconSo why was that downvoted? I mean if you guys actually have skied those skis you know they charge hard.
While they may be great skiis these are more playful oriented freeride skis, it's a hefty amount of rocker. The OP asked for the hardest charging skis. There are skis that charge much harder than both those skis, and they aren't what he asked for.
Blizzard Cochise and volkl katana are skis that come to mind for hard charging
The Old Nordica 105s
Moment M1s
Belafontes
SuperBros
Ragnaroks
Stiff Bros
RC112s
Iggy anythings
Katana 198 if you can find it. Bittl still has 13/14 191s for €300.
I ski both lengths but the 198 is only for days when I know there is a lot of space and no-one will get in my way. 6ft4, 80kg.
Profahoben_212While they may be great skiis these are more playful oriented freeride skis, it's a hefty amount of rocker. The OP asked for the hardest charging skis. There are skis that charge much harder than both those skis, and they aren't what he asked for.
The yle honestly don't have that much rocker compared to other skis like ON3P. But you are right, there are other skis out there that would charge harder. But I've personally been on both and they got the job done very well, but then again I'm a small guy.
Huck_NorrisThe Old Nordica 105sMoment M1s
Belafontes
SuperBros
Ragnaroks
Stiff Bros
RC112s
Iggy anythings
I would add the 196 Bodacious and 193 EHP to the list as well.
The Cochise is fun, but everyone I know who has owned those has broken them within a few months. I like 4frnt Hoji's a lot. Some of my friends have Faction 13's and they all love them.
I haven't ridden the new cochise, but the 2011-2014 ones are easily the hardest charging ski I have been on
196 moment governors!!
My buddy has a set for sale in mint shape for CHEAP!!! PM me!
I'm rather fond of my 192 Dynastar Legend Pro 105's. They just mach it through anything on the front side of a mountain. They only fall apart on ice sheet groomed runs.
193 Nordica Helldorado. Two sheets of titanium and really damp with a shape that is twinish so you still have a freestyle shape but still rewards you for going fast as fuck over god damn fucking everything. You might end up making them daily drivers if you know how to drive skis.
last_tango193 Nordica Helldorado. Two sheets of titanium and really damp with a shape that is twinish so you still have a freestyle shape but still rewards you for going fast as fuck over god damn fucking everything. You might end up making them daily drivers if you know how to drive skis.
This... I bought my Patrons (same shape) as a dedicated pow ski but ended up loving them so much in every condition... Anyways I can vouch for the shape and say this might be your best option
My favorite pair of skis I have owned are my K2 Recoils in a 179. I went 70+ MPH on these center-mounted and have never felt more stable.