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the marriage between hip hop and skiing

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Krongos
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What does everyone think about this? With the new public enemy, and even raps bein all 'ja rule rules!', theyre beginning to become associated with each other. Personally, I dont like it simply cuz I dont want to be labeled as a wigger because I ski, and with all due respect to the beastie boys and eminem, 90% of all skiers are white and we have no rhythm or ability to rap(except for the above mentioned, as well as the white guy in swollen members).


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Jul 29 2002 9:48PM
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LifeJacket
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Why would you limit your self just because of your skin colour G?

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Jul 29 2002 9:52PM
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Krongos
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im not, just dont wanna be falsely labeled as a wigger and i just dont like things being incorrectly associated.


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Go Red Sox

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Jul 29 2002 9:53PM
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huckster989
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i know what you mean but I haven't ever heard anyone connect the two. In my mind I will always wish that punk rock and skiing would get together!
what are you doing today?
-I'm going skiing
-umm, you do know that the season ended a couple months ago right?
-yeah
-whatever!
*some people will never understand the drive behind skiing

Jul 29 2002 10:00PM
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Casper
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Krongos, your an ignorant individual.

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Jul 29 2002 10:07PM
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hucksplat
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ignorant does not go far enough. neither does stupid.

i don't see how you associate skiing with wiggers. being a white boy who listens to hip hop has nothing to do with being a wigger. being a chump who is copping an image is being a chump who is copping an image.

if you have a problem with someone's image, say that rather then diss a different demographic group. and why would raps' image affect your own? if you're not do-ragging it why would other people assume you're yo?

i love slayer just as much as i do wu tang. what does that make me? a wigger with a mullet?

maybe you're just someone fad following fuck face who has already self justified his personal discrimination of hip hop rather then give it the fair and reasonable trial it deserves. or maybe not. don't judge a book by it's cover kiddo.

oh, and for the record. ja rule is a talentless ugly motherfucker who just happens to shout often.
Jul 29 2002 11:40PM
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Fro-deo
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Very well put James. I totally see where you're coming from.


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Jul 29 2002 11:44PM
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NoTeefa
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Nelly is uglier

I hate hip hop, i'm all about the punk rock, but i'm still gonna buy the the new public enemy's, cause they're a bad ass ski.


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Jul 29 2002 11:50PM
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Krongos
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ok, you got me all wrong. i have nothing against hip hop. jurassic 5 is like one of my favorite groups. i just dont want other people judging me as some guy who 'talks with an accent and grab where my balls are'-eminem because i ski. thats all i was saying.


Dan Maguire

Co-Founder of the Maple Valley Freeride Team, both members going west next season!

Go Red Sox

How many snowboarders does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
10, 1 to do it, and 9 to say 'I can do that.'

'Dude, we're sick. He's pretty sick, but his muscles aren't as big as mine, so you know.'-CR Johnson
Jul 30 2002 12:07AM
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Sean14456
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i totally dont care what people think of me because i ski, its what i love to do, and their thoughts of me aint gonna put me off skiing
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Jul 30 2002 12:53AM
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gravteck
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Skiing has just as many punkers as it does hip hoppers, just from our hill, at a comp you'll hear hatebreed followed by whatever hip hop they have lieing around. And besides the majority of the skiing community is a bunch of well-to-do yuppies.

Ja-rules first album was good, he definitely went downhill.
Jul 30 2002 1:07AM
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petedogg
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So what! I mean do you really care that much what people think of you. Be yourself. And who cares what they think.

- Pete(P Pablo)


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Jul 30 2002 1:09AM
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Sean14456
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pete just said it like it is
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StriderMG
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yeah, if you worry about what people think, then skiin isn't for you, it's about you, the air , the mtn, and all that other good shit, also i don't really see a huge hip ho influnce either, i would think there would be more a rich kid labelin than a wigger. cause most people that i have dealt with think you need to have hella money to be a skiier.

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Jul 30 2002 2:00AM
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Sean14456
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i hate that, when i tell people i ski they think im rich. its ridiculous
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Jul 30 2002 2:01AM
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Balmdogg
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i think krongos was just totally misunderstood.

Jul 30 2002 4:58AM
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wut a bot ja rasta mon?!
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Jul 30 2002 4:03PM
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Sean14456
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ok, now we are rastas
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LifeJacket
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But james don't you pretty much have a mullet?
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Jul 30 2002 4:21PM
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hucksplat
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it's all part of the joke
Jul 30 2002 9:43PM
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bob_dole
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yo, i get what krongo's is saying, same thing goes with the rich kid label too, but for most skiers, they dont really care what theyre 'image' is, as long as they ski theyre set...most of the people who have posted on this forum have made pretty good points though, and i forgot who it was but that thing about listening to slayer and wu tang therefore having to be a wigger with a mullet...funny shit man ! haha
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Jul 31 2002 10:01PM
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Dirty
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krongos seems like a racist to me. mentioning eminem, beastie boys, and swollen members in reguards to skin color.

you are creating the label first off, the label your creating is that white people who listen to hip hop are automatically wiggers.

when in reality, white people who like hip hop are simply white people who like hip hop. funny concept? i think not.

if krongos had it right all skiers would rock leather studded jackets and listen punk rock only.

have an open mind and be your own person, why do you care if you are labeled as a 'wigger', a 'rich kid', a 'redneck' or whatever else people may think?

if someone labels you from the begining then they arent worth knowing, or at least worth taking to heart. live your own life and dont worry about what others think so much.

dmb

Yeahhh, torture motherfucker what?
What? I'll fuckin
I'll fuckin tie you to a fuckin bedpost
with your ass cheeks spread out and shit, Right?
Put a hanger on a fuckin stove and let that shit sit there for like a half hour, Take it off and stick it in your ass slow like
Tssssssss
Jul 31 2002 10:54PM
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Drail
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that was beautiful dirty...

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Jul 31 2002 11:31PM
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Dirty
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i almost forgot to point out.

'white people have no rythym or ability to rap'

what the fuck is this? no rythym? how fuckin lame is that?

all music involves rythym, classical, jazz, hip hop, country, polka, punk. you name the music and it has rythym involved. and also rap is poetry, just put to music.

so what krongos is saying is that white people can niether be musicians or poets. okay good call man, you hit it right on the money on this one.

dmb

Yeahhh, torture motherfucker what?
What? I'll fuckin
I'll fuckin tie you to a fuckin bedpost
with your ass cheeks spread out and shit, Right?
Put a hanger on a fuckin stove and let that shit sit there for like a half hour, Take it off and stick it in your ass slow like
Tssssssss
Jul 31 2002 11:46PM
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Line1260
Posts: 1946 - Karma: 14
dirty is a prophet, i swear. fuck labeling. i got short hair, wear boots and listen to loud music so everyone thinks im some type of kkk/american history X type. they dont even care to notice my large amount of non caucasian friends or my s.h.a.r.p patch (SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudice). i have skied in my tight ass levis and leather jacket with spikes before, and it just isnt comfortable. i dont like hip hop at all by the way


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Jul 31 2002 11:47PM
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dddddddddd
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wiggers are gay


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Aug 1 2002 12:07AM
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dddddddddd
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it doesnt get anymore politically correct than that


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Aug 1 2002 12:11AM
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l_KeViN_l
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dirty good points.. but I kno what krongos is saying, hip hop is being associated with new school skiing, but that doesn't mean you have to listen to hip hop or live that lifestyle, everyone associates things with other things, but that doesn't mean its true, just like I used to think all snowboarders were skier haters.. what I mean is jsut because some people who push newschool like hip hop doesn't mean you need too.
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'Don't like hesh - Don't like rap - kicked ol' sally cos she fat - I'm a jerk I'm a punk took a shower cos I stunk - smoked a bong killed a cat - had my nuts attacked by rats dad got nude - I wore a thong - for a hobby I make bombs' Tom DeLounge
Aug 1 2002 12:12AM
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HotCarl
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dear krongos,
i very much so understand what you are saying. each year i see baggier pants, more puffy jackets and more and more rap in every video. I love rap. but i wear tight pants and also listen to dance music. I think what you are saying is that skiers are slowly being tied to ONLY rap instead of all genres of music. and i tink that in part we have the videos to blame for this. i skatebaord. alot. and i have skated for a while now. I've seen probably close to a hundred skate videos, and i've made notes on how they have changed over time. the point of videos is to make a sport look cool. so videos often put 'cool' music in the soundtrack (it makes sense). skateboard videos used to do this, and some still do. but for the most part videos now use music that fits the skater, rather than music that is cool. in ski videos, the skier were almost forced to fit the music, instead of have the music fit them. because of this many pro skiers are 'wiigers' which is lame but not entirely their fault. all i have to say is, hopefully it's just a phase. i mean, wouldn't it be cool to see a piss drunx of skiing? the answer is yes.
thanks,
matthew
Aug 1 2002 12:17AM
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Dirty
Posts: 679 - Karma: 12
D to tha M to tha mothafuckin B eatch!

With all due respect to the game, I'm the P-H-enom
Not ready for prime time, be-yond, extinction
Change your way of thinkin, or be-gone
fast the fuck out, somethin stinkin
Could it be the skunk, or could it be that body in the trunk
of my Lincoln, Continental style pop the pussy like a pimple
I'm fed up, I put it in your ear and fuck ya head up
Turnin up the temperature, hold them kids that entered the
36th, master mix shit
Biohazardous, pretentious
Do it for the chemically imbalanced
State your business, pay me at the door
Iron Man, hear me roar on twelve inches
Shell shocked soldier in the trenches
Fire in the hole game commences
Third string rappers play the benches
Reload, there'll be no repentance for souls
Just life sentence, with no chance for parole
and that's real
Aug 1 2002 12:32AM
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l_KeViN_l
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that was a hardcore rhyme


'Don't like hesh - Don't like rap - kicked ol' sally cos she fat - I'm a jerk I'm a punk took a shower cos I stunk - smoked a bong killed a cat - had my nuts attacked by rats dad got nude - I wore a thong - for a hobby I make bombs' Tom DeLounge
Aug 1 2002 12:40AM
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Drail
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dirty and others have said what needs to be said... all i gotta say is - even if you dont' like hip hop... if you won't be friends with someone just because they do, than i'm sorry, but you are one of the lowest people i know. who gives a shit how someone else wants to live their life? if they got a cool personality than they are cool... don't matter if they are a punk rocker, hip hopper, or a hippy love child... it's all the same in the end.

i thought you would be above that, but i guess not... i mean, you are a hick who lives in the woods out in the middle of nowhere

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aka - highschool

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the baby blue box - GOING RICKTER!!!
Aug 1 2002 1:36PM
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Krongos
Posts: 5214 - Karma: 47
whatever, the only people who actually know what im talkin about are happywhenhard and hotcarl. everyone else thinks im saying i hate rap(which i dont), i hate people who like rap(which i dont) and i care too much about what other people think(which might be true, i casnt judge myself on this one). i guess its my fault though, cuz maybe the original post is really confusing and worded wrong.


Dan Maguire

Co-Founder of the Maple Valley Freeride Team, both members going west next season!

Go Red Sox

How many snowboarders does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
10, 1 to do it, and 9 to say 'I can do that.'

'Dude, we're sick. He's pretty sick, but his muscles aren't as big as mine, so you know.'-CR Johnson
Aug 1 2002 6:23PM
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Dirty
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my point is that if i want to wear my pants low, and twist my cap to the side then who are you too judge me? keep your ideas to yourself and let us live our own lives, big deal if alot of pros dig rap, pros do have alot to say about what music goes into movies. so thats that, you want to hear what pros listen to, buy stereotype and you'll see what each rider likes.

dmb

With all due respect to the game, I'm the P-H-enom
Not ready for prime time, be-yond, extinction
Change your way of thinkin, or be-gone
fast the fuck out, somethin stinkin
Could it be the skunk, or could it be that body in the trunk
of my Lincoln, Continental style pop the pussy like a pimple
I'm fed up, I put it in your ear and fuck ya head up
Turnin up the temperature, hold them kids that entered the
36th, master mix shit
Biohazardous, pretentious
Do it for the chemically imbalanced
State your business, pay me at the door
Iron Man, hear me roar on twelve inches
Shell shocked soldier in the trenches
Fire in the hole game commences
Third string rappers play the benches
Reload, there'll be no repentance for souls
Just life sentence, with no chance for parole
and that's real
Aug 1 2002 11:01PM
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therealjerk
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yep. i didnt even read dirtys last post but he has spoken the truth. besides, you are only a wigger/poser/oreo/etc. only if you believe it yourself.


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Aug 1 2002 11:15PM
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BrodyLeven
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i like rap
i like sking


some people dont like either
some like one or the other

some people like cheetos and milk,
some lke cheetos and water.
some like one or the other

who cares?


Brody
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Aug 1 2002 11:24PM
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Professor_McGriff
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I say, the best way to quiet the closeminded is to ignore them.


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Aug 2 2002 8:50PM
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Mashed_Penguin_NZ
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Is it realy an issue?

Listen to what you listen to I don't really think anybody is going to say 'ooooo hes a skiier, he must like hip hop and wishes he was black'. Come on.



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Aug 3 2002 11:47PM
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TTflip
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I dont think there is one type of music asociated with skiing. Its all about what you personally like, and if other people dont like the can get f**ked. Skiing will only progress if people keep it real and stay true to them selves.
Aug 5 2002 12:41AM
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castlerock
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i didn't read any of the above posts because im too tired, so sorry if someone already made this point.

i didn't think newchool skiing is looked at (by society, and if at all) at the same level as something as mainstream as hip hop is now. now if that made sense to any of you, im trying to say that no one will ever think of us as a bunch of wiggers....... even those of us who where dew-rags and lanyards.

~Chris

You know something that would really make me applaud? A guy gets stuck in quicksand, then sinks, then suddenly comes shooting out, riding on water skis. How do they do that?
Aug 5 2002 1:02AM
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Jibtech
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hey hotcarl-

if you asked most of the young pro skiers out there what kind of music they would prefer in their segment they would say rap. It is hardly being forced onto them. yes skiing seems to be a bunch of little white boys that really like rap. Not a bad thing, just a thing...

Personaly, I wish skiing would get married to Britney Spears and or Queen.
Aug 5 2002 2:21AM
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HotCarl
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dave,
if you asked me what my favorite music was i may say rap as well. I'm not disputing the fact that rap is a rad genre of music. I also did not entirely mean what i said earlier. i said that rap is forced on young skiers by movies. i suppose a more accurate comment would be that rap was in a sense forced on all of us. you see, 'extreme' or 'alternative' sports necesitate 'alternative music'. now, videos tried punk, and it worked okay, but rap seemed to fit better in some cases. my only complaint is that we have now stopped looking. rap sounded good some of it is relatively 'alternative', now it is the dominant genre of music in most ski movies. because it appears a lot, many are influenced by it. I didn't know about mos def before the game, moka only before propoganda, dislocated styles before ski movie 2. I can't speak for others, but movies have shown me new music. but i feel that for some, videos have portrayed rap as the 'only' music suitable for skiing. so i believe that rap heavily influences the youth of skiing. the fact that rap is often the only influence is what makes me angry. don't limit yourself. do what you find fun. but if what you find fun is what someone has told you to find fun, take a good look at yourself.
love,
matthew
ps-
dear dirty,
i sag my pants too, but as stated earlier i wear tight pants as well. do what you want, but confining yourself t a single style or direction in life makes things boring.
Aug 8 2002 11:09PM
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Capurnicus
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dirty had it, who gives a fuck what other people think of you especially those who would base stupid shit like that
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Aug 9 2002 12:42AM
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ChrisMuldoon
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no one listens to ja rule and if you do i feel for you.
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Aug 9 2002 2:27PM
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CalgaryJibber
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wow! this is news, I always associated teeny bop when I thought about skiing! like Tiffany, and
N-K-O-T-B

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Keep on Keepin on
Aug 9 2002 2:50PM
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Maximumsushi
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Has anyone seen JP Walker's seg in 'The Resistance'? I know it's a snowboard movie, but it's a similar to this discussion and pretty funny.
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So I keep my mind still, like the still of night
Now who in the world do you want to fight
It's against the system we should unite
Aug 9 2002 3:24PM
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CalgaryJibber
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what carl's sayin is when skiing is no longer alternative, and very mainstream, well listen to POP! or techno!

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Aug 9 2002 3:34PM
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rodeo-nexis
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dirty, go write a goddamn book. never heard of short and sweet?


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Aug 9 2002 5:52PM
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Jibtech
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Don't worry kids, Anthonys segment in happy dayz is pure hate. No pussy rap or R and B shit.
Aug 9 2002 8:19PM
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Anger
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FUCK YOU YOUR GAY GO TO HELL, VANILLA ICE IS DOPE AS FUCK, YOU KNOW YOU'RE A FAN, SHOW SOME LOVE YOU FUCKIN HATER. WHERES THE HELL'S HAZE AT... BOYS ARE SEXY...BOY BUTTER YAAAAAAAAAY
Aug 10 2002 5:33AM
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Anger
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if vanilla knocked you up what do you think the baby would look like...just think about it...
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