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Heel pain in boot.

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ValD
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Hey Newschoolers.

Last season i did myself the favor of paying for a good boot fitted by a reputable bootfitter, what an experience! Respect these people, they know what they are doing!

I had them made towards the end of the season. They were a little bit small compared to my older boots (43 vs. 45 EU size, 96mm vs 103mm), but snug not painful. However, the very last days i had a tiny bit of heel pain, but due to work i had no time to visit him. Is this an easy fix for a fitter? I know the shell is easy to work one sideways, but what about the heel? The sad thing is i won't return to the same town this year till the end of the winter, so i am probably going to have it fixed somewhere else, if i feel the heel pain in the beginning of the season.

Thanks in advantage.
Oct 23 2015 4:29PM
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JibbaTheHutt
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have you got a footbed in the boot? that'd be a good place to start.

but yes the heel is relatively easy to work on, its one of the thickest areas of plastic in the boot so very easy to grind sections, not so easy to stretch.

But if you havent got a good custom footbed that should definitely be the place to start.
Oct 23 2015 4:34PM
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brov1
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JibbaTheHutthave you got a footbed in the boot? that'd be a good place to start.

but yes the heel is relatively easy to work on, its one of the thickest areas of plastic in the boot so very easy to grind sections, not so easy to stretch.

But if you havent got a good custom footbed that should definitely be the place to start.

bingo my dude.

the heel is the easiest part of the boot to fix and if you dont have foot beds in your boots get them asap
Oct 23 2015 4:36PM
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ValD
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brov1bingo my dude.

the heel is the easiest part of the boot to fix and if you dont have foot beds in your boots get them asap


So, this is what my fitter told me ish (he knew i was a seasonaire and didn't swim in money, maybe he just wanted me to avoid the pain of a carbon footbed):

The sole of the Head Raptors is pretty thick, it's a decent stock sole, and you only have a small amount of pronation on your left foot, so i don't think you would need a custom footbed. But you can always have it made later...

And yes, it was a GOOD fitter, trust me. But that being said, you guys are probably damn right, and not having to buy skis/boots/goggles whatever this season, i might aswell throw some bucks after a nice footbed. Sidas Carbon is the way to go right? Atleast what i see all the european fitters selling.
Oct 23 2015 5:35PM
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tomPietrowski
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ValDSo, this is what my fitter told me ish (he knew i was a seasonaire and didn't swim in money, maybe he just wanted me to avoid the pain of a carbon footbed):

The sole of the Head Raptors is pretty thick, it's a decent stock sole, and you only have a small amount of pronation on your left foot, so i don't think you would need a custom footbed. But you can always have it made later...

And yes, it was a GOOD fitter, trust me. But that being said, you guys are probably damn right, and not having to buy skis/boots/goggles whatever this season, i might aswell throw some bucks after a nice footbed. Sidas Carbon is the way to go right? Atleast what i see all the european fitters selling.


Footbeds will for sure be the way to go as a start. Sidas full customs are by far the best I think and luckily they are relatively cheap I Europe. I would think realigning the foot will be all you need but if some slight shell work is needs after it will be easy.
Oct 23 2015 5:57PM
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ValD
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tomPietrowskiFootbeds will for sure be the way to go as a start. Sidas full customs are by far the best I think and luckily they are relatively cheap I Europe. I would think realigning the foot will be all you need but if some slight shell work is needs after it will be easy.


Thanks for also throwing in ur 2 cents Tom.

/Thread closed i think, thanks for fast help people!
Oct 23 2015 6:20PM
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murphyboiiii
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if its the sides of the heel, its a pricy fix but buying a moldable liner would be key

if its towards the bottom of the heel id buy a comfy insert
Oct 23 2015 8:17PM
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FastSpeed
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Just size down one more time, you will be all set
Oct 24 2015 8:51AM
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ValD
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murphyboiiiiif its the sides of the heel, its a pricy fix but buying a moldable liner would be key

if its towards the bottom of the heel id buy a comfy insert


Im very against this way of thinking, sorry to say it. Having bought a premium Head Raptor boot and you want me to replace a brand new liner? I doubt it mate. I do know about the advantages of custom liners, but i'm not going to pay 500 euro for a shell, 100 for a footbed and 150 for a liner - very few skiers have reason to do this.
Oct 24 2015 9:37AM
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murphyboiiii
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just trying to help, another thing you could do is wear thicker socks
Oct 24 2015 12:44PM
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ValD
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murphyboiiiijust trying to help, another thing you could do is wear thicker socks


Sorry, i really understand that you are trying help mate, but the "help" isn't really help.

I have had a season last year (120 days) and before that just a couple of weeks every now and then. Been a lurker of Newschoolers for a while, and have done some research but i am definitely NOT an expert, although i can ski decently.

But seriously mate, thicker socks? That's simply a nogo, you want em as thin as possible. Thick socks takes out room in the boot, and in worst case it cuts of the blood circulation. The socks do not have any shock absorping, heating whatever function, a well fitted boot takes care of all that. So mate, the thinner socks the better (generally speaking).
Oct 24 2015 8:15PM
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murphyboiiii
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chyll
Oct 26 2015 12:56PM
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murphyboiiii
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wear condoms on your feet, they will keep the snow out too!
Oct 26 2015 1:02PM
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JibbaTheHutt
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ValDSorry, i really understand that you are trying help mate, but the "help" isn't really help.

I have had a season last year (120 days) and before that just a couple of weeks every now and then. Been a lurker of Newschoolers for a while, and have done some research but i am definitely NOT an expert, although i can ski decently.

But seriously mate, thicker socks? That's simply a nogo, you want em as thin as possible. Thick socks takes out room in the boot, and in worst case it cuts of the blood circulation. The socks do not have any shock absorping, heating whatever function, a well fitted boot takes care of all that. So mate, the thinner socks the better (generally speaking).


To be fair, people with extremely low volume feet may consider a slightly thicker sock to reduce volume in a boot. There is a reason why the higher end sock companies still make thicker socks.

Obviously if you do not have an extremely low volume foot then a thinner sock may suit you better.
Oct 26 2015 1:03PM
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DBack1321
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IMO if you have to cover up a fit issue with a thicker sock then you're in the wrong boot/were fitted improperly. I didn't realize this until I got fitted and realized how fucked my old boots were.
Oct 26 2015 3:09PM
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murphyboiiii
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to be fair as well, if your boot fits a little too big near the ankle/heel it can make it painful due to the constant banging against the sides of the boot, so yeah thicker socks can help


source: 12 years of skiing
Oct 26 2015 3:20PM
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ValD
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murphyboiiiito be fair as well, if your boot fits a little too big near the ankle/heel it can make it painful due to the constant banging against the sides of the boot, so yeah thicker socks can help


source: 12 years of skiing


The fix to this is a new boot sir....
Oct 26 2015 5:01PM
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Easy-A
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Footbeds followed by shell grind if the problem persists sounds like the solution to me.

Regarding the sock discussion as a owner of a low volume foot a thicker sock does help in personal experience but isn't a game changer
Oct 26 2015 5:13PM
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