Gore parks

theabortionatorOh goody! I do love these gore threads. I might have to come check it out.

I wonder if anyone can get me a comp ticket. I'm not paying to ride that place. I'll ask my friends. I'm a gentleman though and will trade them beer.

But please post a picture if you have one. I need to see this.

we all did a photoshoot with their gaper photographer this past weekend, and she wanted us to all go off all 3 at the same time. we only did the 2 side ones, since we would hit each other if we did all 3 but the pic should be up soon of it. will post it when its up.

d__hwe all did a photoshoot with their gaper photographer this past weekend, and she wanted us to all go off all 3 at the same time. we only did the 2 side ones, since we would hit each other if we did all 3 but the pic should be up soon of it. will post it when its up.

Gaper photographer chick sounds awesome!

This is what I love about gores parks. and why I'll shoot down anyone who tries to argue with me about them.

This is a work of art. This has nothing to do with how many staff they have. Obviously enough staff to put in 3 pole jams in one spot, but just a design issue where they lost touch their tether to reality along the way.

theabortionatorThis is a work of art. This has nothing to do with how many staff they have. Obviously enough staff to put in 3 pole jams in one spot, but just a design issue where they lost touch their tether to reality along the way.

the kid that said they are trying their best and doing there best and saying the features are good will not even str8 air the jumps. but we are just spoiled brats bitching about a park. like you said, they have enough people to put in this but they are just too stupid to do anything good.

d__hthe kid that said they are trying their best and doing there best and saying the features are good will not even str8 air the jumps. but we are just spoiled brats bitching about a park. like you said, they have enough people to put in this but they are just too stupid to do anything good.

Idk, I don't want to get in an e war between members. I can understand wanting to defend your friends.
I just know that regardless, gores parks are lollerblades. I mean the rail jam we had at west, I was the only employee. Not the only day crew guy, the only park guy. Thankfully a couple friends were able to help me move the rails because I physically couldn't even lift them by myself.

But even if we're saying they don't have the man power. They installed 3 features right there, it's easy to say that those other 2 could have been set up better. So it's less about man power budget or any other excuse, and far more about not having stupid ideas of how to set up a park.

I was really really bummed I didn't have another person or two on staff at west this year. I was looking forward to showing jore up huge. We didn't have a great park, but at times it was alright I guess, and I never set 3 pole jams on top of each other so that's a plus.

theabortionatorIdk, I don't want to get in an e war between members. I can understand wanting to defend your friends.
I just know that regardless, gores parks are lollerblades. I mean the rail jam we had at west, I was the only employee. Not the only day crew guy, the only park guy. Thankfully a couple friends were able to help me move the rails because I physically couldn't even lift them by myself.

But even if we're saying they don't have the man power. They installed 3 features right there, it's easy to say that those other 2 could have been set up better. So it's less about man power budget or any other excuse, and far more about not having stupid ideas of how to set up a park.

I was really really bummed I didn't have another person or two on staff at west this year. I was looking forward to showing jore up huge. We didn't have a great park, but at times it was alright I guess, and I never set 3 pole jams on top of each other so that's a plus.

the rail jam set up was better than anything jore mountain resorts has had. and if jmr only had 1 person working it would be 10x worse than what you made at west mountain resorts.

Hey it could be worse... it could be like willard where after i left they just dont have a park anymore... not that we really even had a park when i was building it anyways...

But anyway, thats a place that really does not care about park. They only care about racing and now their "freestlye" moguls team (which are actually way worse than any racer ive ever dealt with)

TamasHey it could be worse... it could be like willard where after i left they just dont have a park anymore... not that we really even had a park when i was building it anyways...

But anyway, thats a place that really does not care about park. They only care about racing and now their "freestlye" moguls team (which are actually way worse than any racer ive ever dealt with)

As much as I've heard about the place over the years I've never been there and still know very little about it.

theabortionatorAs much as I've heard about the place over the years I've never been there and still know very little about it.

They really like their lesson programs there... Also the head groomer (who was my boss in the park and groomed it) was alot like how that guy johara was/is. I think ive had 5 or 6 setups over 2 years that i built with out the help of a cat be wrecked by his cat driving. he ran over a 50ft a frame rail one year and it hasnt been touched since. plus those rails were so bad and i always tried to get them grounded but nothing. (i couldnt do that at the time because they restricted me from being able to do that and i was barely 18.) I tried and even found us new rails but they said i couldnt put them in because they didnt have skirting. they were gonna get it but that never happened 3 years later... I tried as best a i could to move that park in a new direction but i really couldnt at the time.

d__hlol there is another one to the right of it. 3 pole jams next to each other, 2 pointing towards each other.

first run going up the gondola at Gore I laughed out loud when I saw 3 weird ass looking pole jams right in a row just pointing in slightly different directions. Also the fact that they have a flat-up box jerry rigged by having 3 flat boxes in a row end to end with the last one angled up just a little is hilarious

frosted_flakesfirst run going up the gondola at Gore I laughed out loud when I saw 3 weird ass looking pole jams right in a row just pointing in slightly different directions. Also the fact that they have a flat-up box jerry rigged by having 3 flat boxes in a row end to end with the last one angled up just a little is hilarious

Yeah. II don't get it. Also, at least imo, aiming 2 feature at each other is everything you don't want to do. Like putting jumps set up like an x. I guess you would generally know if another person is going to hit the other one since they're too big for most of the people who ride the park but still.

As far as the jibs for cribs one. I don't get those things and why they're in the gore park. IT could be me but they felt kind of bouncy when I 50-50'd them years ago. Also no skirting and 3 of them in a weird combo just looks sketchy imo. Not saying it can't be set up to be fun but it just doesn't look clean at all.

I really don't feel like are parks were any worse there 10 years ago,some of the stuff might have been better even, and that was a totally different game back then. Fuck, we were building jumps by hand there.

Gore definitely has a "time capsule terrain park"

Mr.noodleLj, you have no reason to be arguing, even if the rails were set up right you still wouldn't hit them. I haven't seen you hit any jumps there and youre known for saying "it's too rutted" or that you "want to check it out first"

Shots fired

theabortionatorYeah. II don't get it. Also, at least imo, aiming 2 feature at each other is everything you don't want to do. Like putting jumps set up like an x. I guess you would generally know if another person is going to hit the other one since they're too big for most of the people who ride the park but still.

As far as the jibs for cribs one. I don't get those things and why they're in the gore park. IT could be me but they felt kind of bouncy when I 50-50'd them years ago. Also no skirting and 3 of them in a weird combo just looks sketchy imo. Not saying it can't be set up to be fun but it just doesn't look clean at all.

I really don't feel like are parks were any worse there 10 years ago,some of the stuff might have been better even, and that was a totally different game back then. Fuck, we were building jumps by hand there.

Gore definitely has a "time capsule terrain park"

There's like 10 serious park skiiers at gore and I think it's safe to say that I'm the only one who has hit the bigger two cannons. I've never seen any ski tracks going on to them ever

Mr.noodleThere's like 10 serious park skiers at gore and I think it's safe to say that I'm the only one who has hit the bigger two cannons. I've never seen any ski tracks going on to them ever

Gore actually kind of used to have a park scene. A small one but a fun one. I'm hoping to go this week if they're open.

But yeah, they aren't very good at building things to fit the demographic of the mt jore park skier.

theabortionatorGore actually kind of used to have a park scene. A small one but a fun one. I'm hoping to go this week if they're open.

But yeah, they aren't very good at building things to fit the demographic of the mt jore park skier.

Grew up skiing Gore and can say if you're driving up to Gore from the Capital Region to ride park, what is wrong with you?

I see these threads every year about how Gore's park blows blah blah blah and just shake my head. If your actually serious about progressing in the park, bite the bullet and drive your ass the extra 45 min to Whiteface. They've been putting in work on their park for the last 5 years, garnering attention through social media, hosting events, coming up with creative features/setups, as well as producing some actual sick skiers. Whereas Gore's park scene has been dead for the last 8-10 years, and I'm sorry, but no one that skis park at Gore is good.

I like to believe most of the kids in this thread are probably in highschool from the Capital Region, which probably means they never learned to actually ski the entire mountain before starting to get into the park scene, and complain about park set ups because of the one weekend they went to Carinthia for pay your age day. However, Gore (in my opinion) has arguably the best tree skiing in the Northeast, and this is coming from someone that's fortunately had the opportunity to go to UVM and ski the likes of Stowe, Sugarbush, Jay Peak, MRG, and various other mountains in New England.

True OG Gore park skiers will remember the days of Gore-E-Gully, where the park was actually serviced by a double chair, the halfpipe on Jamboree, the jump line on Upper Sleighride, when it got its first flat box (which I'm pretty sure still exists somehow), the Skitoga crew, the big air event they had at the end of every season at the bottom of the mountain, the beef between the park kids and race kids with their Karbon red jackets w/ removable sleeves (thought those were pretty tight actually), where EC Headwear and all of its sick condom beanies/designs were born before it became Eastern Collective and created aux cords for J.Crew, the Ski Bowl park, and those tiny little dark green flat bars that were the first park features Gore ever had. The list goes on.

Long story short, go to Whiteface if you want to have access to jumps and rails with proper setups and differing levels of difficulty with a seriously dedicated park crew, and got to Gore if you want to have access to some of the best glades, cliffs, and steeps, and maybe you'll even be luck enough to find a 1/4th of the hidden tree skiing and drops Gore has to offer.


Feel free to get nostalgic looking at some throwback Gore footy on my account back when I went to Shaker, or check our old "crew" vimeo page
https://vimeo.com/overshotprods

psizzleGrew up skiing Gore and can say if you're driving up to Gore from the Capital Region to ride park, what is wrong with you?

I see these threads every year about how Gore's park blows blah blah blah and just shake my head. If your actually serious about progressing in the park, bite the bullet and drive your ass the extra 45 min to Whiteface. They've been putting in work on their park for the last 5 years, garnering attention through social media, hosting events, coming up with creative features/setups, as well as producing some actual sick skiers. Whereas Gore's park scene has been dead for the last 8-10 years, and I'm sorry, but no one that skis park at Gore is good.

I like to believe most of the kids in this thread are probably in highschool from the Capital Region, which probably means they never learned to actually ski the entire mountain before starting to get into the park scene, and complain about park set ups because of the one weekend they went to Carinthia for pay your age day. However, Gore (in my opinion) has arguably the best tree skiing in the Northeast, and this is coming from someone that's fortunately had the opportunity to go to UVM and ski the likes of Stowe, Sugarbush, Jay Peak, MRG, and various other mountains in New England.

True OG Gore park skiers will remember the days of Gore-E-Gully, where the park was actually serviced by a double chair, the halfpipe on Jamboree, the jump line on Upper Sleighride, when it got its first flat box (which I'm pretty sure still exists somehow), the Skitoga crew, the big air event they had at the end of every season at the bottom of the mountain, the beef between the park kids and race kids with their Karbon red jackets w/ removable sleeves (thought those were pretty tight actually), where EC Headwear and all of its sick condom beanies/designs were born before it became Eastern Collective and created aux cords for J.Crew, the Ski Bowl park, and those tiny little dark green flat bars that were the first park features Gore ever had. The list goes on.

Long story short, go to Whiteface if you want to have access to jumps and rails with proper setups and differing levels of difficulty with a seriously dedicated park crew, and got to Gore if you want to have access to some of the best glades, cliffs, and steeps, and maybe you'll even be luck enough to find a 1/4th of the hidden tree skiing and drops Gore has to offer.


Feel free to get nostalgic looking at some throwback Gore footy on my account back when I went to Shaker, or check our old "crew" vimeo page
https://vimeo.com/overshotprods

As far as whiteface I think I mentioned it several time that their park crew has been killing it the last few years. Also I like gore as a mtn, The upper mtn has some great terrain without lift lines and if you know where to go some great tree skiing both on the map and off.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/819275/Phantogram-Charlie-Everywhere---When-I--39-m-Small-skitoga-mount-jore

^ Matty B (EC Headwear) sighting at 2:00. Also I built that jump by hand. At least half of it was snow farmed from the woods. I got in trouble because it was supposed to be a 2 foot snowbank called "big and bigger" if anyone remember that bullshit.

I think that was 07/08. the next year there was still a pretty good park scene spilling over from previous years but me and Dane left for west mtn in 08/09 and that was also the year Carinthia happened. I had a pass to gore that year and barely used it.

Gore e gully was the shit. It was like it's own little world over there. I miss that place.

It's nice that gore finally dedicated some real estate to the parks. I'm actually surprised at how much prime space they're using. 2 long trails central from the triple. That said it's kind of a waste as nobody even goes there to ski park.

Oh yeah, here's cory, the mastermind behind skitoga at west on saturday.

I wonder how many years it's been since "skitoga.com" went offline. Has to have been at least 7. Crazy how time flies.

And I think goes first rail was a tube in the ground on stokes possibly.Also a blue rail unskirted the next season but the gully might have been up and running by then.

And I think both the flat box and rainbow box are still alive. I found an album of pictures at my parents house from that box the first year in the gully and some shots of lower sleighride.

Fucking nostalgia. I'd love to get back there on a pow day sometimes. But honestly it's sad to see the park program in the state it's in.

gore turned down an offer from burton this season to build the stash at jore but they turned it down because "its a family mountain" fucking retards.

My hill in Ohio has had a fucking shit park for years now, I know the feel. The rails are almost all sticky, setup poorly and the shape of our jumps are absolutely hysterical. In all the places I've skied I've never hit such sticky rails, they must literally try to make them sticky. They seem to put in less effort each year. I would do t myself but I don't have time for that shit. I live 5 minutes from this hill for about half the year and I'm not even buying a pass again. You gore folks should do the same. It really grinds my gears when resorts drop the ball so hard for years and people defend them because " they're my friends and they're trying." Well clearly they're doing sometng very wrong.

its the same deal here. We have the manpower, the money and the features, they are just so poor at managing shit at my hill that they can't even coordinate builds well. Maybe one rebuild per season. This hill doesn't even have good terrain. The vertical is 200 ft. They SHOULD have a decent park at least.

d__hgore turned down an offer from burton this season to build the stash at jore but they turned it down because "its a family mountain" fucking retards.

I haven't heard anything about this and have my doubts as they put a lot into their own wood park for this season. So I don't see why they would turn down a deal like that if they're going to build one anyway. I mean it's gore so nothing would surprise me, but Idk.

Jackson hole has a way better park than gore. That's amusing to me. I think they had at least 2 stashes if not 3 as well.

I'm hoping to go up before I leave to see this wood park they built. I heard it looks pretty awesome, except gore built it so some things are super super sketch.

Idk the fact that they put the time into that and have the trails they have makes me wonder why they do the things they do.

If you're going to actually "try" why not do it right?

idk when gore is opening but I might be there and waste once or twice before I leave. Anyone going to be around?

I'm interested to see what kind of sketchy contraptions they'll have. Get yur tetanus shots boys!

theabortionatoridk when gore is opening but I might be there and waste once or twice before I leave. Anyone going to be around?

I'm interested to see what kind of sketchy contraptions they'll have. Get yur tetanus shots boys!

supposed to be open this weekend, well a few shitty set ups at the bottom of the gondy... with that being said MIGHT SEE YA THERE

psizzleGrew up skiing Gore and can say if you're driving up to Gore from the Capital Region to ride park, what is wrong with you?

I see these threads every year about how Gore's park blows blah blah blah and just shake my head. If your actually serious about progressing in the park, bite the bullet and drive your ass the extra 45 min to Whiteface. They've been putting in work on their park for the last 5 years, garnering attention through social media, hosting events, coming up with creative features/setups, as well as producing some actual sick skiers. Whereas Gore's park scene has been dead for the last 8-10 years, and I'm sorry, but no one that skis park at Gore is good.

I like to believe most of the kids in this thread are probably in highschool from the Capital Region, which probably means they never learned to actually ski the entire mountain before starting to get into the park scene, and complain about park set ups because of the one weekend they went to Carinthia for pay your age day. However, Gore (in my opinion) has arguably the best tree skiing in the Northeast, and this is coming from someone that's fortunately had the opportunity to go to UVM and ski the likes of Stowe, Sugarbush, Jay Peak, MRG, and various other mountains in New England.

I too grew up at Gore and learned to ski there. I agree with you that not a lot of people know how to ski very well there ESPECIALLY the park kids, like it amazes me they can make it down the mountain. I stopped getting a pass there this year but I will definitely miss some of the sweet trees for sure. What is and will always be my favorite at jore are the mineshaft glades right underneath the 2pack.

I went to gore yesterday.

Conditions were actually pretty good. Super super quite midweek day so the surface held up well. Some nasty holes and ridges on wild air but overall good day on the hill for gettin some turns.

The park was classic gore though. Somebody told me they have a new guy running the park but I doubt it. That park had johara written all over it.

The first feature wasn't my jam but it was alright I guess. Next was a triple wide set of flat box, pole jam to corrugated lander, and then down rail.

Box and pole jam thing rode pretty good.flat box should have had a much smaller gap though considering it's early season, no other features, and gore doesn't have park kids.

Pole jam thing rode alright but wasn't that exciting. Lip onto the down rail was weird. Medium gap on, super lippy jump.

Feature 3: The jump


The jump had a short gap, maybe 12 feet but even then the jump was WAYYYYYYY too fucking steep. Vert wall steep. The upper section had a smooth transition with very little curl but the bottom felt like pumping a tranny wall at a skatepark. I watched people hit it for a while. Never seen that many people get bucked all funky on such a small jump. Jump had a creeper box on the side which was cool in concept. Proving that gore is kind of trying they just have no idea.

Final feature was a tree pole jam. My favorite feature. Not set up awesomr but not bad at all. The jump probably could have been a touch mellower since the front of the tree was flatter but I had fun with it. Also was a bit short.

But looking at that jump, jesus fuck. The distance between the 2nd features and that and the build of it screamed "Somebody is going to overshoot with their legs over their heads"

^ I just omitted something about that



Wild air. Not built up yet but pads already built for jumps. Pads are far too small, almost no existent. Look good for rails but I'm sure will have jumps on them.



I don't like to hate on gore all the time(maybe a little) but jesus.You can see their cat fleet from the lot. They have some of the newest cats out there. They have a huge budget. They've had a Park Bully since 08 I believe, a dedicated park operator since 07, have been sending their manager to cutters camp since 07, have a fucking ton of $$$$$$$, and still garbage.

USASA offered to help, whiteface offered to send people down to help or build their park(pretty sure that happened but I wasn't there I was with the usasa) and they said no.

It's cool that they're trying the last few years but it's clear they have no idea what the fuck that they're doing.

In addition to build incompetence it's clear they suffer from a problem that has plagued other parks.

Trying to build shit that's "cool" rather than build things that fit the demographic.
I guess there gap onto the flat box wasn't as large as I've seen it previously but it was there only beginner feature with a 2 foot gap onto it. Also that feature was next to 2 other advanced features.

That right there shows they just don't fucking get it. I think they care a little bit now, or are trying to care, but in spite of everything they're lost.

Whiteface has been on point the last 4 or 5 years. Also whiteface had been building good jumps for a long time, something gore has yet to master.

I understand that "gore isn't a park mountain and will never be" but I just get sick of that being an excuse for mountains that have the budget, have the snow, and HAD the clientele delivering a mediocre to down right sketchy product.

Opening was actually surprisingly rideable other than the jump and the down rail, but you can tell that it's all still there.

What the fuck gore. You've had a park since 95(or more) Get it together.


I'm going to hit west on friday. I doubt they'll have a park but 4 hour lift tickets are 16 bucks for opening. I might set in one of the rails I built for old times sake. I mean I did build some of those rails with my own money anyway. It'll be my last east coast sesh if I go.


Also to thread check out Oak in Spec. I went there sat and sunday because my parents live right by there. My buddy john, who I worked with there a few years ago is going to get some time in the park this year. Might not be epic, but it'll probably be a better time than gore.

West is undetermined though. They didn't hire anyone for the park this year but they do have a good location. Even if a setup is sketch as fuck, if you have good friends to shred with, it feels not so horrible.

I did see they kept 3 of my parks on the trail map(was over there today to grab some stuff) I'm hoping they build pine island. I didn't get a chance to last year although I rebuilt and repaired several features for it. IMO that's the park that will make west. Bummer that the shitty weather and west in general killed the park dreams last year.

I probably shouldn't have ever moved back east but I had to give it at least one season despite everyone telling me the obvious logic of it. Great location, great kids their everyday, bummer the park has been meh. I'd be stoked if they put it together this year though. I put a lot into building, and fixing those features and didn't get a chance to utilize them. I'd be stoked to see them have an epic park this year. I doubt it, but I would be down.

I think if you're in the 518 you should go to the face or VT. Standard gameplan.


/I'm done

rant ove

theabortionatorGore actually kind of used to have a park scene. A small one but a fun one. I'm hoping to go this week if they're open.

But yeah, they aren't very good at building things to fit the demographic of the mt jore park skier.

I have been skiing gore for over 5 years and in my time there they have welded up 1 feature. I heckled the park crew the other day and told him they needed to just put in some normal downrails with the hitching post and make lips that dont have a 20 ft gap to rail. I mean yeah i can hit the features but they are imposible to progress on or do swaps on. Its very irritating and i dont think younger kids coming up in the scene can learn anything from that place.

CahalI have been skiing gore for over 5 years and in my time there they have welded up 1 feature. I heckled the park crew the other day and told him they needed to just put in some normal downrails with the hitching post and make lips that dont have a 20 ft gap to rail. I mean yeah i can hit the features but they are imposible to progress on or do swaps on. Its very irritating and i dont think younger kids coming up in the scene can learn anything from that place.

Bummer. See if you can find out if Jason Ohara aka Johara is still running the show up there. I feel like he has to be. Genuinely curious.


The gaps are nuts though. I went there in like 2012/2013 and there were fucking HUGE gaps onto everything. like everything.

To gore they're "Making the parks super legit and cool to the better kids" because the gaps are huge. But in reality it's just sketchy.

I did see a new single tube rail on the side of wild air. Looked about 24 feet long. Didn't really scope it out. 3 feet high. Hopefully it will replace that shotgun rail they had of similar length.

I'm sure it will be set up too high with a huge gap and a steep takeoff though.

I choose not to bother hitting a lot of features at gore. 10 years ago some of the ghettoness would have been fine, but it's 16/17. I can't believe how sketch they still build their parks

theabortionatorI did see a new single tube rail on the side of wild air. Looked about 24 feet long. Didn't really scope it out. 3 feet high. Hopefully it will replace that shotgun rail they had of similar length.

I think I know what your talking about if it was right at the bottom of lower sleigh ride area. the real skinny one. Probably gonna be a sketch fest. I liked the down shotgun you set up at west a year or two ago that rail was fun. urban lip is major key to me. Maybe if I stick around in the area for a bit I could get myself a job there for park crew. ive always wanted to do it and im good at making features plus I can weld. My gore pass does work at whiteface so usually the homies just all drive up together every weekend.

bump, was doing some research for work and stumbled upon this page so now everyone can enjoy how ghetto gores parks are

http://www.goremountain.com/snow-reports/terrain-park

My personal favourite is the "pile of jibs" while the y rail makes me wonder how much they are paying for liability insurance

a_burgerMy personal favourite is the "pile of jibs" while the y rail makes me wonder how much they are paying for liability insurance

I see that pile of jibs shit every weekend and it makes me cringe every time

a_burgerhttp://www.goremountain.com/snow-reports/terrain-park

My personal favourite is the "pile of jibs" while the y rail makes me wonder how much they are paying for liability insurance

Hahaha solid post, thank you. Haven't made it up to Gore since mid-December. This definitely justifies my actions. The pile of jibs is all time.

a_burgerbump, was doing some research for work and stumbled upon this page so now everyone can enjoy how ghetto gores parks are

http://www.goremountain.com/snow-reports/terrain-park

My personal favourite is the "pile of jibs" while the y rail makes me wonder how much they are paying for liability insurance

Jesus fuck. I don't even know what they were going for with that. Just because something hasn't been done, doesn't always mean it should.

Also when clicking the y rail I was like "nah dude, y rails aren't sketchy". Then I saw that and was like oh god. Don't catch that ski inside

Gores parks are getting closer to rock bottom. A couple years ago the jumps were almost looking rideable.

I hear there are only 2 guys and they have not too much time. Still though. Idk. Gores parks were going somewhere kind of at one point.

Pretty sad.

At least whiteface is on point

a_burgerbump, was doing some research for work and stumbled upon this page so now everyone can enjoy how ghetto gores parks are

http://www.goremountain.com/snow-reports/terrain-park

My personal favourite is the "pile of jibs" while the y rail makes me wonder how much they are paying for liability insurance

lol I can't wait to see how shitty the park is when I come home for spring break

Brule.lol I can't wait to see how shitty the park is when I come home for spring break

Lets see if the snow holds up until spring break, 70% chance of steady rain all day Wednesday and highs in the 50's

grilled_cheeseLets see if the snow holds up until spring break, 70% chance of steady rain all day Wednesday and highs in the 50's

Jeez. Whiteface is going to be affected really bad after the rain on Wedesday. The whole mountain is gonna be an ice rink.