It's almost February. I'm seeing midseason edits everywhere.
And it feels like just yesterday was opening weekend
Jan 27 2015 2:11PM
Jan 27 2015 4:42PM
john18061806It's El Niño, there's no snow. This winter has sucked. It's basically a repeat of 2011-2012. Best we can hope for is a late spring and April snowstorms.
see, this year sucks for alaska (i have three inches of snow outside) but in 11-12 we had 9' of standing snow at my house, and alyeska (the only major resort, still 3 and a half hours away from me) was japan with almost 1000" inches of snow.
Jan 27 2015 5:14PM
to all the east coasters and midwesterners saying "all you spoiled guys out west have snow, be happy for that", i offer you this analogy.
You are the ugly fat awkward kid who is used to bagging fat ugly girls. Us westerners are the tall handsome athletic, witty studmuffins who are used to bagging 9s and 10s. certainly nothing below an 8. so when we show up to a party full of 4s and 5s, we are understandably unimpressed.
Its not that we are spoiled, its that we rightfully expect conditions that are above and beyond what you East of the rockies have any right to expect.
that said, this season is fucking wack. It just hasnt showed up at all.
Jan 27 2015 5:57PM
Same here in central BC. It was dumping in early January and now is +10C and I started to see some grass and dirt in a park, not even talking about backcountry. It's real abnormal weather this week, thanks Obama... Doh. It feels like it's spring and season is about to end even tho it's still January.
Jan 27 2015 5:59PM
Jan 27 2015 6:06PM
californiagrownto all the east coasters and midwesterners saying "all you spoiled guys out west have snow, be happy for that", i offer you this analogy.You are the ugly fat awkward kid who is used to bagging fat ugly girls. Us westerners are the tall handsome athletic, witty studmuffins who are used to bagging 9s and 10s. certainly nothing below an 8. so when we show up to a party full of 4s and 5s, we are understandably unimpressed.
Its not that we are spoiled, its that we rightfully expect conditions that are above and beyond what you East of the rockies have any right to expect.
that said, this season is fucking wack. It just hasnt showed up at all.
Dude get out of here. Midwest is the shit. Don't wanna hear your ski-snob-my-parents-own-a-huge-condo-and-I-play-football kinda attitude.
Jan 27 2015 6:34PM
Lus146Dude get out of here. Midwest is the shit. Don't wanna hear your ski-snob-my-parents-own-a-huge-condo-and-I-play-football kinda attitude.
i been had hoes i play sports.
but yeah i agree no one wants to hear people whine about not getting conditions they "deserve". whats wrong with us midwesterners being happy for what we got? we reserve the right to remain stoked over 2 inches of snow and man made snow.
Jan 27 2015 6:41PM
californiagrownto all the east coasters and midwesterners saying "all you spoiled guys out west have snow, be happy for that", i offer you this analogy.You are the ugly fat awkward kid who is used to bagging fat ugly girls. Us westerners are the tall handsome athletic, witty studmuffins who are used to bagging 9s and 10s. certainly nothing below an 8. so when we show up to a party full of 4s and 5s, we are understandably unimpressed.
Its not that we are spoiled, its that we rightfully expect conditions that are above and beyond what you East of the rockies have any right to expect.
that said, this season is fucking wack. It just hasnt showed up at all.
You're a dick
Jan 27 2015 6:44PM
Jan 27 2015 6:55PM
californiagrownto all the east coasters and midwesterners saying "all you spoiled guys out west have snow, be happy for that", i offer you this analogy.You are the ugly fat awkward kid who is used to bagging fat ugly girls. Us westerners are the tall handsome athletic, witty studmuffins who are used to bagging 9s and 10s. certainly nothing below an 8. so when we show up to a party full of 4s and 5s, we are understandably unimpressed.
Its not that we are spoiled, its that we rightfully expect conditions that are above and beyond what you East of the rockies have any right to expect.
that said, this season is fucking wack. It just hasnt showed up at all.
In places like Tahoe, its just a little bit more than having great skiing. Local economies are reliant on the tourism that the snow and skiing brings in, so when they have droughts like this, its pretty easy to see why everyone out west is pissed off. They're losing out on money, not just good skiing.
Jan 27 2015 6:59PM
SteezySmith57whats wrong with us midwesterners being happy for what we got? we reserve the right to remain stoked over 2 inches of snow and man made snow.
Absolutely nothing wrong with that, and you will never see me trying to harsh the stoke you guys have for that 2". thats all you know, all youve ever had to work with, and it is normal.
By the same token, don't expect someone from the West to get stoked on a 15" base and rain in late january. The conditions aren't comparable.
Jan 27 2015 7:03PM
DeebieSkeebiesIn places like Tahoe, its just a little bit more than having great skiing. Local economies are reliant on the tourism that the snow and skiing brings in, so when they have droughts like this, its pretty easy to see why everyone out west is pissed off. They're losing out on money, not just good skiing.
no kidding. there is no possible way that bear valley survives after this season.
Good thing that Tahoe's peak season is summer.
I just moved to WA and frankly a couple of the ski areas up here shouldnt be open. all the small businesses around Baker, and stevens and snoqualmie etc are getting killed, because winter IS the ONLY season for them. NOt to mention all the seasonal workers who arent working because of the low tide - low turnout.
Jan 27 2015 7:09PM
californiagrownsucks to hear the truth, huh? you all live in a shit area for what you have chosen to do as recreation. Our shit is your cream of the crop.Don't get so butthurt over facts you don't like. its reality.
Don't hate on my location bruhh. Just cause maybe our families aren't rich like yours or that we have a lot of family or an emotional attatchment to where we live doesn't mean you can just go and judge all of use mid west/east coast skiers.
Jan 27 2015 7:15PM
Lus146Don't hate on my location bruhh. Just cause maybe our families aren't rich like yours or that we have a lot of family or an emotional attatchment to where we live doesn't mean you can just go and judge all of use mid west/east coast skiers.
where are people getting this idea that my family or i am rich? haha. do you not understand that there is more to the western US than ski chalets, lol!
Facts cannot be hateful, bruhh. Where i currently live is super shitty for surfing. its not really a secret. Im cool with people saying that the surfing here sucks, whay are you not cool with people stating the fact that the skiing sucks where you live?
Jan 27 2015 7:21PM
californiagrownto all the east coasters and midwesterners saying "all you spoiled guys out west have snow, be happy for that", i offer you this analogy.You are the ugly fat awkward kid who is used to bagging fat ugly girls. Us westerners are the tall handsome athletic, witty studmuffins who are used to bagging 9s and 10s. certainly nothing below an 8. so when we show up to a party full of 4s and 5s, we are understandably unimpressed.
Its not that we are spoiled, its that we rightfully expect conditions that are above and beyond what you East of the rockies have any right to expect.
that said, this season is fucking wack. It just hasnt showed up at all.
i bet you're fun to talk to, but for real here in WI we haven't had a big dump and madison's got like 2-3 in which is not enough for good urban and i'm pissed
Jan 27 2015 7:47PM
californiagrownto all the east coasters and midwesterners saying "all you spoiled guys out west have snow, be happy for that", i offer you this analogy.You are the ugly fat awkward kid who is used to bagging fat ugly girls. Us westerners are the tall handsome athletic, witty studmuffins who are used to bagging 9s and 10s. certainly nothing below an 8. so when we show up to a party full of 4s and 5s, we are understandably unimpressed.
Its not that we are spoiled, its that we rightfully expect conditions that are above and beyond what you East of the rockies have any right to expect.
that said, this season is fucking wack. It just hasnt showed up at all.
I would rather ski in the Midwest than out west. I have been to Colorado and Utah several times...Missed good ol Granite Peak so much. We have a 50" base. Yes, 70% of it is man-made, but it's still a fucking blast. The people around here are awesome, the prices are low compared to Vail and Steamboat, and traveling is easy. I have more fun here than I have had anywhere else.
Jan 27 2015 7:57PM
DobberI would rather ski in the Midwest than out west. I have been to Colorado and Utah several times...Missed good ol Granite Peak so much. We have a 50" base. Yes, 70% of it is man-made, but it's still a fucking blast. The people around here are awesome, the prices are low compared to Vail and Steamboat, and traveling is easy. I have more fun here than I have had anywhere else.
Skiing needs its version of chubby chasers too. Keep getting after what makes you happy!!
Jan 27 2015 8:39PM
Jan 27 2015 9:05PM
Jan 27 2015 10:04PM
BOGS.Better analogy:Imagine the east coast/midwest as the unpopular kid in the school.
Then imagine the west coast as the big,popular,douchey, jock.
And one day some of the kids at school hang around the unpopular kid for once.
Yeah but that only occurs in high School Romcoms... and unfortunatley weather.
Jan 27 2015 10:49PM
Jan 27 2015 11:02PM
DeebieSkeebiesIn places like Tahoe, its just a little bit more than having great skiing. Local economies are reliant on the tourism that the snow and skiing brings in, so when they have droughts like this, its pretty easy to see why everyone out west is pissed off. They're losing out on money, not just good skiing.
The situation in the Sierra Nevada/California is bigger than the ski industry at this point. Sure, it sucks for the skiers and ski industry but fisheries, farmers, the 30 some odd million people that live there. At this point it's hard to feel for skiers and the tourism industry when one of the main growing regions in North America is on the brink of collapse.
I was actually hoping for an El Nino winter so that the Sierra Nevada got a proper snowpack this year but no... This year we get some sort of hybrid bullshit where Sierra Nevada are dry and it's warm and wet in BC/PNW. Years like this make me wish I was still a park rat.
Jan 27 2015 11:02PM
californiagrownYeah but that only occurs in high School Romcoms... and unfortunatley weather.
The fact that you aren't appreciative of the snow you get is what pisses me off. I don't give two shits about what you think you deserve because you live out west. You are in fact spoiled since you are USED to better snow, so if its not always great snow you complain, bitch, and moan. That is being spoiled, thinking you DESERVE the best. Be stoked on what you have instead of being a pretentious fuck
I also don't give a shit if you use facts to justify your reasoning. Skiing, no matter what its like, is the most fun when you make the best out of what you have I.e. east coast/Midwesterners.
I also realize I quoted the wrong reply but whatever you did, whether you are trolling or being serious, succeeded in making me butthurt.
Jan 27 2015 11:16PM
parkplaygroundThe fact that you aren't appreciative of the snow you get is what pisses me off. I don't give two shits about what you think you deserve because you live out west. You are in fact spoiled since you are USED to better snow, so if its not always great snow you complain, bitch, and moan. That is being spoiled, thinking you DESERVE the best. Be stoked on what you have instead of being a pretentious fuckI also don't give a shit if you use facts to justify your reasoning. Skiing, no matter what its like, is the most fun when you make the best out of what you have I.e. east coast/Midwesterners.
I also realize I quoted the wrong reply but whatever you did, whether you are trolling or being serious, succeeded in making me butthurt.
You guys aren't getting it. The mountains where I ski take about a 150cm base before things start to fill in properly to the point we can ski them. We aren't unappreciative of the snow we get more so we aren't getting the snow we need. I grew up in Ontario and you don't even need snow to fall there - you just need cold temps and boom, you're in business. The past two years Blue Mountain, Ontario has had a longer season than most hills in BC.
Combine that with the temperature spikes we have gotten in BC/PNW this year and shit gets really shitty. All but one storm that has come through this winter has a warm spike at the tail end resulting in rain to the top of the mountains - which sucks. Of course, it wouldn't be SO bad if we didn't get a cold, dry snap after that which freezes everything making most terrain unskiable and makes for a dangerous layer avalanche wise for when the next storm comes.
Simple fact is that things are different in the mountains and when are used to having amazing skiing with amazing snow, it's a harsh toke when we are pretty much on standby for months on end. Yeah sure, my local hill has a base of 170cm right now, but nothing is skiable (in bounds, or out). If all you care about it groomers and park it's not so bad, but we don't live in the PNW/BC to ski groomers. Hell, the closest park that is worth riding is almost 5 hours away, and if I had to resort to ski groomers all winter I'd rather go to Mexico and hang out at the beach.
WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID: I have been around for enough winters to not really stress about the weather: You gotta roll with the punches. I'm just bringing clarity to what is being said here.
Jan 27 2015 11:35PM
DrailYou guys aren't getting it. The mountains where I ski take about a 150cm base before things start to fill in properly to the point we can ski them. We aren't unappreciative of the snow we get more so we aren't getting the snow we need. I grew up in Ontario and you don't even need snow to fall there - you just need cold temps and boom, you're in business. The past two years Blue Mountain, Ontario has had a longer season than most hills in BC.Combine that with the temperature spikes we have gotten in BC/PNW this year and shit gets really shitty. All but one storm that has come through this winter has a warm spike at the tail end resulting in rain to the top of the mountains - which sucks. Of course, it wouldn't be SO bad if we didn't get a cold, dry snap after that which freezes everything making most terrain unskiable and makes for a dangerous layer avalanche wise for when the next storm comes.
Simple fact is that things are different in the mountains and when are used to having amazing skiing with amazing snow, it's a harsh toke when we are pretty much on standby for months on end. Yeah sure, my local hill has a base of 170cm right now, but nothing is skiable (in bounds, or out). If all you care about it groomers and park it's not so bad, but we don't live in the PNW/BC to ski groomers. Hell, the closest park that is worth riding is almost 5 hours away, and if I had to resort to ski groomers all winter I'd rather go to Mexico and hang out at the beach.
WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID: I have been around for enough winters to not really stress about the weather: You gotta roll with the punches. I'm just bringing clarity to what is being said here.
nah dude, youre just being unappreciative of this drought. spoiled-ass westerner.
just kidding, youre absolutely spot on.
Jan 27 2015 11:55PM
DrailYou guys aren't getting it. The mountains where I ski take about a 150cm base before things start to fill in properly to the point we can ski them. We aren't unappreciative of the snow we get more so we aren't getting the snow we need. I grew up in Ontario and you don't even need snow to fall there - you just need cold temps and boom, you're in business. The past two years Blue Mountain, Ontario has had a longer season than most hills in BC.Combine that with the temperature spikes we have gotten in BC/PNW this year and shit gets really shitty. All but one storm that has come through this winter has a warm spike at the tail end resulting in rain to the top of the mountains - which sucks. Of course, it wouldn't be SO bad if we didn't get a cold, dry snap after that which freezes everything making most terrain unskiable and makes for a dangerous layer avalanche wise for when the next storm comes.
Simple fact is that things are different in the mountains and when are used to having amazing skiing with amazing snow, it's a harsh toke when we are pretty much on standby for months on end. Yeah sure, my local hill has a base of 170cm right now, but nothing is skiable (in bounds, or out). If all you care about it groomers and park it's not so bad, but we don't live in the PNW/BC to ski groomers. Hell, the closest park that is worth riding is almost 5 hours away, and if I had to resort to ski groomers all winter I'd rather go to Mexico and hang out at the beach.
WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID: I have been around for enough winters to not really stress about the weather: You gotta roll with the punches. I'm just bringing clarity to what is being said here.
That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification and explaining without the arrogance that calliforniagrown was radiating. and I'm not talking about this year specifically. Californiagrown seemed to, from my understanding, complain about any weather that isn't regularly bringing in the freshies. I have family that lives in steamboat and since they were originally east coasters, they know what real ice is and I hear a lot about how spoiled the people out there are, so I'm not ranting purely off of assumption, or atleast not trying to anyway.
Jan 28 2015 12:35AM
parkplaygroundThat makes sense. Thanks for the clarification and explaining without the arrogance that calliforniagrown was radiating. and I'm not talking about this year specifically. Californiagrown seemed to, from my understanding, complain about any weather that isn't regularly bringing in the freshies. I have family that lives in steamboat and since they were originally east coasters, they know what real ice is and I hear a lot about how spoiled the people out there are, so I'm not ranting purely off of assumption, or atleast not trying to anyway.
You sound bitter about how shitty your best conditions are.
Jan 28 2015 2:30AM
ski-hippiethat huge blizzard in the east coast is missing western NY. Im so pissed. Theres no snow in the trees. We need to sacrifice bfish to the snow gods
lol dude it's been in single digits for the past 3 weeks. Wny isn't hurting at all. Conditions are perfect right now. And idk about you but there's plenty of snow in the trees at peek n peak. And we've been getting 2-5 inches of snow every couple of days. This season hasnt been bad at all this year.
Jan 28 2015 5:52AM
Jan 28 2015 12:34PM
To reiterate the point that just because there is snow on the ground doesn't mean we are having a good season: Woke up this morning to find out the Cold Rush is postponed until some time in March because conditions are too shitty to ski any kind of terrain that isn't a groomer. Same goes with last year when the FWT stop in Revy never happened due to shitty conditions even though we had snowpack that was up to 3M in spots.
We are really really sensitive to temperature fluctuations here.