i can float 180's pretty well with grabs, but i just cant seem to do steezed out 3's. i can spin 3's, but with no style whatsoever, kinda like what you see the random 10 year old kid trying to do off of 6 inch jumps, but a little bit slower. my problem is that i cant smoothen the spin out. i've tried looking over my shoulder and that slows me down a little bit, but then i do like two 180's in the air and its really sketchy. i dunno, i guess im just wondering what the 'correct' way to spin is.....
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Anyway, the kid ^ is right about tucking your legs. Also, go a little bigger, it forces you to spin slower. the smaller the jump, the more convaluted your spin is, and the less time there is to control the spin.
When I was first learning, I looked for..how to explain this...jumps that started below the landing. Not a kicker or a table, but more of a lip, where you get speed below the lip, then its flat ground. If youve ever been to alta, below the wildcat lift there is a perfect example, a natural lip thats there every year...i think there are pictures of Nick Mercon switch rodeoing it somewhere on here.
anyway, hope thats not too confusing. I can draw a picture if you want to help explain.
yah but dont think i can get the 180 and then look for another one, think you need to spin the full 3 smooth, tucknig the legs up compacts your spin and the grab slows it down, styles it more(keeps your body in place)......just practice, on a medium sized stepdown, and you'll get it....what i did
You want to know what I did? I just kept hitting jumps and kept on spinning. Eventually it becomes wicked natural and easy to do. Any jumps works, doesn't matter what kind really, it is just the jump you have sessioned the most and is most confortable with.
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find a decent size table set a little spin but mostly look over ur shoulder and down towards the landing then tuck up and grab safety. For me if i can see the landing and where i am in the air its way esier to not spaz a simple grab helps a lot too cuase ur arms wont start flailin lurpee style
yeah I had that '180-180' problem until I realized that looking over your shoulder is bad. don't get me wrong though, you can look around a little bit, but you can't just throw your head around and spin-it completely scetches it out.
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some people wind up with straight arms, i find that to set it its easier to just push your bent arms into it slower, if you whip it, it will set you off balance, so just set, look over your shoulder, and make sure you just keep looking till you spot the landing, if you stop looking halfway through you'll have to pull it aroudn funny... so just spin it smooth man, practice up
Well if you want style... Just practice the more you do something the better you'll get at it. Look over your shoulder, but don't try to set the spin with your head. Instead set the spin with your shoulders and keep looking as you do this. Punch your right arm (spinning left) off across your body, and try to hold it in this position. When you look over your shoulder, instead of looking down at the angle of your jump, look into the air above the lip of the jump. This will naturally cause you to spin 360 instead of 180. Sorry for the lengthiness of this reply. I know all this cause i had the same problem.
There's no set "correct" way to do anything, everyone puts their own style into it, and everyone learns how to do tricks with a different mindset, it's all in your head. The only way to figure it out is to get your ass skiing and eat shit a bunch.
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you have to try it out, and don't be afraid of bailing, because you're going to. all the advice i can give is people tend to fall back when they spin, so try and lean a bit forward to compensate, like do a critical or safety grab or something a bit in front.
^anathema has the best advice. make sure you come into the jump with your weight forward over your toes. remember to POP and turn your shoulders head and hips all in one motion. you don't need to look over your shoulder so much, just tuck up and before you know it your landing will come around and be there waiting for you.
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spin off everything. The more you do it, the more comfortable you get. Throw a safety grab in as well. Grabs force you to stay more compact = faster spins. Once you get comfortable, try them off bigger shit and boom, you got it.
Don't lead w your head, centralize everything. Most of the ppl here have good tips, esp. how spinning off of everything you can find grinds the feeling into your muscle/mental memory, so you can even be guineapigging something with a spin since you've got all the spin speed to air time ratio dialled already.
keep your eyes up. spot the takeoff at 180. dont stop your head, jsut notice it is there. also, be sure to get a nice pop, as that really helps with spin control.
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Practice and confidence. Set your rotation appropiately for the amount of time you have in the air. If you're hitting small jumps, it limits your ability to rotate slower (obviously).
It seems like simple advice but I dealt with the same problem a few years back. After awhile you become VERY comfortable with the spin and you'll naturally "steeze it out," or however you'd like to refer to it.
right off the lip of the jump be looking down and to the left (most likey ur nat way of spinning) and it will just go...grab saftey and it will be smooth. The key is to visulize what ur gonna do in the air and then before u think about doing it just do it. Also when i say look down i dont mean look sraight down at the ground... i just find that if u teach threes to people who have trouble doing them and u are like "just look over ur shoulder" then they end up getting corked and dieing...funny to watch not funny for the skier...thats all im trying to say...and of course practice..once u get one dont stop and if u fall dont get discouraged even if it is a bad fall....that can fuck u up good...u fall and are like "ok im done for the day next time i come out ill just throw them" if u do that u wont and it will take a very long time to master smooth threes...perseistance is key
i did not read any of the posts but heres what i have to say. I'v had that same problem before. I always tried to hard to spin threes. I usually started spinning at the jump. But heres hot to fix it. Pop straight first and wait then spin. It def helped me i dunno about you though