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P-White
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Over three years ago Dahrkness and myself helped develop a much needed pow ski with Rossignol. After much anticipation that ski is now available in a very limited run to all of you. I won't go into details but just know that these come with a sealed stamp of approval by me and Dahrk. Very proud to announce The Rossignol Blackops.


https://blackops.rossignol.com
Nov 12 2016 3:43PM
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Headless-G
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Looks really dope man !!!
Nov 12 2016 4:14PM
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Bassin
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So sick!
Nov 12 2016 4:34PM
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.otto.
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If you click the link you will see this lol
Nov 12 2016 5:11PM
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Puzzled
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pure sex, whish I could get me a pair
Nov 12 2016 9:21PM
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rsvp
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just got my pair last week, so hyped
Nov 12 2016 10:07PM
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p-fo
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Got these in our shop. Not gonna lie, this ski looks unreal. It's like they stuck the rocker profile of the Helldorado on the Sickle and stiffened it almost as much then blended the tips with the 7 Series. They only come in 183 which is fuckin perfect for me. These are built to have FKS 180s put on them and railed through everything at high Mach. Oh and it's all black except for the Rossi logos. Mmmmm...
Nov 13 2016 5:06AM
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loganimlach
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.otto.





If you click the link you will see this lol


Making ladies drip from coast to coast
Nov 13 2016 9:17AM
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pduncan
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Mine just got here a couple days ago. So stoked to ski em!
Nov 13 2016 12:04PM
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Session
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All the specs are backed out.......
Nov 13 2016 12:08PM
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FUUUCK
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SessionAll the specs are backed out.......


Yeah wtf guys
Nov 13 2016 12:31PM
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.otto.
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loganimlachMaking ladies drip from coast to coast


and men too that is one handsome mofo
Nov 13 2016 12:38PM
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3mania
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SessionAll the specs are backed out.......


Not all... 186cm long and 118 underfoot. Looks like a sick powder stick for full growed men.
Nov 13 2016 1:30PM
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DUKES
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Little wider sickle/s6?
Nov 13 2016 1:35PM
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gapersarefriends
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Is it gonna be available in longer sizes ever?
Nov 13 2016 2:13PM
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P-White
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I don't think they will come in any longer than a 186. However there is a 176 in the works...
Nov 13 2016 2:44PM
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.lencon
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SessionAll the specs are backed out.......


I was disappointed with that too.

But then I realized it doesn't really matter. I'm sure they're specs that match up with the 186 length and 118 waist.

And to be fair, I only know the size and waist width of my Kartel and Jeffrey's. and every other ski I own aha. I don't memorize the tip/tail width, weight, turning radius, etc.

I'm sure they wanted to have that "black ops" aspect of it and realized that most people only care about waist width and length.
Nov 13 2016 2:52PM
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hot.pocket
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.lenconI was disappointed with that too.

But then I realized it doesn't really matter. I'm sure they're specs that match up with the 186 length and 118 waist.

And to be fair, I only know the size and waist width of my Kartel and Jeffrey's. and every other ski I own aha. I don't memorize the tip/tail width, weight, turning radius, etc.

I'm sure they wanted to have that "black ops" aspect of it and realized that most people only care about waist width and length.


Zoom in quite a bit and you can read almost everything that's blacked out.

146 / 118 / 140

Although having a radius of: pivoty smear-fest is ridiculously vague.
Nov 13 2016 3:59PM
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gravel
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SessionAll the specs are backed out.......


I think that's the point
Nov 13 2016 6:46PM
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.lencon
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hot.pocketZoom in quite a bit and you can read almost everything that's blacked out.

146 / 118 / 140

Although having a radius of: pivoty smear-fest is ridiculously vague.


Yeah I didn't zoom in.

I was just saying that most people could care less what the tip/tail width is and the radius. Its always something I check out before I buy, but I doubt I'm going to ever read a pair of specs on a ski that looks fun and then be turned away.
Nov 13 2016 6:58PM
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P-White
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Turning radius is exceptionally smeary.
Nov 13 2016 9:52PM
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gapersarefriends
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P-WhiteI don't think they will come in any longer than a 186. However there is a 176 in the works...


Fuck, I'd buy a 190+ immediately
Nov 14 2016 12:44AM
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freeskibum82
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Rossi has never been known for their fit and finish on skis, especially their park skis. i have the same in my scratches and slats but they hold up fine. if it bothers you that much, just put epoxy in it or even just clear nail polish to seal it.
Nov 14 2016 8:28AM
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profa_212
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.lenconYeah I didn't zoom in.

I was just saying that most people could care less what the tip/tail width is and the radius. Its always something I check out before I buy, but I doubt I'm going to ever read a pair of specs on a ski that looks fun and then be turned away.


Radius is one of the first things i look at in a ski. I would absolutely never buy a brand new without knowing its radius.
Nov 14 2016 12:28PM
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Session
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Profahoben_212Radius is one of the first things i look at in a ski. I would absolutely never buy a brand new without knowing its radius.


It's a pretty important thing for people who look for more than "best ski I've ever ridden" when buying.
Nov 14 2016 12:33PM
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p-fo
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Turn radius is high teens I'm pretty sure.
Nov 14 2016 1:39PM
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SofaKingSick
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SessionIt's a pretty important thing for people who look for more than "best ski I've ever ridden" when buying.


what arent you getting?

tip: best ever
waist: 118
tail: best ever
turning radius: best ever
Nov 14 2016 2:06PM
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.lencon
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Profahoben_212Radius is one of the first things i look at in a ski. I would absolutely never buy a brand new without knowing its radius.


I feel you there. I wouldn't buy a pow ski that had a 14m radius or a 50m radius, but I feel like these are somewhere around 25m just like every other pow ski. Ya know? I definetly look at them before I buy, but the majority of people don't. And I doubt the turning radius of the blackops is something I would be turned off by. That's what I'm trying to get at
Nov 14 2016 4:17PM
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AlpacaEnthusiast
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do they ship international? i kinda need them!
Nov 14 2016 4:29PM
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smoketoomuch
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Calculator to work out turning radius for those who are interested.

http://member.fis-ski.com/skicalc.htm
Nov 14 2016 8:00PM
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Tasty_Bread
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whats the flex like? Stiff or soft? Similar skis?
Nov 15 2016 1:26AM
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skidemon22
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Tasty_Breadwhats the flex like? Stiff or soft? Similar skis?


id say a mid-flex, maybe a bit stiffer. Not like the blend, which is super soft and playful. but its not nearly as stiff as, say, the volkl mantra (which is just a board with plastic and metal on one side haha)
Nov 16 2016 2:15AM
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p-fo
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Tasty_Breadwhats the flex like? Stiff or soft? Similar skis?


Think Helldorado stiffness and rocker profile but Sickle/7 series sidecut/tip shape.
Nov 16 2016 3:11AM
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hot.pocket
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smoketoomuchCalculator to work out turning radius for those who are interested.

http://member.fis-ski.com/skicalc.htm


Still need to know where the widest point of the tip tail is as well as how far back the recommended mount point is.

In the end it's silly that the end consumer needs to do calculations to determine basic things like sidecut radius and mount location.

Should be renamed to the Rossignol Trumpops...it's the best, it's just the best ski. Best sidecut radius, best dimensions, best smeary-fest-ness. Trust me, it's the best.
Nov 21 2016 2:39PM
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FishChowder
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I really wish I lived in a place that actually gets more snow than rain in the winter, unfortunately if it snows, it is almost always followed by rain that day or the next. No need for pow skis here but those look sexy as fuck.
Nov 21 2016 5:55PM
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scratchskier321
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hot.pocketStill need to know where the widest point of the tip tail is as well as how far back the recommended mount point is.

In the end it's silly that the end consumer needs to do calculations to determine basic things like sidecut radius and mount location.

Should be renamed to the Rossignol Trumpops...it's the best, it's just the best ski. Best sidecut radius, best dimensions, best smeary-fest-ness. Trust me, it's the best.



lol, most consumers haven't a fuck what radius means or where to mount their skis. Have you ever read gear talk thread?
Dec 11 2016 2:07AM
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PeteyWykes
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Curious as to why the page is advertising Look's Pivot as opposed to Rossi FKS' ... not that theyre any different but still - its a rossi ski youd think theyd want you to go full program.
Dec 11 2016 3:19PM
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SammyDubz
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PeteyWykesCurious as to why the page is advertising Look's Pivot as opposed to Rossi FKS' ... not that theyre any different but still - its a rossi ski youd think theyd want you to go full program.


fks is no longer a thing pivots only.
Dec 11 2016 3:37PM
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PeteyWykes
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SammyDubzfks is no longer a thing pivots only.


wasnt aware. thanks for the input. they still doing axials or completely backing out of bindings?
Dec 11 2016 4:17PM
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SammyDubz
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PeteyWykeswasnt aware. thanks for the input. they still doing axials or completely backing out of bindings?


completely out of the market I believe. rossi website sells look binders now
Dec 11 2016 4:39PM
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hot.pocket
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scratchskier321lol, most consumers haven't a fuck what radius means or where to mount their skis. Have you ever read gear talk thread?


A lot of customers actually do.
Dec 11 2016 8:32PM
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gravel
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hot.pocketA lot of customers actually do.


So then buy a different ski if you're not down with their marketing strategy
Dec 11 2016 9:17PM
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KneeDrop
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hot.pocketStill need to know where the widest point of the tip tail is as well as how far back the recommended mount point is.

In the end it's silly that the end consumer needs to do calculations to determine basic things like sidecut radius and mount location.


I love to gear nerd out over stats and shit, but in the end it's all just a starting point anyway. When you factor in effective edge vs effective edge on rocker, and variable flex patterns, it all goes to shit. Once I saw/flexed these skis, I ordered them immediately. It didn't matter what the exact turning radius or tip/tail width were, it looked like a fun ski, and I knew I'd have fun skiing it.
Doin all the measurements / calculations / guessing has been really fun. A test of my 'knowledge' and experience, and somethin I've never done before without the answers. I'm excited to find out how close my numbers are.

Tldr : they look fun, that was enough for me
Dec 11 2016 9:41PM
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scratchskier321
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hot.pocketA lot of customers actually do.


a lot of customers also post threads in gear talk "shud i git jj k2 rossi line with wut boots or marker or fks, oh my gosh they mounted them backwards fuckk wut do i do now"
Dec 11 2016 9:58PM
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californiagrown
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3maniaNot all... 186cm long and 118 underfoot. Looks like a sick powder stick for full growed men.


A 186 pow ski is a ski "for full growed men"?

That size is for folks 5'10" and under. And now they're offering an even smaller ski too? Sucks they only make sizes fit for medium sized people and smaller.

Also, weight would be an interesting stat to hear from them. Always cool to see what a pro model ski turns out to be. I'm looking forward to some in depth reviews
Dec 11 2016 10:26PM
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gravel
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californiagrownA 186 pow ski is a ski "for full growed men"?

That size is for folks 5'10" and under. And now they're offering an even smaller ski too? Sucks they only make sizes fit for medium sized people and smaller.

Also, weight would be an interesting stat to hear from them. Always cool to see what a pro model ski turns out to be. I'm looking forward to some in depth reviews


Don't be an elitist, 186 is a perfectly acceptable length ski for people taller than 5'10". Totally fine if you personally prefer a longer ski than that, but what's true for you isn't true for everyone.
Dec 12 2016 12:26AM
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rsvp
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californiagrownThat size is for folks 5'10" and under.


Dec 12 2016 12:33AM
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scratchskier321
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rsvp


agreed. 186 is plenty
Dec 12 2016 12:41AM
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profa_212
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scratchskier321agreed. 186 is plenty


Not plenty...most people at or above 6 foot who aren't a feather are gunna want longer than 186. I'm 5'10 and the smallest I will go is 186
Dec 12 2016 12:46AM
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