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Official 333 skis / 222 skis - review/discussion board.

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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
So its about that time, people are going to be receiving their 333skis in the next few weeks, and this is the place to post up reviews.

What I would like to see, is a general summary of your skis shape, dimensions, pics etc. Then when you get to use them on snow, a first impression. Finally, after a good season of abuse, an overall conclusion on how you like/dislike them, for the skiing, durability, etc.

If you have questions about a specific pair of skis, try to PM the poster, so the thread does not get huge and cluttered. I would like to have as many pairs reviewed as possible. If you have a general question about the construction of the skis, or whatever, just PM me.
Aug 27 2009 3:15AM
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Slinger1x1
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definitely want to see reviews. I'm planning on ordering a pair ASAP.
Aug 27 2009 12:48PM
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Octopus
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Im planning on ordering a pair once michael gets back to me with the multi point sidecut excel spreadsheet. its been taking him a while. Is anybody else having the same thing happen?
Aug 27 2009 12:53PM
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El_Barto.
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my brother has a pair on the way so i will post a review for them once he gets them, i think he essentially made pontoons but not 100% sure. pics and a description will come once he gets his paws on them
Aug 27 2009 1:08PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
UPDATE:

Micheal called me today, and said my skis should ship in a week.
Aug 30 2009 6:10PM
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FreeskierRocco.
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im just posting to see what the outcome of this is
Sep 8 2009 4:28PM
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bootleg_BEN
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my threads.

Really want to see how these are.
Sep 8 2009 4:41PM
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EastCoast315
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Threadz

Props to all the dudes that went off and bought a pair first. They are kind of my guniea pigs haha

Sep 8 2009 5:12PM
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FreeskierRocco.
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this haha
Sep 8 2009 5:23PM
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Commonwealth
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Sep 8 2009 5:52PM
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jibjunkie
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my threads
Sep 8 2009 6:07PM
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mynilla
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post, im curious!
Sep 8 2009 7:08PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
UPDATE: Michael said that he would not be able to give me a build/ship date at this time, due to the amount of orders he has recieved, but is trying to get everything done. So no skis yet, but I will post when relevant info comes my way.
Sep 9 2009 6:50PM
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fouldsys
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man that guy is a genious. i cant believe he manage to pack all that stuff into a trailer. i might go down there in the spring or something and help build a pair for myself as i would like to ski build as a hobby. well see i guess.
Sep 9 2009 6:56PM
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Moses
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threads, i really want to see how this turns out
Sep 9 2009 7:18PM
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Slinger1x1
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He takes a while to respond and isn't very clear

After a lot of talking, I finally decided to buy the skis i designed. But he hasn't said anything about money or starting them or anything... Its confusing, and i want to make sure i get these skis for the season...
Sep 9 2009 7:38PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
So here is an update.

Michael has not been scrambling to fill orders, he has been working on making his factory more efficient, so he can cycle through about 10 pairs a day instead of 3 or so.

So don't freak out if you have not heard anything from him in a while, and do not go ahead and buy a different pair because you don't think he is going to get it done.

Other small companies, like DPS and Praxis are having trouble filling orders on time too. Just be patient, and remember.

Custom skis - $222...
Custom skis with custom graphics - $333 dollars...

I will keep you all posted.
Sep 20 2009 8:30PM
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Lemuel
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Awe you got me all excited.  I thought there were going to be pictures and reviews and such.
Sep 20 2009 8:46PM
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Slinger1x1
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AND CHECK OUT THE ARTICLE IN POWDER MAG ABOUT HIM!!!!
so cool that hes in there. I emailed him to make sure my order is all set because i bet hes going to get a ton more business now. he told me about the new tools and what not, and that its going to take a few weeks. im so psyched.
Sep 20 2009 9:21PM
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iFail
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Not too surprising.  I was (I think) one of the first group of people to start talking to him about an order a while back, and I knew he was getting a ton of orders, and that he would be making some changes.  He had me and possibly a few others check out a few sheets(like multi point sidecut order form) for any errors, and also took some time to make those videos that are on the site about how he gets his materials and how the skis are built.  Everything he showed me seemed perfect, and he by no means aimed to be cheap/lazy with his job at all.  The care he has been taking just getting everything ready in the factory and on the site should give an idea of the effort he will be putting into the skis.  People that complain about not getting their skis in early September, which I don't think you are, are just being impatient.  Give him some time, he's just getting everything sorted out so that what he sells will be quality.

  The only downside I can think of of these is the cap construction.  Sidewall lays down turns on groomers better IMO.  That being said, cap saves a ton of weight and there is no delam problem, and my ski is made for pow and will be used for all my touring(195, 118 underfoot, pretty straight with fairly large tip rocker and taper, and medium tail taper, medium-long tail rocker with low rise, camber underfoot=BEAST)

Sep 20 2009 9:31PM
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Caveman.
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threads.
Sep 20 2009 9:38PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
this is true with normal cap construction yes, But since the cores he is using are horizontally laminated, it should result in much stiffer cores torsionally speaking, and they should ride alot better on the groomers comparatively. And since they trim down on wood thickness, and have no topsheet material, they should be alot lighter.

You might have to have him add some lead sheeting so they dont blow away...jk obviously.
Sep 20 2009 10:25PM
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iFail
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Shit, your right.  That could be a great thing..I hope it really makes groomers as much better as it sounds it could.  The horizontal layout always seemed smarter to me, and it annoyed me that Line claimed to think it up themselves even though it has been used before, just not so advertised..
Sep 21 2009 12:46AM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
You should not be mad at Line. They saw an opportunity to bring something to the market that had not really been done before. They used the points of durability, reduced wood and plastic waste, and marketed what should turn out to be the burliest jib skis ever. I just hope Line starts using this technology in some of their other skis. I would love to see some Horizontal layup EP Pros myself.

I would also like to see more companies using Bamboo. From a longboarding perspective, Bamboo is much more sustainable than normal ski core material, is much lighter, has a damp, easy to manipulate flex, and is also very durable. Bluehouse, Liberty, and ON3P are already using bamboo, but I think that in the next few years, we are going to see more and more of that too.

By the way, unless something important happens, the next time I update this thread, will be when my skis are on the way, or I hear other people are recieving their orders. Then of course, it will finally be review time.


Sep 21 2009 11:15AM
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BlackcountryBill
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my threads.
Sep 25 2009 10:39AM
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gnartogue
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threads
Sep 25 2009 10:41PM
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Kev-Kev.
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Yah i haven't heard from him in a while either and i ordered in the beggining of august. Don't want to back out but mounting at shops round here are getting back ordered quick.
Sep 26 2009 10:41AM
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Santa-Cruz
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i want to order a pair

anybody get theirs yet
Sep 28 2009 11:01PM
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iFail
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Haha, they didn't bring it to the market.  Michael had been using it in all the factorys or whatever he was making before this, and some skis(especially older) and snowboards already used it.  Line just took something which IMO won't effect performance THAT much and over-advertised it as something genius and new.  Also we don't know it's one of the burliest jib skis ever since we haven't had extended time on it.  Yet everybody seems to believe it so I guess it's another line genius sales pitch which somehow so many people believe.

Oh, and about what you said earlier about this layup being alot better for cap, I'm not sure if that's right.  There is still no material above the edge where it is on sidewall skis, and I think that is the difference.

Anybody know when Michael will start making his skis?  I'm so stoked to have a ski that will actually shine on cliffs(Center mounted chronics weren't a big help).  Am I the only one making a directional charger?

Sep 29 2009 12:34AM
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Chompo.
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anyone got there skis yet
Sep 29 2009 9:29PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
So I finally got the long awaited call today. I have to send some money to 333, but my skis are to be made in the next few days, so expect pictures, and a detailed first impression within 2-3 weeks.
Oct 10 2009 6:31PM
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YooperSteeze
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My threadz
Oct 10 2009 9:20PM
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fatherb
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my threadsssss
Oct 10 2009 9:27PM
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zylstra
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sasdfasd
Oct 10 2009 9:36PM
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JZA
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tHrEaDs
Oct 10 2009 9:45PM
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Slinger1x1
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got a call yesterday, sent in my money
i cant wait
Oct 13 2009 7:02PM
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backwardsrider
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can someone find a link to the tgr thread on 333 skis?

ive tried but their website doesnt search 333 so it just searches skis.

Oct 13 2009 7:10PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
search 333skis with no space
Oct 14 2009 8:33AM
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Commonwealth
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http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160115&highlight=333skis
Oct 14 2009 12:00PM
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mer-man
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hot dam that is that guy has a good idea i would kill to have custom top sheet on my afterbangs
Oct 14 2009 1:36PM
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FreeskierRocco.
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is anyone going to actually get 333 skis? or are we all jsut gonna sit here waiting to find out what happens?

Oct 14 2009 8:10PM
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El_Barto.
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a few NSers have placed orders. my brother ordered a pair, he doesnt use NS so when he gets them im gonna post a review for him
Oct 14 2009 8:29PM
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m.brus
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threads...might buy some 222s and sticker them up or paint them....what are the bases like?
Oct 14 2009 9:28PM
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Slinger1x1
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I sent in my money the other day
I expect them within the next two or three weeks
Oct 14 2009 11:09PM
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mynilla
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I sent him an email a while back about approximate dates but didn't get anything until the other day. It was from Kristen, his manager it sounds like people will start getting their skis fairly soon.
Oct 14 2009 11:34PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
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The bases are green from what I have seen. And as for getting them, mine should be shipped out like next week.
Oct 15 2009 2:33AM
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FreeskierRocco.
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o aight jw guys thanks.
Oct 15 2009 7:25PM
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Charles.
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threads i wanna see how these come out
Oct 15 2009 7:51PM
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mer-man
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anyone have any yet?

Oct 17 2009 3:12PM
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