The Look PX12: The end of the Axial Heel

guys.... these bindings must be amazing. they wouldn't get rid of the best bindings on the market, and replace them with shit. these must be really good, and revolutionary, there for they are replacing hte pivot/axial heels.
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Allright, looks like someone needs to step in and clear this all up.

For next season, the Axial2 line from Rossignol, and the Px line from Look, have been redesigned. Its all for the better guys, and here’s why:

Lets start with the toepiece, which seems to be the least of everyone’s concerns. The new toepiece has been beefened up to reinforce the high stress areas. The actual design of the toepiece is still the same though. 45mm of elastic travel, and din settings of 3.5-12 and 5-14 you will still see in this toepiece. So summing up the toepiece: BURLIER, but same same as previous models.

Now we move to the heelpiece. Major shit has been done here, and its all for the better. The new heelpiece is loaded with features, and once I explain why, you will all be stoked to get a set. First, you will notice that yes indeed the turntable has been eliminated, but, there are reasons why. With the previous binding heelpiece, forward pressure was always an issue. The binding was designed way back when 220cm skis were in use, and no one was butting onto rails. So, with the new heelpiece, you will see an increase of forward pressure around 30%. Whats that mean you may ask yourself? Well, with an increase of forward pressure, you will have a much better boot/binding interface, which allows for a setup that will be more responsive, and have less prerelease. Now, at this point, your prolly like “fuck, there just clamps, hows this going to make any sort of a difference.� Well, with the redesigned heel, it will actually livin up the entire ski, which will snap you out of the turn better, and actually, give you a little bit more ollie factor.
So, lets move onto another bonus point about the binding. The screw pattern has been lengthed up, which resultes in way less pull out, something all us jibbers saw with the previous bindings.
NOW, here is what all of the jibbers in the world should be concerned about. YES there is no turntable, but the ELASTIC TRAVEL in the binding has stayed the same. Elastic Travel, what the fuck is that? Well, elastic travel in the heel is the amount the boot can pull up, and still pop back in. If there were no elastic travel in a binding, as soon as you hit a decent sized bump cruzing down the trail, you would pop out. So our heelpiece has 25mm of elastic travel, the most in the industry. THAT’S WHY OUR BINDING IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST OUT THERE FOR JIBBING. You land switch, your boot needs to be able to pull out a few mm’s, and with the axial bindings having 25mm to work with, you will prerelease less.

OK, shit just gets better, and here is the best part. Pricing is much more aggressive for next season. Your going to see Scratch Composite 120’s (3.5-12 Din) for about $169 bucks (that’s about 80 bucks less then this season) and you will see Scratch Titanium 140s (5-14 din) for about $249 bucks. Who’s going to bitch about that?

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im gonna bitch about it...they shoulda kept the pivot

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Just shut up and ski.

what about elasticity side to side?
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^^sounds pretty sick, but I still liked the dildo heel better
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- Simon


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It'll probably still be better than Salomon, even without the pivot. As for whether it lives up to VTRider's hype... we'll see.

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i'm almost sold on that right there.
i might have to check out a pair.

i loved the pivot heels, but these might not be bad.
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vtrider, you had me at alright..

i tihnk all these people are pissed because they look haggard, and they care too much about appearance. man, i like the sound of this though. Look as never done me wrong, and i don't think they would scrap the most successful bnding for shitty ones. these gotta be rad.
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that was quite the moment of zen reading about the new binders, thanks for the info vtrider.
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yeah matt! way to come in and clear things up.

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FIRE AINGE!!

Shit I dont know but im gonna buy some p12 and keep them. Its all about money, the old style is probibly more expensive 2 produce.

Maby they got sued for one of the end pieces riping open someones ass hole open! So they had to change the design.

vtrider is correct and has made some very good points. The binding does have much more forward pressure. The mounting point on the heel has become much longer (futher towards the tail of the ski). While this helps to achive more forward pressure, and will definetly reduce binding pullouts there is one downside. The shorter mounting point on the old style allowed for more flex in the ski, which helped to eliminate the 'dead spot' under your boot. Having a smaller dead spot or a more evenly flexing ski is beneficial when riding pipe for example. However, the elastic travel still remains to be a key feature, which is good.

This new Axial binding is not replacing the Axium line as was mentioned earlier, although there is a newer Axium binder floating around.

As for all of you 'stocking up' on the old bindings so that 'they will last you for years', I wouldn't count on it. As many of you know, a binding has a service life of only several years. What this means is that due to safety and liability issues, shops will not mount or adjust old bindings. The springs get old and deteriorate, causing the binding to not operate efficiently.
So, you may have your opinions about this new Look/Rossi binder, but it's still the only binding that I would consider riding besides maybe the new Line binder. But hey, that's just me.
I hope this clears a few things up, and thanks again to vtrider.







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Wait a minute are you trying to say that the new heel has 25mm of elastic travel? Because that is bullshit the pivot heel had travel and the new heel DOES NOT according to the two highest ranking Look employees in the West Coast. Secondly you can add foward pressure to the Pivot heel if you think it's at all an issue with a simple click or two of you trusty screwdriver. And Lastly the shorter mounting point of the Pivot was one of it BEST selling points and to blame a binding which has so well stood up to the test of time for stripping out of skis which are being made softer and cheaper by the year is rediculous. Everyone and their mom has pulled a p10 or p12 out of their Fujatives because of the ski not the binding. And for anyone who still believes a word of this progressive propagandist ask yourself these two questions:
1. If the new design is better than why isn't it being used by the race department who will continue to use their current (20 year old) binding technology?
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2. If the new binding is better than how on earth could it be cheaper than the Pivot which they've been making for a long time?

It is quite simple that R and D and cost of developement on new products are distributed to the consumer throughout the first years of production on anything that has ever been made by the ski industry. This means that if the new binding is better or even as good as the old binding, it would cost more than the pivot to the consumer next year. It has to be significantly cheaper to make and that means it won't be as good end of story.
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i wonder if theyre lighter?
i couldnt care less, but i'm just curious, they look lighter
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'thats what the internet is for: slandering others anonymously'- jay and silent bob strike back

skimasterflex, whoever is your contact at look, because he/she is totally wrong. I have been teching this binding for about 3 months now and know for a fact that it still has 25mm of vertical elastic travel in the heel. Now, on adding forward pressure to the current binding, yes you can spin it in a turn or two, but its not going to achieve the same results as this new binding.
As far as race department goes, there is a new binding in the works, and its looks like a full metal version of the binding pictured above.

post any more questions up, I will answer em as quick as possible.

Matt Rihm
Marketing/Promotions Specialist
Rossignol Ski Co.

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S.M.I.T.H

^^Vertical Travel is not the same as horizontal. The side to side travel of the pivot was useful for landing spins and buttering out if you came up short because the force of your twist is distributed between toe and heel. How will vertical travel make a difference? So you're claiming your heel can lift an entire inch off the ski without releasing from the binding?
'Skiing is 90% outfit, 5% equipment, and 5% ability' -Lief Storer

The only way to achieve more forward pressure with the old style, would be to turn the screw once your boot is already in the binding. If you move the heelpiece in before your boot is in there, then you won't fit your boot in. This new style seems to take a bit of a different approach, which will give more forward pressure.







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they best not be changin my p18s goddamnit