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Looking at detuning my edges, Mountain hasn't opened the park yet but I want to detune before they open it. Is a detune worth it and will it effect my skiing elsewhere on the mountain? I want the edges on my skis to last because i know i will be sliding rails but I'm worried about destroying my new skis and making them terrible for the rest of the mountain.
Karma for any help.
It depends on how much you detune them but yes you will lose a little bit of edge hold on hardpack. You should only detune them underfoot so they will be ok all around the mountain.
What will kill their all mountain performance and edge hold is hitting rails regularly, the detune by itself won't do much it will just make you less likely to catch and edge on boxes/rails but regularly hitting rails will dull the edges a lot.
You have to make a decision do you want perfect edge hold and all mountain performance or do you want to hit rails and boxes a lot?
NegromancerIt depends on how much you detune them but yes you will lose a little bit of edge hold on hardpack. You should only detune them underfoot so they will be ok all around the mountain.What will kill their all mountain performance and edge hold is hitting rails regularly, the detune by itself won't do much it will just make you less likely to catch and edge on boxes/rails but regularly hitting rails will dull the edges a lot.
You have to make a decision do you want perfect edge hold and all mountain performance or do you want to hit rails and boxes a lot?
With the detune, does it make all mountain skiing hell or is it just a bit slippier if you get what i mean?
My rule of thumb when it comes to rails: Put your skis on them once, and they are ruined.
Detuning the edges makes the skis safer in the park. They dont catch edges, you can sketch out a spin if you under rotate and dont catch on rails. Rails make good park skis.
Why are they ruined? When you place a metal to metal contact, the metal heats to a point, it melts partially the edge and thus removing it. The second harm happends at the landing, they get a shock cooling;causing the metal to weaken (that is why edges split after a year or 2).
Why do you considered ruined on all mountain? Unless you can carve, this is not an issue. Slide turns is a beginner technique that does not require an edge to do; you can do it on Xcountry skiing. When you carve, you are using the sharpness of the metal on the snow/ice to help create an extra centrifugal force to overcome the centripetal force created by speed and mass. Remove the edge and you will overcome the snow friction and slope angle; resulting in your legs to skid from underneath you. Reducing the sharpness of the edge expand the surface area of ski/snow contact. At a point, the area will be too large to cut into ice, or making the ski uncontrollable at higher speeds and gnarlier terrain.
What to do? Well, serious riders have a park ski and a mountain ski to avoid damaging the latter. Also, riding 2 pairs of skis extends the life of a ski by half a year...like owning 2 shoes. Second, if your too broke for skis, detune the underfoot only. That will still ruin the ski, but you can still get some fum out of it.
Jerome.The.LlamaWith the detune, does it make all mountain skiing hell or is it just a bit slippier if you get what i mean?
If you're good enough at skiing to consider de-tuning and skiing park, you're good enough at skiing to handle all mountain with dull edges. I skied out of bounds all year on my battered old T-Halls, and had no problem
freestyler540My rule of thumb when it comes to rails: Put your skis on them once, and they are ruined.Detuning the edges makes the skis safer in the park. They dont catch edges, you can sketch out a spin if you under rotate and dont catch on rails. Rails make good park skis.
Why are they ruined? When you place a metal to metal contact, the metal heats to a point, it melts partially the edge and thus removing it. The second harm happends at the landing, they get a shock cooling;causing the metal to weaken (that is why edges split after a year or 2).
Why do you considered ruined on all mountain? Unless you can carve, this is not an issue. Slide turns is a beginner technique that does not require an edge to do; you can do it on Xcountry skiing. When you carve, you are using the sharpness of the metal on the snow/ice to help create an extra centrifugal force to overcome the centripetal force created by speed and mass. Remove the edge and you will overcome the snow friction and slope angle; resulting in your legs to skid from underneath you. Reducing the sharpness of the edge expand the surface area of ski/snow contact. At a point, the area will be too large to cut into ice, or making the ski uncontrollable at higher speeds and gnarlier terrain.
What to do? Well, serious riders have a park ski and a mountain ski to avoid damaging the latter. Also, riding 2 pairs of skis extends the life of a ski by half a year...like owning 2 shoes. Second, if your too broke for skis, detune the underfoot only. That will still ruin the ski, but you can still get some fum out of it.
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freestyler540My rule of thumb when it comes to rails: Put your skis on them once, and they are ruined.Detuning the edges makes the skis safer in the park. They dont catch edges, you can sketch out a spin if you under rotate and dont catch on rails. Rails make good park skis.
Why are they ruined? When you place a metal to metal contact, the metal heats to a point, it melts partially the edge and thus removing it. The second harm happends at the landing, they get a shock cooling;causing the metal to weaken (that is why edges split after a year or 2).
Why do you considered ruined on all mountain? Unless you can carve, this is not an issue. Slide turns is a beginner technique that does not require an edge to do; you can do it on Xcountry skiing. When you carve, you are using the sharpness of the metal on the snow/ice to help create an extra centrifugal force to overcome the centripetal force created by speed and mass. Remove the edge and you will overcome the snow friction and slope angle; resulting in your legs to skid from underneath you. Reducing the sharpness of the edge expand the surface area of ski/snow contact. At a point, the area will be too large to cut into ice, or making the ski uncontrollable at higher speeds and gnarlier terrain.
What to do? Well, serious riders have a park ski and a mountain ski to avoid damaging the latter. Also, riding 2 pairs of skis extends the life of a ski by half a year...like owning 2 shoes. Second, if your too broke for skis, detune the underfoot only. That will still ruin the ski, but you can still get some fum out of it.
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bfulmerIf you're good enough at skiing to consider de-tuning and skiing park, you're good enough at skiing to handle all mountain with dull edges. I skied out of bounds all year on my battered old T-Halls, and had no problem
Jerome.The.LlamaI still enjoy carving, and i also enjoy park. Im still so confused on what to do.
what he said, You'll be fine if you're a good enough skier bro.