Another mass shooting

dodgeHow can you disagree with tightening gun laws

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jblaskiBecause tightening the gun control laws would have Z.E.R.O. effect in stopping these incidents.

jblaskiBecause tightening the gun control laws would have Z.E.R.O. effect in stopping these incidents. Tightening of the laws affects those who follow the laws, not those mentally deranged assholes that want to get their name in the media before ending their own inconsequential pathetic lives.

SKI.INGBut most of these mentally unstable people are getting their guns legally, so doesn't that mean different legal processes would help with this issue?

jblaskiBecause tightening the gun control laws would have Z.E.R.O. effect in stopping these incidents. Tightening of the laws affects those who follow the laws, not those mentally deranged assholes that want to get their name in the media before ending their own inconsequential pathetic lives.

jblaskiIf there was an immediate 100% ban on all private owned guns that started tomorrow. Do you really believe that these types of incidents would all of a sudden completely stop?

jblaskiIf there was an immediate 100% ban on all private owned guns that started tomorrow. Do you really believe that these types of incidents would all of a sudden completely stop?

jblaskiIf there was an immediate 100% ban on all private owned guns that started tomorrow. Do you really believe that these types of incidents would all of a sudden completely stop?

brotoWho was talking about a 100% immediate ban on all privately owned guns? Why did you even bring that up? Seriously, you're just putting words into his mouth.

BakerpowThe people advocating gun laws are not trying to take your guns away. Fuck. How do you not see the falsehoods in your logic? Have you ever taken a debate/argument class? your logic is riddled with fallacies.

jblaskiWhat I'm pointing out is, look at the most extreme and drastic case possible, 100% ban. Is that going to solve the problem? No. So what will "slightly more restrictive" laws accomplish? Nothing. James Holmes stocked up for months, sounds like this douchebag did too. All the guns were purchased legally. What laws could they possibly put in place that would have stopped them? It will be a hindrance for those who ARE responsible gun owners, and have zero effect on the criminals. So why make the laws?

jblaskiWhat I'm pointing out is, look at the most extreme and drastic case possible, 100% ban. Is that going to solve the problem? No. So what will "slightly more restrictive" laws accomplish? Nothing. James Holmes stocked up for months, sounds like this douchebag did too. All the guns were purchased legally. What laws could they possibly put in place that would have stopped them? It will be a hindrance for those who ARE responsible gun owners, and have zero effect on the criminals. So why make the laws?

jblaskiWhat I'm pointing out is, look at the most extreme and drastic case possible, 100% ban. Is that going to solve the problem? No. So what will "slightly more restrictive" laws accomplish? Nothing. James Holmes stocked up for months, sounds like this douchebag did too. All the guns were purchased legally. What laws could they possibly put in place that would have stopped them? It will be a hindrance for those who ARE responsible gun owners, and have zero effect on the criminals. So why make the laws?

S.J.WI mean extremely restrictive gun laws have worked in every other country with mass shootings. Why will the US be different?

jblaskiSince Britian's major handgun ban in 1998, crime from handguns has more than doubled. After the gun ban in Australia, crime rates have fallen within the margin of error, meaning the ban had what is considered zero affect on crime. At the same time, armed robbery and armed assaults have gone up nearly 3x. What part of the bans have worked?

jblaskiBecause tightening the gun control laws would have Z.E.R.O. effect in stopping these incidents. Tighten

louie.mirags5 is too easy. One for deer hunting, one for larger game, one for small game, one for trap shooting, one for large game birds, one for small game birds, one for protection, one for target shooting etc.

VinnieF1: .22 for small game/plinking
2: break shotty for small game/whenever you want a light and easy to carry shotty
3: large calibre rifle for large game
4: pump shotgun for ducks/geese/turkey/etc
5: intermediate calibre that shoots something cheap for having fun blasting at stuff
6-infinity: anything else you want because fuck you

jblaskiSince Britian's major handgun ban in 1998, crime from handguns has more than doubled. After the gun ban in Australia, crime rates have fallen within the margin of error, meaning the ban had what is considered zero affect on crime. At the same time, armed robbery and armed assaults have gone up nearly 3x. What part of the bans have worked?

jblaskiYet another shooting in a "gun free" zone. It's funny, these mentally deranged people continue to choose places where they won't meet any resistance (schools, theaters, churches) thanks to liberal polices and rules that make everyone "safer"

jblaskiYour math is boarder-line retarded

ryanoI'll just leave this here.

http://americangunfacts.com

The media NEVER mentions all the lives saved, rapes stopped, robberies stopped, and crime in general stopped because of a conceal and carry or home defense weapon.

Crimes, be it rape, robberies, shootings, knife point, etc.. ALL of them happen in less time than it takes for a policemen to show up.

Take away peoples right to defend themselves, crime rate WILL go up.

nocturnalDid any of these mass shooters have a concealed carry permit? And you have to go through stricter background checks and test to get the permit?

ryanoThe media NEVER mentions all the lives saved, rapes stopped, robberies stopped, and crime in general stopped because of a conceal and carry or home defense weapon.
Take away peoples right to defend themselves, crime rate WILL go up.

jblaskiWhat I'm pointing out is, look at the most extreme and drastic case possible, 100% ban. Is that going to solve the problem? No. So what will "slightly more restrictive" laws accomplish? Nothing. James Holmes stocked up for months, sounds like this douchebag did too. All the guns were purchased legally. What laws could they possibly put in place that would have stopped them? It will be a hindrance for those who ARE responsible gun owners, and have zero effect on the criminals. So why make the laws?

onenerdykidHere is a step(s) in the right direction (please note that I think you ought to be able to own guns in America):
1. Register all guns. If you want to own a gun, that's fine but register it like you need to do with your car.
2. In addition to current background checks done prior to the sale, yearly check ups need to be done post sale. Here in Austria for example, you can own a legal gun of your choosing (similar to/like in America) but you need to do the following every year: the police come to your house to inspect your gun(s), make sure you know how to operate it/them, make sure you have the proper storage area for it/them, and you need to take yearly mental health exams. If you fail any one of these, you lose your right to own a gun.

Some of the pro-gun people will see this as unfairly stepping on their rights to own guns, but you do need to understand that you have the legal right to own a highly destructive weapon capable of easily killing many people. While I am not challenging that right, it does seem very reasonable to say that if you are allowed to own such a weapon that it is the government's responsibility to ensure that you as a law abiding citizen are able and fit to do so.

Will this solve all of our problems? No, I will not ever claim that. Is it a step in the right direction to help make sure people who are not fit and not able to own guns cannot? Yes, I do think so and other countries demonstrate this as well.

jblaskiAll the guns were purchased legally. What laws could they possibly put in place that would have stopped them? It will be a hindrance for those who ARE responsible gun owners, and have zero effect on the criminals. So why make the laws?

ryanoI'll just leave this here.

http://americangunfacts.com

The media NEVER mentions all the lives saved, rapes stopped, robberies stopped, and crime in general stopped because of a conceal and carry or home defense weapon.

Crimes, be it rape, robberies, shootings, knife point, etc.. ALL of them happen in less time than it takes for a policemen to show up.

Take away peoples right to defend themselves, crime rate WILL go up.

BombogenesisYour plan fails to address all of the guns that are already in the U.S. that are totally untracked.

S.J.WAmerican gun facts. Yeah that looks like a reliable source... Might as well link studies sponsored by Smith and Wesson and call them facts.

.MASSHOLE.a media company from Texas.

ElgYep, probably not biased at all.

.MASSHOLE.It actually lists all the sources and gives you the link to the actual publishers website. It isn't a major gun company, it is a media company from Texas.

But what do I know? Carry on with your agenda.

BombogenesisYour plan fails to address all of the guns that are already in the U.S. that are totally untracked.

BombogenesisYour plan fails to address all of the guns that are already in the U.S. that are totally untracked.

las.Implying the only way to stop crime and for people to protect themselves is with a gun, and only a gun. It's probably hard for you to conceptualize, because you live in a such a gun-crazy culture, but the rest of the civilized world that has heavy restrictions on guns is getting along just fine without them, for the most part. I don't feel like there's anything missing from my life, and I certainly don't feel less safe. I feel infinitely safer, in fact, and 99% of the people I'd come across on the street would have the same stance.

onenerdykidIf by "totally untracked" you mean guns on the black market, then obviously. But, many of these mass murders/public shootings are done with legally obtained guns. If the police/government can detect and find a few people each year that are not fit to own guns, then that's only a step in the right direction. At the very least it ensures the people who do own guns need to know how to properly own, care for, store, etc. their guns and take mental health exams.

ryanoYou completely ignored everything I just said.. The facts are that crime goes up when guns are banned. Look at the statistics.

The rest of the world is not getting along just fine without guns, look at their crime rates before and after guns.

ryanoYou completely ignored everything I just said.. The facts are that crime goes up when guns are banned. Look at the statistics.

The rest of the world is not getting along just fine without guns, look at their crime rates before and after guns.

BakerpowAt the moment we are not discussing crime rates though are we? We are talking about MASS murders. At the very least they should have stricter regulations on ammunition and guns that can execute mass murders. no joe blow needs an ar in his garage to defend his home...

jblaskiOnce again, you are the one missing the point. How many people die each day from "simple crime" from gunfire? How any die each year from "mass murders"? (Hint: it's not the mass murders). The President makes a big speech like it's so angry about this school shooting, yet, in his home town last weekend, DOUBLE the amount of people died as a result of gunfire.

You pretend so hard that you care about these people who die in school, church, or mall shootings. Yet, you seem to not give a single shit about the people in the streets that are dying by the dozens.

californiagrownwhy not make ammunition super duper expensive? Like $50 a bullet for 9mm ammo etc.

Ranges would provide ammo at normal prices, but you would only be allowed to buy onsite and wouldnt be allowed to take ammo offsite.



if all you are actually trying to do is protect yourself, then 4 bullets will suite you fine in a home invasion. Im sure we could come up a with a simple solution for meat hunters.

jblaskiYou pretend so hard that you care about these people who die in school, church, or mall shootings. Yet, you seem to not give a single shit about the people in the streets that are dying by the dozens.

nocturnalYeah let's do that I'll illegally sell ammo out of my range for $20 a bullet. That was a little far even for me. But then again maybe my meter is broken.