Yes, they always were. Putin is a clown and as the second cold war approaches we need a president who isn't a pussy. we should preemptively put an end to russia as a country.
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guys world war three wont happen because everyone knows not to fuck with us. we have made it abundantly clear that our defense programs are far superior to everyone elses and we will put more money from our economy into the military than any other country. Nobody is going to be against america in their right mind
Jul 17 2014 6:58PM
PULLguys world war three wont happen because everyone knows not to fuck with us. we have made it abundantly clear that our defense programs are far superior to everyone elses and we will put more money from our economy into the military than any other country. Nobody is going to be against america in their right mind
Yeah any country with a formal military would be crazy to get into a war with the US. We have the capability to wipe out most militaries, and it wouldn't take us very long either. The militias and terrorist organizations that blend in with the innocent civilians are the ones we have troubles with because of our rules of engagement. Were more of a police group rather than a modern military in those situations.
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I love how Obama looked at Romney like he was crazy when Romney said that we have to take Russia seriously during the 2012 debates. Obama just laughed at him saying your Cold War policy was 20 years out-dated. Talk about a fucking back-fire for Obummer. I wonder if he feels like an idiot like he should/.
Jul 17 2014 9:06PM
For both Russia and North Korea, the US would obviously be a problem if they ever took military action, but they're in a terrible position, because the rest of the free world is on our side. So we spend around $600 billion a year (which is probably way too much), when China and Russia, the next biggest spenders, commit less than $300 billion combined. North Korea doesn't have a large enough economy to spend anywhere near even the top 30 countries. If you combine the top 20 "pro-Western" countries, the spending is over $1 trillion. Also, America (and the other developed countries) could far out produce Russia and China during times of war, eliminating more of the threat.
In the end though, none of this spending means anything if someone shoots of a nuke. Nothing matters then, except who's defense system fails first.
Jul 17 2014 9:21PM
integralmgmtFor both Russia and North Korea, the US would obviously be a problem if they ever took military action, but they're in a terrible position, because the rest of the free world is on our side. So we spend around $600 billion a year (which is probably way too much), when China and Russia, the next biggest spenders, commit less than $300 billion combined. North Korea doesn't have a large enough economy to spend anywhere near even the top 30 countries. If you combine the top 20 "pro-Western" countries, the spending is over $1 trillion. Also, America (and the other developed countries) could far out produce Russia and China during times of war, eliminating more of the threat.In the end though, none of this spending means anything if someone shoots of a nuke. Nothing matters then, except who's defense system fails first.
Thats why I think that nothing will happen between the US and Russia. The threat of nuke is too real and both countries know that no one comes out on top if nukes are used. Say we go to war with Russia and start kicking the shit out of them, whose to say they wont use one when they become desperate? We all know that if a war happened than they'd eventually become desperate and as they become more and more desperate, the threat of threat of them using a nuke gradually increases as well.
Jul 17 2014 9:42PM
WoldsWorldThats why I think that nothing will happen between the US and Russia. The threat of nuke is too real and both countries know that no one comes out on top if nukes are used. Say we go to war with Russia and start kicking the shit out of them, whose to say they wont use one when they become desperate? We all know that if a war happened than they'd eventually become desperate and as they become more and more desperate, the threat of threat of them using a nuke gradually increases as well.
But it's more complicated than that, because if we continue to sanction Russia economically, it won't be sustainable for the Russian economy, which may result in escalation. However, Russia supplies natural gas to Europe, which gives them some pull.
It's about trying to find a balance between the Appeasement policies that led to World War II, and total war immediately.
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DrZoidbergPutin laughs at Obama and isn't afraid of him at all.But if it will start a second space race and give me a job as a government funded scientist, then sure, let's make them the bad commies again.
Agreed. Obama should threaten Russia into a race towards Mars. That would finally get NASA going again which is a great thing for our country historically speaking. Some people don't realize that the space race to the moon was soooo much more than a guy walking on the moon. It was an advancement as a society and culture into the modern age we live in today.
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BombogenesisWhy wouldn't Obama cancel his fundraiser???? You're the fucking president and American citizens were shot down over ukraine by Russia. Holy shit he is the worst god damned president in history. fuck you Obama you piece of excrement
"It looks like it may be a terrible tragedy"
Sounds like it's not a big enough deal for him.
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JAHpow"It looks like it may be a terrible tragedy"Sounds like it's not a big enough deal for him.
Its just like... Cancel it and do anything else. Anything. I don't know... Go bang Michelle or something. Just don't fucking fundraise when 20 something Americans died and the blood is on Russia's hands. He should be on tv just vehemently eviscerating whoever was responsible for this. we are no longer strong. A fucking jet was shot down and our leader goes to raise money. What a fucking dickhead. No respect
Jul 17 2014 11:58PM
Dolan.Escobar^ obamas brain is like a racecar going 200 mphWith nobody actually behind the wheel
Its not even a partisan thing anymore. Most unilaterally cannot stand him anymore. Both dems and republicans.
im a registered republican but if he was doing a good job id praise him. He's just SO incompetent. I can probably count the times on one hand that he's been more useful than a steaming pile of moose shit
Jul 18 2014 12:01AM
BombogenesisIts not even a partisan thing anymore. Most unilaterally cannot stand him anymore. Both dems and republicans.im a registered republican but if he was doing a good job id praise him. He's just SO incompetent. I can probably count the times on one hand that he's been more useful than a steaming pile of moose shit
don't blame Obama
Jul 18 2014 12:07AM
.FRY.don't blame Obama
A leader doesn't go to two fundraisers on the same day that this shit happens. Obama had nothing to do with the takedown obviously but his handling of it reflects the total incompetency of his entire presidency. Defending his handling of this is an absolute abomination.
We get our shit kicked around all the time now cause our spineless potus pulls shit like this.
Jul 18 2014 12:09AM
BombogenesisA leader doesn't go to two fundraisers on the same day that this shit happens. Obama had nothing to do with the takedown obviously but his handling of it reflects the total incompetency of his entire presidency. Defending his handling of this is an absolute abomination.We get our shit kicked around all the time now cause our spineless potus pulls shit like this.
well what the fuck is he supposed to do? he can't do anything. there isn't any way to make it better.
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.FRY.well what the fuck is he supposed to do? he can't do anything. there isn't any way to make it better.
I don't know, maybe be the PRESIDENT? he should have gone directly back to the situation room at the white house with all his senior staff members and got Putin directly while tirelessly coming up with a plan. Instead he "warned" Russia not to tamper with the crash zone (LOL...I'm sure that really made Putin quake in his boots) and then went to two fucking democratic fundraisers. Like holy shit.
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BombogenesisI don't know, maybe be the PRESIDENT? he should have gone directly back to the situation room at the white house with all his senior staff members and got Putin directly while tirelessly coming up with a plan. Instead he "warned" Russia not to tamper with the crash zone (LOL...I'm sure that really made Putin quake in his boots) and then went to two fucking democratic fundraisers. Like holy shit.
what I'm saying is there really isn't much he can do. instead of hopping on his private jet and flying over there to take care of the situation, he needs to make a plan and make sure that he makes the right decision.
seriously what would you do if you were in his situation???
Jul 18 2014 12:20AM
.FRY.what I'm saying is there really isn't much he can do. instead of hopping on his private jet and flying over there to take care of the situation, he needs to make a plan and make sure that he makes the right decision.seriously what would you do if you were in his situation???
I dont know what id do man... And that's why I'm not the potus. I do know what I wouldn't do though and that's go to a couple of freaking fundraisers. it's disrespectful at the very least. Putin is so unafraid of Obama it's scary. A leader just doesn't act like he does about stuff man.
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JAHpowWhich he still didn't even do. He went to fundraisers.You're pointing out some good plans that he could have done. Not sure why you're questioning what we would do.
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BombogenesisIts just like... Cancel it and do anything else. Anything. I don't know... Go bang Michelle or something. Just don't fucking fundraise when 20 something Americans died and the blood is on Russia's hands. He should be on tv just vehemently eviscerating whoever was responsible for this. we are no longer strong. A fucking jet was shot down and our leader goes to raise money. What a fucking dickhead. No respect
while i otherwise agree with you, no americans died
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BombogenesisIts just like... Cancel it and do anything else. Anything. I don't know... Go bang Michelle or something. Just don't fucking fundraise when 20 something Americans died and the blood is on Russia's hands. He should be on tv just vehemently eviscerating whoever was responsible for this. we are no longer strong. A fucking jet was shot down and our leader goes to raise money. What a fucking dickhead. No respect
The president and our government don't have a leg to stand on. We did the same in 1988, shooting down an Iranian Airlines flight killing 270 people, remember?
Jul 18 2014 8:11AM
Paedophile-PopeThe president and our government don't have a leg to stand on. We did the same in 1988, shooting down an Iranian Airlines flight killing 270 people, remember?
Both cases are probably mistaken identity... I don't think either plane was intentionally shot down. It's still in poor taste what he did. I dont know how that can be argued