Look P14s or P18s, that is the question!

What type of skier are you? What do you weigh?

If you are reallllly aggressive and weigh a lot then the extra din on a p18 might be worthwhile but if not most people seem to settle on the 14s.

A ski tech would also be able to advise if you had a din setting that would be better off on the 18s

I have last years 14s as well as the year before. They both seem pretty durable to me. The extra metal and cash of the 18 were not necessary in my case.

And I'm pretty sure the toe piece releases vertically and laterally but someone correct me if I'm wrong

18's have a vertical toe release as well. It's not really a question of needing the increase in din, as most people will not ski beyond a 14. The 18 toe will just be much more durable. If you don't have a history of breaking bindings, the 14's should be adequate and cheaper.

KyleA18's have a vertical toe release as well. It's not really a question of needing the increase in din, as most people will not ski beyond a 14. The 18 toe will just be much more durable. If you don't have a history of breaking bindings, the 14's should be adequate and cheaper.

I'm 6'2" 180 lbs, love skiing steeps and hucking cliffs 40'+ regularly when theres snow, getting better at the park, doing 270 onto rails now, swap ups, switch ups, 450s out etc. I can do cork 7's and sometimes 9, rodeo 7's etc. although i didnt do much jumping last season. just focused on rails cause we didnt have shit for snow. I usually rip my bindings off the ski before the binding actually breaks, which is why i got the nordica a of s ti comps for that layer of titanium to hold my bindings on.

PandoCommandoI'm 6'2" 180 lbs, love skiing steeps and hucking cliffs 40'+ regularly when theres snow, getting better at the park, doing 270 onto rails now, swap ups, switch ups, 450s out etc. I can do cork 7's and sometimes 9, rodeo 7's etc. although i didnt do much jumping last season. just focused on rails cause we didnt have shit for snow. I usually rip my bindings off the ski before the binding actually breaks, which is why i got the nordica a of s ti comps for that layer of titanium to hold my bindings on.

You should definitely be on 18's in that case.

I had the Rossi FKS 180 (exactly the same as a Pivot 18) for about a year until I managed to completely destroy the heelpiece, and then switched to the FKS 140s (Pivot 14s) and so far they've been holding up just as well in terms of durability, and while I'm pretty small it seems as though unless you're huge then you won't need to go higher than 14 for the din, and the lower weight of the 14 is worth it on a park ski I find, and the 14 is also quite a bit less expensive, so unless you plan on cranking the dins to 18 I'd recommend the 14s

http://www.epicski.com/t/131715/look-pivot-14-vs-18

Just saw this thread in epicski. Apparently only the 14 is capable of a fully vertical release. The 18 does release almost vertical (slightly diagonally?) But it doesn't appear to be quite as versatile as the 14. Other than that the 18 is all metal and a bit heavier.

So I guess if durability is your priority then the 18s might be better. If you want a bit more forgiving release at the cost of some durability then the 14 would be the way to go.