ethanfrayneWhat do you think NS?

You need to learn how to spell

ethanfrayneWhat do you think NS?

All I see is boring text. Wheres all the child pr0n?

I think that the students have all the right in the world to sue the school district. The school district has no right, without reasonable suspicion, to log into students personal accounts.

HOWEVER, one might want to read into the fine print of the wifi/internet student usage agreement that I'm sure each student at stoney creek hs had to sign prior to logging in for the first time.

"Go Anonymous on there ass!"

what kind of fucked up user agreement makes kids put down passwords to shit? fuck that.

basedjaseHOWEVER, one might want to read into the fine print of the wifi/internet student usage agreement that I'm sure each student at stoney creek hs had to sign prior to logging in for the first time.

This.

The school wouldn't go into this next level creeepy shit without covering their asses first. Not saying they're in the right, but you may have signed something saying they're allowed to do it.

Also, what kind of school offers wifi to their students? That seems counterproductive to no phone policies.

TheSeaCaptainThis.

The school wouldn't go into this next level creeepy shit without covering their asses first. Not saying they're in the right, but you may have signed something saying they're allowed to do it.

Also, what kind of school offers wifi to their students? That seems counterproductive to no phone policies.

not to mention (at least from my own personal experiences) when those agreements get passed out in class, everyone just throws them into their bags for their parents to sign when they get home. i never read my user agreements, and im sure tons of people haven't which leads to schools pulling some fucking shady-ass shit.

TheSeaCaptainThis.

The school wouldn't go into this next level creeepy shit without covering their asses first. Not saying they're in the right, but you may have signed something saying they're allowed to do it.

Also, what kind of school offers wifi to their students? That seems counterproductive to no phone policies.

Some schools require you to have ipads and computers. What would be the point of having those without wifi? To take notes? HA!

theBearJewSome schools require you to have ipads and computers. What would be the point of having those without wifi? To take notes? HA!

........schools can require that shit now? What if you can't afford an iPad?

P.s. I feel fucking old.

TheSeaCaptainThis.

The school wouldn't go into this next level creeepy shit without covering their asses first. Not saying they're in the right, but you may have signed something saying they're allowed to do it.

Also, what kind of school offers wifi to their students? That seems counterproductive to no phone policies.

What schools still have no phone policies? And how are you supposed to research stuff without internet on your computer? Like what else are you gonna do in class when your working on something, type from memory of earlier research?

TheSeaCaptain........schools can require that shit now? What if you can't afford an iPad?

Serially. My little bro needed an iPad for school, and we were wondering why and what if he preferred actual books and the school would have none of it. They seemed surprised you would prefer paper to a screen... So they simply said it was required and left it at that. I am amazed that technology is this good to have libraries literally in your pocket, but what if a student learns better by highlighting and writing and reading on paper. I sure as hell work better that way, and it hurts my eyes to be on a screen all day (and that is coming from me the engineer that is on a screen all day regardless).

children do not have the same rights as adults. too bad so sad OP!

OK, so according to these news sources:

patch.com/michigan/rochester/rochester-area-teens-could-face-felonies-sexting#.VD74zfldVAI

http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/oakland-county/students-could-be-facing-felony-charges-for-sexting

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/26787738/teens-could-face-felony-charges-for-sexting-cases-at-three-local-schools

there's no mention of the school sniffing/cracking passwords. they all say the girls went to the administration because the pics were getting out of hand and spread around.

the chick/chicks who ratted probably just came up with that ruse to cover their asses...seems to have worked on OP. there's no need for such elaborate IT "hacks" when some 15 year old girl rats on everybody.

either way that icloud exploit was patched looooong ago.

TheSeaCaptainP.s. I feel fucking old.

at the start of this year 100% of students at my old high school have iPads which they keep for the entire school year and can take home etc. I would be so sketched about looking at porn or checking NS on those..

they started with a couple AP classes my junior and senior year and have expanded since then I guess.

Oh look another clueless and spoiled HS student spreading rumors and blowing the actual events way out of proportion! That never happens in high school!

But really though, if you believed that then why the fuck are you still using your phone at school? Since when did it become impossible to socialize with your friends without using your smart phone 80% of the time? You kids are pathetic and deserve everything bad that happens to you.

anyone who shares nudes on their email is fucking retarted. I dont agree with the school for combing passwords because thats a load of shit, but lets not get our titties in a jam because kid couldnt get into his gmail account quick enough that he logged into at school that had illegal things in it. at least he didnt fax it over or anything

they got FELANYS ?

-emile-they got FELANYS ?

sounds kinky... do want

I've basically just realized and accepted that stepping foot inside a school means getting the majority of your rights being taken away

TheSeaCaptain........schools can require that shit now? What if you can't afford an iPad?

TheSeaCaptainP.s. I feel fucking old.

yeah what is this shit, I didn't have a phone until senior year of high school. that shit could call, and if I was lucky, send a text that took me 2 minutes to type

CorinWhat schools still have no phone policies? And how are you supposed to research stuff without internet on your computer? Like what else are you gonna do in class when your working on something, type from memory of earlier research?

why the fuck do you need a computer in school? use a fucking book, more reliable than the onion and wikipedia like most of the sources you 12 year olds use.

CorinWhat schools still have no phone policies? And how are you supposed to research stuff without internet on your computer? Like what else are you gonna do in class when your working on something, type from memory of earlier research?

I have lost all hope in humanity. As soon as the power goes out, you will die within 2 days guaranteed. "omg what do i do to survive!? i don't have google!!! i guess i will sit here and do nothing until i can have internets again."

This isn't even possible. Passwords are sent using SSL encryption, the school wouldn't be able to get unencrypted passwords to use to get into people's accounts as they travel over their network.

Maybe your dumbshit classmates should stop sending nude photos to each other when they're underage.

How the hell can a school think they would have gotten away with that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbins_v._Lower_Merion_School_District

On a sort of related note, I used to work with this chick that got suspended for sending 'naughty' emails on her school owned laptop.

CorinWhat schools still have no phone policies? And how are you supposed to research stuff without internet on your computer? Like what else are you gonna do in class when your working on something, type from memory of earlier research?

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I hate to go all "back in my day" on you, but I'm pretty sure you still have legs and I'd put money on your school having a library. Or at least a computer lab.

Jesus Christ is this generation ACTUALLY helpless without a computer? Please tell me this isn't everyone's response.

JSONOn a sort of related note, I used to work with this chick that got suspended for sending 'naughty' emails on her school owned laptop.

Doing it on school grounds and on owned school property is one thing. Going into someones account with them not present because you have their password is very illegal.

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I hate to go all "back in my day" on you, but I'm pretty sure you still have legs and I'd put money on your school having a library. Or at least a computer lab.

Jesus Christ is this generation ACTUALLY helpless without a computer? Please tell me this isn't everyone's response.

I graduated in 2013, so it's not that new. The school I went to did not have a library or a computer lab. I think it was like 2006 or 2007 that some municipalities required that high schools provided every student with a laptop and wifi at school. In Sweden we have a very strict policy about school being free, so you can't demand that students have computers and internet connectivity at home, therefore this was a smart choice.

And to the whole helpless thing and me not being able to do anything without internet or computers, I'd like to say that this was school-work. We learned about the same things you learn about in other schools, we just knew how to find information easier and quicker. A big part of everything we did was also critical thinking, questioning different sources of information (like Wikipedia obviously). Using a computer for typing and finding information doesn't mean that you can't survive in a power outage or be in the outdoors or something. It's like saying since you use ski lifts and sleds to get up the mountains instead of walking/touring, you don't know anything about avalanches. They are different things entirely.

proZachyeah what is this shit, I didn't have a phone until senior year of high school. that shit could call, and if I was lucky, send a text that took me 2 minutes to type

why the fuck do you need a computer in school? use a fucking book, more reliable than the onion and wikipedia like most of the sources you 12 year olds use.

midi ringtones that cost 2.99 and 10 minutes to load a picture of a chicks tits which looked way better in the thumbnail leading to disappointment and bad fapping

Are you sure about that ?

Even if they did listen to the network traffic, they would only be able to get login info from the non encrypted data. i.e. http traffic, and it would take a lot of time and energy to process and extract the wanted information from a public wifi logs, even if you were looking for something specific.

But most of the websites you have an account on nowadays force the https usage. So, as I'm sure your school wouldn't have the skills, or the means to hire the skills, cracking that encryption would require, it seems highly unlikely to me.

HTTPS stripping attacks would be easier, but even this, I just don't see how or why would an high school do that.

So, you might be overreacting ?

ethanfrayneA large number of students at another highschool in my district got FELANY charges for child pornography

That's what happens when you have pictures of people that are underage. It doesn't matter if it's a 16-year old girl showing her bitties or creepy molesting baby pictures.

They're still going to be listed as sex offenders.

Monsieur_PatateAre you sure about that ?

Even if they did listen to the network traffic, they would only be able to get login info from the non encrypted data. i.e. http traffic, and it would take a lot of time and energy to process and extract the wanted information from a public wifi logs, even if you were looking for something specific.

But most of the websites you have an account on nowadays force the https usage. So, as I'm sure your school wouldn't have the skills, or the means to hire the skills, cracking that encryption would require, it seems highly unlikely to me.

HTTPS stripping attacks would be easier, but even this, I just don't see how or why would an high school do that.

So, you might be overreacting ?

I'm glad I'm not the only one having trouble imagining a High School IT tech managing to log and decode AES encrypted data.

CorinWhat schools still have no phone policies? And how are you supposed to research stuff without internet on your computer? Like what else are you gonna do in class when your working on something, type from memory of earlier research?

Wow. All I can say is wow.

DeebieSkeebiesnot to mention (at least from my own personal experiences) when those agreements get passed out in class, everyone just throws them into their bags for their parents to sign when they get home. i never read my user agreements, and im sure tons of people haven't which leads to schools pulling some fucking shady-ass shit.

I remember in high school if you did not sign it and return it by the date posted, you would get a referral/detention. So basically, you have absolutely no choice but to sign it even if you don't agree with it.

This is fucked up. Whether it's legal or not doesn't really matter. It's still morally wrong to log on to other people's personal accounts without reason.

CorinI graduated in 2013, so it's not that new.

your post was pretty interesting to see how it works with just computers, and to some extent it makes sense.

but I also wanted to point out that you're most likely talking with people who graduated in the 1990s or early 2000s.

I graduated more than 5 years ago and already things have changed so much

Schools have gone so far over the boundary these days it truly is scary. This is just next level inappropriate for ANYONE who runs a public institution. I would sue the crap out of the school.

I bet it was in small writing in one sentence in one of those stupid contracts they make you sign prior to starting school and if you don't they suspend you. Hope that administration goes down. It boggles my mind how smoeone could go from a chill high school kid, through college, and then eventually become a cruel administrator combing passwords to go out of their way to arrest people.

CorinAnd to the whole helpless thing and me not being able to do anything without internet or computers, I'd like to say that this was school-work. We learned about the same things you learn about in other schools, we just knew how to find information easier and quicker. A big part of everything we did was also critical thinking, questioning different sources of information (like Wikipedia obviously). Using a computer for typing and finding information doesn't mean that you can't survive in a power outage or be in the outdoors or something. It's like saying since you use ski lifts and sleds to get up the mountains instead of walking/touring, you don't know anything about avalanches. They are different things entirely.

By the sounds, if the power went out, your entire school would be indeed fucked. All that critical thinking doesn't seem to have done much for you because those last couple of sentences were pure idiocy on so many levels. I think Sweden needs to re-up their educational standards.

TheSeaCaptain........schools can require that shit now? What if you can't afford an iPad?

USUALLY the schools that "require" it are often private schools and if you can afford a private school odds are you can afford an ipad/tablet and or some type of computer.

I go to a private high school it's not required there but it's allowed and most kids have some form of technology to "take notes" with.

Caucasian_AsianThat's what happens when you have pictures of people that are underage. It doesn't matter if it's a 16-year old girl showing her bitties or creepy molesting baby pictures.

They're still going to be listed as sex offenders.

Seems a little excessive

JenniferGarnerBy the sounds, if the power went out, your entire school would be indeed fucked. All that critical thinking doesn't seem to have done much for you because those last couple of sentences were pure idiocy on so many levels. I think Sweden needs to re-up their educational standards.

My school would not have been fucked if the power went out, but we would not have been able to study as much, that's true.

Those last sentences are pure idiocy how exactly? I just think that knowledge and how that knowledge is required are two different things. Just because my knowledge didn't come from a book doesn't mean that it's not good knowledge. Just as someone who uses skilifts to go skiing can have as much knowledge about mountains and avalanches as a person who don't. Modern technology is not always bad, and unnecessary conservatism is almost always bad.

I find it really strange that so many of you have such a strong reaction on my first post in this thread. Weird how truly different it can be.

Also sorry OP for thread derailment.

CorinMy school would not have been fucked if the power went out, but we would not have been able to study as much, that's true.

Seeing as how you only use electronics for learning, you'd be fucked if those electronics somehow were no longer working... like say due to the POWER GOING OUT. More proof your school sucks and your critical thinking skills are on the level of George Bush.

My Cross Country team had a group chat on facebook where we called a girl a bitch and a hoe and then somehow the vice principal got it and suspended us for a week, we missed the State Championship which we should have won.

JenniferGarnerOh look another clueless and spoiled HS student spreading rumors and blowing the actual events way out of proportion! That never happens in high school!

But really though, if you believed that then why the fuck are you still using your phone at school? Since when did it become impossible to socialize with your friends without using your smart phone 80% of the time? You kids are pathetic and deserve everything bad that happens to you.

You're pathetic! Why don't you just get the hell out of here. If anyone deserves to have something bad happen to them it's you, ya bitch.

fuck that lets see the pictures

JenniferGarnerSeeing as how you only use electronics for learning, you'd be fucked if those electronics somehow were no longer working... like say due to the POWER GOING OUT. More proof your school sucks and your critical thinking skills are on the level of George Bush.

You're fucking retarded. Who the hell has school when the power goes out? It's a liability to have hundreds of kids walking through the halls with no lights.

stopped at the part where you're trying to defend the people charged with child porn, passed the point of no return. thread is lost

God this thread makes me feel old. I still don't even really understand what the point of an ipad is if you already have a computer and an iphone. Schools actually require kids to have them now? What the fuck?

plyswthsqrrlsstopped at the part where you're trying to defend the people charged with child porn, passed the point of no return. thread is lost

Im not trying to defend anyone. I don't know the situation. But it's highly likely that the kids with child porn had nudes of their boyfriends/ girlfriends.

It's not like they were 50 year old men/ women with pictures of 14 year olds. It doesn't make it right, but it's not really uncommon for teenagers to have nudes...let's be honest.

MinggIm not trying to defend anyone. I don't know the situation. But it's highly likely that the kids with child porn had nudes of their boyfriends/ girlfriends.

It's not like they were 50 year old men/ women with pictures of 14 year olds. It doesn't make it right, but it's not really uncommon for teenagers to have nudes...let's be honest.

I was referring to OP, didn't read most of the thread because his original argument seemed dumb. Invasion of privacy blows but that's a shitty argument lol

MinggBut it's highly likely that the kids with child porn had nudes of their boyfriends/ girlfriends.

If they're underage, it's child pornography. And that will get you listed as a sex offender.

It might suck, but that's the law.