ZimmermanSo say you met a cop who was a total cock; someone who you would give no respect to otherwise. You're saying you would respect that person solely because he is wearing a badge. And I think that's just stupid.

I think we're done here.

No, I would respect him initially because of his badge, then realize he is a dick and walk away if I could. If it were a random dude giving me shit, I would just tell him to fuck off and then walk away.

Regardless, I would not judge all cops off of this one bad cops action. I would not see a cop and immediately associate every cop with the bad one.

.MASSHOLE.No, I would respect him initially because of his badge, then realize he is a dick and walk away if I could. If it were a random dude giving me shit, I would just tell him to fuck off and then walk away.

Regardless, I would not judge all cops off of this one bad cops action. I would not see a cop and immediately associate every cop with the bad one.

I'd respect him initially for his humanity with a weary eye due to the badge.

Neither would I. That's not what I'm doing. That would be stupid too.

I'm not sure about the States, but I know in Canada the process for applying and training to become a cop is both long and incredibly strenuous... it's not like some uneducated bum can walk in off the street and walk out the next day with a badge and a gun. At least try to show some respect for the work they put in to become officers

plyswthsqrrlsI'm not sure about the States, but I know in Canada the process for applying and training to become a cop is both long and incredibly strenuous... it's not like some uneducated bum can walk in off the street and walk out the next day with a badge and a gun. At least try to show some respect for the work they put in to become officers

I think its different for each state, but its definitely not easy here either

plyswthsqrrlsI'm not sure about the States, but I know in Canada the process for applying and training to become a cop is both long and incredibly strenuous... it's not like some uneducated bum can walk in off the street and walk out the next day with a badge and a gun. At least try to show some respect for the work they put in to become officers

the process varies a lot in the states. For example a state trooper goes through a bunch of evaluations- both mentally and physically. They also must have a 4-year degree (or the equivalent in college credits).

Village police though for example only need a high school diploma. Their interview process and evals not as rigorous. Still respectable of course - just sharing an example

louie.miragsthe process varies a lot in the states. For example a state trooper goes through a bunch of evaluations- both mentally and physically. They also must have a 4-year degree (or the equivalent in college credits).

Village police though for example only need a high school diploma. Their interview process and evals not as rigorous. Still respectable of course - just sharing an example

State law enforcement is rigorous. It is the townie cops that got the job because they goofed off in the early stages of their lives. Some cops are great, some are on a power trip, I would say most are just trying to do their jobs the best they can. It is the few power tripping ones that give the rest a bad name.

soulskierI can't think of a single reason why anyone getting out of high school right now would want to become a cop, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a bit of a shortage in the next few years

Honestly, I totally would consider it if I was young. Great benefits, good pay and job security if you aren't a total fuckup. It feels good to help people and the cops I know who are great guys really do make a positive impact in their communities.

Huck_NorrisHonestly, I totally would consider it if I was young. Great benefits, good pay and job security if you aren't a total fuckup. It feels good to help people and the cops I know who are great guys really do make a positive impact in their communities.

And before you know it you are the bad moustachioed father of a sulky morose teenage girl who can't physically close her mouth and has no clear identifiable emotions, who will wilfully engage in a complicated love triangle with a 100 year old sparkly shovel face and a lama with abs who can transform in a big dog.

AT-ATState law enforcement is rigorous. It is the townie cops that got the job because they goofed off in the early stages of their lives. Some cops are great, some are on a power trip, I would say most are just trying to do their jobs the best they can. It is the few power tripping ones that give the rest a bad name.

for sure... I have 1 buddy who went thru last years NYSP training and one who is in the running now for next years class. I also worked for the village police as a dispatcher in college and saw what they went thru and the types of backgrounds they had. I also have one buddy NYPD and see the shit he goes thru. He is even in a few youtube videos where people are highlighting police brutality. I really don't want to share it though because it will everyone mad. Whether you support the police, or the people, in the videos both sides have a point.

Huck_NorrisHonestly, I totally would consider it if I was young. Great benefits, good pay and job security if you aren't a total fuckup. It feels good to help people and the cops I know who are great guys really do make a positive impact in their communities.

When I worked at the village police they wanted me to take the test because I was a good employee and a veteran. I just couldn't become a cop. After seeing the shit on a daily basis they go through. They literally dealt with the scumiest of scum on a daily occurrence. The village I worked in was small, but sections were POOR as fuck! Tons and tons of section 8 housing and a bunch of half way houses for criminals. The village police also made money because a lot of high level sex offenders were put in housing there after leaving prison. And seriously, to deal with those people daily it is no wonder some of them were miserable. The whole time I was there not one call came from the middle class residential area. This is an exaggerated case though because of the conditions of the village. If they didn't have so many transitioning felons living in the village it would have not been as bad.

Not to mention 12 hour shifts and so much mandatory overtime. If you're a young cop you better believe you're doing the 6pm tp 6am shift for your early years. And every holiday. The pros do not outweigh the cons IMO

louie.miragsWhen I worked at the village police they wanted me to take the test because I was a good employee and a veteran. I just couldn't become a cop. After seeing the shit on a daily basis they go through. They literally dealt with the scumiest of scum on a daily occurrence. The village I worked in was small, but sections were POOR as fuck! Tons and tons of section 8 housing and a bunch of half way houses for criminals. The village police also made money because a lot of high level sex offenders were put in housing there after leaving prison. And seriously, to deal with those people daily it is no wonder some of them were miserable. The whole time I was there not one call came from the middle class residential area. This is an exaggerated case though because of the conditions of the village. If they didn't have so many transitioning felons living in the village it would have not been as bad.

Not to mention 12 hour shifts and so much mandatory overtime. If you're a young cop you better believe you're doing the 6pm tp 6am shift for your early years. And every holiday. The pros do not outweigh the cons IMO

Oh I understand the situation many urban cops face, but I was more speaking of rural or suburban areas. It's a great thing to get into if you can put in the time.

Urban cops get the shit end of the stick bigtime though, the pieces of shit they have to deal with make the job really suck. It's dangerous, unpredictable work and it gets worse the more fucked up your area is. One of my best friend's father was shot and killed in the line of duty when we were kids, so the scum factor has not been lost on me.

I think the biggest deterent would be the widespread angst again law enforcement in general

I'm sure there are a few feel good stories but lately everything I've seen in the news seems to be anti-police

I still see it as a noble profession but on a nationwide scale it would take a special person to want to get into it

And, of course, two white cops are killed by two white people assassination style and the media doesn't even bat an eye.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/09/las-vegas-shooting-officers-dead-possible-white-supremacists/

shocker611And, of course, two white cops are killed by two white people assassination style and the media doesn't even bat an eye.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/09/las-vegas-shooting-officers-dead-possible-white-supremacists/

I see your point but it is a foxnews article. Doesn't really get much more mainstream than that.

louie.miragsI see your point but it is a foxnews article. Doesn't really get much more mainstream than that.

It's not on their main new coverage from what I've seen. Only found that from searching for it.

shocker611It's not on their main new coverage from what I've seen. Only found that from searching for it.

it was in June though. You will have to search for the NYPD article in 6 months as well. I am not sticking up for the media here in the slighest btw. It can be argued that the media blowing up the Fergurson stories and the Garner case is what got the suspect riled up enough to kill those two cops. But then again our society couldn't get enough of the media coverage on it. So who is really to blame? The media makes tons of money off of horrible events, but people tune in.

kshaughnBe more of a liberal pussy. You can't. This isn't a race problem, it is a criminal problem. Brown and Garner are dead because they assaulted cops and resisted arrest. If you don't break the law, the cops won't have any reason to arrest you. And if you are getting arrested, don't fight back. We have a stupidity problem in this country. You only care about Brown and Garner because your stupid MSNBC told you to. I bet you don't care how two black kids killed two random white people in St. Louis right after Brown died. Also 80% of black gun related deaths are black on black violence, but I'm sure that means nothing to you since it doesn't fit your agenda.

DAMN STRAIGHT SON! YOU STEAL SOME CIGS, TRY RUNNIN, IT BETTER END WITH A BULLET DEEP IN YOUR TISSUE. lol dont break the law and theyll leave you alone lolololololololol. please. i hope more cops get blasted. too many pigs in the pen.

Lord_ByronDAMN STRAIGHT SON! YOU STEAL SOME CIGS, TRY RUNNIN, IT BETTER END WITH A BULLET DEEP IN YOUR TISSUE. lol dont break the law and theyll leave you alone lolololololololol. please. i hope more cops get blasted. too many pigs in the pen.

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and lion, i think that:

a. we have too many cops, with too much power, that are too ingrained in the same political systems meant to check them to ever be accountable.

b. those cops are motivated and instructed to follow policies and use discretion that takes away from a portion of the populations rights.

c. those rights matter more than the cop's (or anyone's) lives. If killing cops leads to true equality, i want to see them dead. None of you get up in arms when an innocent 5 year old in Yemen gets blown up by a drone, but 2 cops!?!?!? WITH GUNS?!?!?! OH MY STARS! #worsttragedyever

d. white people are totally incapable of being told they are part of a problem, or being told that they are just as worth just as much or little as every other member of humanity. 1/7,000,000,000 = jack shit.

e. within half a century, white people will be the minority. The fact that that statement pisses people off is the real problem.

Lord_Byronand lion, i think that:

a. we have too many cops, with too much power, that are too ingrained in the same political systems meant to check them to ever be accountable.

b. those cops are motivated and instructed to follow policies and use discretion that takes away from a portion of the populations rights.

c. those rights matter more than the cop's (or anyone's) lives. If killing cops leads to true equality, i want to see them dead. None of you get up in arms when an innocent 5 year old in Yemen gets blown up by a drone, but 2 cops!?!?!? WITH GUNS?!?!?! OH MY STARS! #worsttragedyever

d. white people are totally incapable of being told they are part of a problem, or being told that they are just as worth just as much or little as every other member of humanity. 1/7,000,000,000 = jack shit.

e. within half a century, white people will be the minority. The fact that that statement pisses people off is the real problem.

preach

Yupp. If I were in a theoretical situation in which I had to choose who lives between a cop and a non cop, I would let the cop die every single time providing there was no other way out. I don't want people getting killed in general, but I sure do find myself less sad when officers die.

Lord_Byronand lion, i think that:

a. we have too many cops, with too much power, that are too ingrained in the same political systems meant to check them to ever be accountable.

b. those cops are motivated and instructed to follow policies and use discretion that takes away from a portion of the populations rights.

c. those rights matter more than the cop's (or anyone's) lives. If killing cops leads to true equality, i want to see them dead. None of you get up in arms when an innocent 5 year old in Yemen gets blown up by a drone, but 2 cops!?!?!? WITH GUNS?!?!?! OH MY STARS! #worsttragedyever

d. white people are totally incapable of being told they are part of a problem, or being told that they are just as worth just as much or little as every other member of humanity. 1/7,000,000,000 = jack shit.

e. within half a century, white people will be the minority. The fact that that statement pisses people off is the real problem.

Is this a real opinion? Like this has to be a troll right? Violence to end violence never works. More darknest does end the night, only the light can do that.

What you are preaching for is a race war. You have divided the sides and left yourself the side that has less people and less power and less wealth (you preach that statement) and then you want a war? That is a violent war that you cannot win.

The fact that you have divided the sides is the most racist thing of all. You are placing someone's value at a lesser because they are white.

AT-ATIs this a real opinion? Like this has to be a troll right? Violence to end violence never works. More darknest does end the night, only the light can do that.

What you are preaching for is a race war. You have divided the sides and left yourself the side that has less people and less power and less wealth (you preach that statement) and then you want a war? That is a violent war that you cannot win.

The fact that you have divided the sides is the most racist thing of all. You are placing someone's value at a lesser because they are white.

So what you're saying, is if a minority finds itself getting screwed, they should roll over for the good of the majority? The majority is always right? If the majority is doing something wrong, no one should question them because they're unbeatable? Go back to France.

And please, desperation is a hell of a lot better motivation than the nothing that motivates people that can sit back and relax.

I don't "want a race war", I want equality. I want innocent white people, black people, Mexicans and Asians all to be shot by cops at the same rate.

And if it takes a few dead cops to start to make that more real, then that's what it takes. Im placing them at a lesser value than a group of people's rights. As the abusers that contribute to the problem, they should be signing up to shoot each other. And its not all race, there's plenty of black cops that have the same mentality.

And honestly, its more a difference of wealth than race. Poor white people have to deal with a ton of the same shit, but there's just proportionately a lot more really poor black people than white people.

I just think all the outrage is just fear that the top is losing its power, if black people arent afraid of the cops, whats left to keep the monkey's in line? Because theres a ton of black people who would slit all of your throats for a year in your shoes. You should be thankful its the cops they're going after and not just rich white people, although that would be dope af.

lastly, whites can't take criticism. At all. Rule number one is don't make the white man sweat. Been doing that for too long, time to make a few of em bleed.

This thread went from disgusting, to horrid. All lives matter, doesn't matter if they're blue, black, white or yellow. It doesn't matter. Sure, some of you probably have a valid reason to hate the police. but for the most part they're doing a thankless, difficult job dealing with the scum of the earth daily.

Ralph_SwaggumThis thread went from disgusting, to horrid. All lives matter, doesn't matter if they're blue, black, white or yellow. It doesn't matter. Sure, some of you probably have a valid reason to hate the police. but for the most part they're doing a thankless, difficult job dealing with the scum of the earth daily.

maybe if we focused on creating less scum wed need fewer cops to deal with it.

Lord_Byronmaybe if we focused on creating less scum wed need fewer cops to deal with it.

jesus man you just get worse and worse... it's christmas why dont you play nicely for once.

ZimmermanYupp. If I were in a theoretical situation in which I had to choose who lives between a cop and a non cop, I would let the cop die every single time providing there was no other way out. I don't want people getting killed in general, but I sure do find myself less sad when officers die.

So just to wrap my head around one of the most idiotic things I've heard in a long time, you'd rather see a policeman, whose job is to protect and serve his community, die than the criminal/thug that contributes nothing positive to society and would kill innocent people?

I know Christmas is almost over, but can I interest you in a one way ticket to Syria?

Now all the whites will be the ones looting and rioting.

ZimmermanYupp. If I were in a theoretical situation in which I had to choose who lives between a cop and a non cop, I would let the cop die every single time providing there was no other way out. I don't want people getting killed in general, but I sure do find myself less sad when officers die.

Compared to what a random gang member? some one who has broken societies rules and instead you are content with some one dying who actually does something productive for society rather than ripping it down? Congrats.

Of course you all jump to that conclusion. Guess I should have been more specific; excuse me. An average person assumed to have lived cleanly, no misdemeanors. You get the idea.

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tripnipCompared to what a random gang member? some one who has broken societies rules and instead you are content with some one dying who actually does something productive for society rather than ripping it down? Congrats.

Well, I look at it as cops dying pretty much the same as any other citizens. The best scenario would be no murders at all. But, I find Garner dying just as sad for his family and community as the policeman's family and community.

louie.miragsWell, I look at it as cops dying pretty much the same as any other citizens. The best scenario would be no murders at all. But, I find Garner dying just as sad for his family and community as the policeman's family and community.

But Garner made no positive contributions to society, got arrested 31 times in his life, and had like five or six that he couldn't afford to have. The two cops had never been accused of doing something wrong and were day in and day out risking their lives for their community and people they don't know.

You only care about Garner because he's black and you think you should because the media told you to. Criminals die everyday but you don't feel bad about them. He has also not done anything in his life to help his community or leave a positive mark on society.

kshaughnYou only care about Garner because he's black and you think you should because the media told you to. Criminals die everyday but you don't feel bad about them. He has also not done anything in his life to help his community or leave a positive mark on society.

No man what I said was each death is just as sad for their respected communities. Not that I actually feel saddened. The police being killed is horrible. So is the police accidentally choking out a dude to death.

louie.miragsNo man what I said was each death is just as sad for their respected communities. Not that I actually feel saddened. The police being killed is horrible. So is the police accidentally choking out a dude to death.

Oh gotcha I misread your previous comment. I'll agree with that.

Lord_Byronand lion, i think that:

a. we have too many cops, with too much power, that are too ingrained in the same political systems meant to check them to ever be accountable.

b. those cops are motivated and instructed to follow policies and use discretion that takes away from a portion of the populations rights.

c. those rights matter more than the cop's (or anyone's) lives. If killing cops leads to true equality, i want to see them dead. None of you get up in arms when an innocent 5 year old in Yemen gets blown up by a drone, but 2 cops!?!?!? WITH GUNS?!?!?! OH MY STARS! #worsttragedyever

d. white people are totally incapable of being told they are part of a problem, or being told that they are just as worth just as much or little as every other member of humanity. 1/7,000,000,000 = jack shit.

e. within half a century, white people will be the minority. The fact that that statement pisses people off is the real problem.

It's a shame because there's a real argument and point to be made here, but your stupidity, hypocrisy, and irrationality makes it very clear you are just not the right person to be making it. It really is too bad.

Lord_Byronand lion, i think that:

a. we have too many cops, with too much power, that are too ingrained in the same political systems meant to check them to ever be accountable.

b. those cops are motivated and instructed to follow policies and use discretion that takes away from a portion of the populations rights.

c. those rights matter more than the cop's (or anyone's) lives. If killing cops leads to true equality, i want to see them dead. None of you get up in arms when an innocent 5 year old in Yemen gets blown up by a drone, but 2 cops!?!?!? WITH GUNS?!?!?! OH MY STARS! #worsttragedyever

d. white people are totally incapable of being told they are part of a problem, or being told that they are just as worth just as much or little as every other member of humanity. 1/7,000,000,000 = jack shit.

e. within half a century, white people will be the minority. The fact that that statement pisses people off is the real problem.

It's a shame because there's a real argument and point to be made here, but your stupidity, hypocrisy, and irrationality makes it very clear you are just not the right person to be making it. It really is too bad.

WattsIt's a shame because there's a real argument and point to be made here, but your stupidity, hypocrisy, and irrationality makes it very clear you are just not the right person to be making it. It really is too bad.

The dope thing about america is I canale any argument I want, however I want, whenever I want.

Fuck the 5-0, and fuck any one who loves em.

Stop snitchin.

Lord_ByronThe dope thing about america is I canale any argument I want, however I want, whenever I want.

Fuck the 5-0, and fuck any one who loves em.

Stop snitchin.

Can you go celebrate Kwanzaa with your adopted family yet? You're taking up space on the internet.

Lord_ByronFuck the 5-0, and fuck any one who loves em.

Stop snitchin.

Lord_ByronThe dope thing about america is I canale any argument I want, however I want, whenever I want.

Fuck the 5-0, and fuck any one who loves em.

Stop snitchin.

Holy shit I want to say stuff so badly right now but i'd probably get banned.

So fuck you. You're a douche.

Lord_ByronThe dope thing about america is I canale any argument I want, however I want, whenever I want.

Fuck the 5-0, and fuck any one who loves em.

Stop snitchin.

You're right, but you sound most similar to the white protesters who don't really understand the issue, don't actually care, have no real idea what they want to change, and are only protesting to be loud, to be seen, and to be fashionable. So don't be surprised if nobody you encounter, except these white protestor types, take you seriously.

WattsYou're right, but you sound most similar to the white protesters who don't really understand the issue, don't actually care, have no real idea what they want to change, and are only protesting to be loud, to be seen, and to be fashionable. So don't be surprised if nobody you encounter, except these white protestor types, take you seriously.

That's why I don't protest, rich white internet kids react wayyyy better.

Lord_ByronThat's why I don't protest, rich white internet kids react wayyyy better.

You got adopted by a (probably) rich white family. You're a fake. Shut the hell up.

Lord_ByronThat's why I don't protest, rich white internet kids react wayyyy better.

So...you're just trolling and don't actually care about any of this? Can't say I'm all that surprised considering the content of your posts.

BombogenesisYou got adopted by a (probably) rich white family. You're a fake. Shut the hell up.

WattsSo...you're just trolling and don't actually care about any of this? Can't say I'm all that surprised considering the content of your posts.

I consider them lower upper class.

No I care very deeply, its more like a 2 for 1. I get to express the right opinion AND watch uncomfortable trust funders lose their shit.

Lord_ByronI consider them lower upper class.

No I care very deeply, its more like a 2 for 1. I get to express the right opinion AND watch uncomfortable trust funders lose their shit.

Fakeeeee!!!

FAKKKEEEEEEEE

HES A FAKE

Lord_ByronSo what you're saying, is if a minority finds itself getting screwed, they should roll over for the good of the majority? The majority is always right? If the majority is doing something wrong, no one should question them because they're unbeatable? Go back to France.

And please, desperation is a hell of a lot better motivation than the nothing that motivates people that can sit back and relax.

I don't "want a race war", I want equality. I want innocent white people, black people, Mexicans and Asians all to be shot by cops at the same rate.

And if it takes a few dead cops to start to make that more real, then that's what it takes. Im placing them at a lesser value than a group of people's rights. As the abusers that contribute to the problem, they should be signing up to shoot each other. And its not all race, there's plenty of black cops that have the same mentality.

And honestly, its more a difference of wealth than race. Poor white people have to deal with a ton of the same shit, but there's just proportionately a lot more really poor black people than white people.

I just think all the outrage is just fear that the top is losing its power, if black people arent afraid of the cops, whats left to keep the monkey's in line? Because theres a ton of black people who would slit all of your throats for a year in your shoes. You should be thankful its the cops they're going after and not just rich white people, although that would be dope af.

lastly, whites can't take criticism. At all. Rule number one is don't make the white man sweat. Been doing that for too long, time to make a few of em bleed.

Aren't you white? Your a fucking idiot too by the way

Lord_ByronI consider them lower upper class.

No I care very deeply, its more like a 2 for 1. I get to express the right opinion AND watch uncomfortable trust funders lose their shit.

what the fuck is the lower upper class? that makes zero sense. you're trying to say upper middle class