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doublecupRegardless of who is in office or what political party they are from, you need to support your President
what the fuck. No you don't. So you need to Support Nixon whilst he was lying through watergate? You need to support Bush as he launched wars under lies of weapons of mass destruction? You need to support Obama over killing thousands of civilians? You need to support Trump over any number of his terrible policies or scandals? What kind of bullshit patriot supports their president no matter what? Democracy works because of difference of opinion, because we hold those in office accountable. If we supported our leaders no matter what they'd end up with unrestricted power. Fuck that.
Hold onto your values, and say fuck you to the president if he's doing a shit job.
the article concludes with "So we can support the wall and immigration enforcement, but we need to be Catholic in our approach. Let us pray for our nation and those who keep it safe, and also for those who yearn for the American dream."
Who the fuck honestly even is that? From all I have found from a cursory search, she seems to be a Muslim pro-womens rights activist. How are her tweets pro-sharia? Shes speaking out against how conservatives and the alt-right are lambasting and stereotyping every Muslim person in this country.
This thread is a fucking failure, but completely representative of whats going on in America right now. Echo chambers and people retreating further to their polarized views and sides. We're sick of politicians now but we'll soon realize that whats really sickening are the people in this country that are electing them. If people cannot agree about plain truth and fact, I dont see how its possible to have a civil debate and convincing argument. What we're sowing is entirely what we deserve I guess.
RudyGarmischFrom all I have found from a cursory search, she seems to be a Muslim pro-womens rights activist. How are her tweets pro-sharia? Shes speaking out against how conservatives and the alt-right are lambasting and stereotyping every Muslim person in this country.
The evidence isn't exactly difficult to find, you must have a funny definition of women's rights if Linda Sarsour is a "pro-womens rights activist". It's not difficult to "stereotype" (i.e. recognize reality) when they're being led by her and other dangerous Sharia peddlers.
The fact remains that, just as in Europe and across Western society, the Left has been working hand in glove with well-organized and well-funded Islamic Sharia activists and organizations.
Gotta love the EU, funding little terrorist training centers.
"A Mail on Sunday investigation has found 24 schools named after Palestinian terrorists and evidence of widespread encouragement of violence against Israel by teachers, with terrorists routinely held up as heroes for schoolchildren.
The EU, which gets one-tenth of its aid budget from Britain, is donating £272 million."
Between the Turkish foreign minister predicting "religious wars" in Europe,
to that Sharia-Smeagol Erdogan threatening to unleash 15,000 muslim "refugees" on Europe per day,
to now that same muslim goblin calling on muslim women in Europe to have five kids instead of three, since muslims are the "future of Europe".
How pathetically stupid do you have to be to not see what is going on? Can Western Europe even survive the twin cancers of Leftism and Islam working in tandem?
Your life is a sad state of affairs. I bet you're from a shitty town in rural america and need a scape goat to blame for everything shitty in your life like your shitty job and your shitty car and that black dude who is fucking your wife - oh ***GOD*** why is everything so shitty? uuugh its must be those god damn immigrants takin our jobs! zionists illumati rothschilds running the world wake up sheeple!!! muh globalization muh shariah law fuck off back to infowars you gun toting red neck nobody likes you, literally.
How ********literally retarded********* you republicans / right wingers are is absolutely beyond me. Are you one of those who want to preserve precious aryan genes as well yet is a balding manlet with brown hair and eyes?
You're pretty much a neo-nazi hiding behind a screen. Why don't you at least put ona uniform and be proud about it?
I want you to honestly write down why all muslims are evil and I will in return tell you how you are literally retarded.
BatemanYour life is a sad state of affairs. I bet you're from a shitty town in rural america and need a scape goat to blame for everything shitty in your life like your shitty job and your shitty car and that black dude who is fucking your wife - oh ***GOD*** why is everything so shitty? uuugh its must be those god damn immigrants takin our jobs! zionists illumati rothschilds running the world wake up sheeple!!! muh globalization muh shariah law fuck off back to infowars you gun toting red neck nobody likes you, literally.
How ********literally retarded********* you republicans / right wingers are is absolutely beyond me. Are you one of those who want to preserve precious aryan genes as well yet is a balding manlet with brown hair and eyes?
You're pretty much a neo-nazi hiding behind a screen. Why don't you at least put ona uniform and be proud about it?
I want you to honestly write down why all muslims are evil and I will in return tell you how you are literally retarded.
inb4
""""god damn liberals!!!!!!!""""
You went a bit over the top but I agree... they need to state valid reasons to ban muslim countries. "Terrorists"... please... this aint kindergarden
BatemanYour life is a sad state of affairs. I bet you're from a shitty town in rural america and need a scape goat to blame for everything shitty in your life like your shitty job and your shitty car and that black dude who is fucking your wife - oh ***GOD*** why is everything so shitty? uuugh its must be those god damn immigrants takin our jobs! zionists illumati rothschilds running the world wake up sheeple!!! muh globalization muh shariah law fuck off back to infowars you gun toting red neck nobody likes you, literally.
How ********literally retarded********* you republicans / right wingers are is absolutely beyond me. Are you one of those who want to preserve precious aryan genes as well yet is a balding manlet with brown hair and eyes?
You're pretty much a neo-nazi hiding behind a screen. Why don't you at least put ona uniform and be proud about it?
I want you to honestly write down why all muslims are evil and I will in return tell you how you are literally retarded.
inb4
""""god damn liberals!!!!!!!""""
Feeling any better?
I know you must be going through a rough patch right now, but you'll be fine.
You're a funny guy, though I'm not sure you mean to be.
BatemanTell me whats wrong with islam you lazy redneck or I'm telling your cousin / wife that you're cheating on her with your sister.
In brief, let's start with apostasy death sentences, child marriage, female genital mutilation, second-class status for women, virulent anti-Semetism, religiously sanctioned violence against those who insult islam, honor killings, among many other things.
All part of the Koran, the Sunna, and the Hadiths, and carried out quite regularly by the followers of the pedophile prophet.
Now that I've given you a few, lets have you list some of the good things and see if it balances out.
And spare me the whole "Not all muslims!" bullshit. There are more than enough that are quite fond of the tenets of Sharia law.
I'm guessing you're a clueless teenager fresh out of an RSJ class.
CampeadorIn brief, let's start with apostasy death sentences, child marriage, female genital mutilation, second-class status for women, virulent anti-Semetism, religiously sanctioned violence against those who insult islam, honor killings, among many other things.
All part of the Koran, the Sunna, and the Hadiths, and carried out quite regularly by the followers of the pedophile prophet.
Now that I've given you a few, lets have you list some of the good things and see if it balances out.
And spare me the whole "Not all muslims!" bullshit. There are more than enough that are quite fond of the tenets of Sharia law.
I'm guessing you're a clueless teenager fresh out of an RSJ class.
Gee, guess youre right. I'm sold.
Thanks for waking me up, I'm a narrow minded bigot now.
BatemanTell me whats wrong with islam you lazy redneck or I'm telling your cousin / wife that you're cheating on her with your sister.
You actually don't see anything wrong with Islam? Not saying all Muslims are "bad people" but do you think marrying your cousins and having kids is a good thing?
CampeadorUnfortunately, there's little point in fighting them over there if leftists keep inviting them over here.
Actually, I am. Not that citizenship would even mean anything if leftists had their way.
Open borders, right?
Or are you against open borders?! Racist!
You fucking pussy. If you actually cared about anyone but yourself, you'd put your money where your mouth is and enlist. But no, you just sit atop the throne behind your golden keyboard and bitch, bitch, bitch.
milk_manWhat do the Hillary trolls have to say about the economy doing so well since trump was elected?
Let me list the reasons why.
1. Dow Jones, S&P 500, etc. are awful indicators of economic strength (at least in the short run, long run is a different argument). Neither really encompasses the entire country (wasn't this the argument everyone was making against Obama?) and frankly only less than 50% of the US population is even invested in the stock market.
If you're in the top 1%, you love it. If you're not, it has little bearing.
2. Name me any sort of economic proposal that was passed by the current administration. Cutting down the Federal Government doesn't count as that, again, is a limited effect on the country as the whole (one may even say negative due to the sudden unemployment for some workers).
And don't point to the deficit either, that was due to tax revenues and how certain governmental payments were acquired.
And if you point to the job numbers, how did we suddenly go from ~48% unemployment to ~4.7% seeing as under Obama these numbers were fake/doctored.
Frankly, Trump really hasn't done anything of note for the economy.
Yes, a few companies pledged to keep jobs here (many already had prior plans to do so) but at the same time others left. The difference is, the ones that stayed were trumpeted as successes while the ones that left were ignored. More of the same over the past ~20 years.
Yes, the stock market has done well. But as stated above, it isn't a great indicator of the economy in the short-run.
Yes, the debt has decreased. But if you''re to look at the debt level changes you'll see much of it came from Intragovernmental holdings. This indicates there likely were tax revenues and other payments that were recognized.
If you're to believe Trump, unemployment went from ~48% to 4.7% in less than 60 days despite no economic plans being enacted. Not too much to say about this.
And frankly, no one outside of his own administration believes he can reach 4% growth.
TheHamburglarYou fucking pussy. If you actually cared about anyone but yourself, you'd put your money where your mouth is and enlist. But no, you just sit atop the throne behind your golden keyboard and bitch, bitch, bitch.
Biggest pussy of them all right here, folks.
You haven't got the slightest clue, as usual.
Very few deployments are even being sent to Afghanistan anymore.
I just bring to light certain truths far-Left ideologues like yourself would rather ignore. The real enemy of the United States are not just a few Taliban ragheads, but rather 5th Column fuckers like you who would invite them in and defend the political ideology they represent.
Your line of argument is so weak and frail (as I'm sure you yourself are), that you really have nothing left but name-calling. Not to say I don't like to throw out a few as well, but it can't be the only arrow in your quiver.
swisssteezeThis is a bit off topic... What do you think about trump banning 7 Islamic countries?
Was that reasonable? When yes... why is it reasonable?
Very reasonable to temporarily restrict migration from countries that harbor significant amounts of terrorism. It's a great starting point.
The Islamic terrorists themselves have stated that they would use the "refugee" system to infiltrate the United States and the countries of Europe. Why is it unreasonable to take them at their word? They've already infiltrated the U.S. with hundreds that are currently under surveillance (why they're not deported is beyond me), and they've positioned thousands, if not tens of thousands, of jihadists in Europe. There are very dark days ahead, the price of left-wing "humanitarianism" will be paid in blood.
Honestly, only far-Left ideologues believe that foreigners have a "human right" to migrate to the United States or Europe. It ties in to their belief that all Western countries should have open borders.
Furthermore, immigration is not a welfare program. By and large, we don't need anyone from any of those countries, they typically come in an subsist for decades on welfare. Not to mention, they come with significant security risks and a hostile ideology. Just as in Europe, they use welfare to breed and spread Islam through the womb.
I'm have a very hard time finding any benefits at all, if you know of any, feel free to share.
"An unusually high number of migrants have transferred over the past two days from the Turkish coast to the Greek islands in the East Aegean. In all, from Friday morning to Sunday morning, 362 people reached the Greek islands, as the Greek Refugee Council announced on Sunday."
It's ironic how we hear about walls "not working", when the one on the Hungarian border seems to be quite effective at keeping fake refugees out of Hungary.
CampeadorYou haven't got the slightest clue, as usual.
Very few deployments are even being sent to Afghanistan anymore.
I just bring to light certain truths far-Left ideologues like yourself would rather ignore. The real enemy of the United States are not just a few Taliban ragheads, but rather 5th Column fuckers like you who would invite them in and defend the political ideology they represent.
Your line of argument is so weak and frail (as I'm sure you yourself are), that you really have nothing left but name-calling. Not to say I don't like to throw out a few as well, but it can't be the only arrow in your quiver.
You just said that liberals are the new enemy of the United States, not radical Muslims. Fucking wow dude.
CampeadorYou haven't got the slightest clue, as usual.
Very few deployments are even being sent to Afghanistan anymore.
I just bring to light certain truths far-Left ideologues like yourself would rather ignore. The real enemy of the United States are not just a few Taliban ragheads, but rather 5th Column fuckers like you who would invite them in and defend the political ideology they represent.
Your line of argument is so weak and frail (as I'm sure you yourself are), that you really have nothing left but name-calling. Not to say I don't like to throw out a few as well, but it can't be the only arrow in your quiver.
Excuses. You never have and never will serve your country, or anybody but yourself in fact. Pussy ass Trump wannabe.
1. America bombs areas in the Middle East toppling regimes and helping to create a power vacuum and isis. Many innocents are killed. Estimated at 90% wrong targets at one point in the war
2. Displaces thousands of women, children and men.
3. Boys are growing up hating America
4. ?????
5. Conservativeso would like to ban immigration even though we helped displace many refugees.
OK my 4th an step ladder didn't exactly portray how I wanted it too. But someone may still get the point.
We'really funding both sides of the war. America is the largest arms dealer.
-benedetto1. America bombs areas in the Middle East toppling regimes and helping to create a power vacuum and isis. Many innocents are killed. Estimated at 90% wrong targets at one point in the war
2. Displaces thousands of women, children and men.
3. Boys are growing up hating America
4. ?????
5. Conservativeso would like to ban immigration even though we helped displace many refugees.
OK my 4th an step ladder didn't exactly portray how I wanted it too. But someone may still get the point.
We'really funding both sides of the war. America is the largest arms dealer.
My work tablet has the weirdest auto corrects. *OK my 4chan step ladder..*
CampeadorVery reasonable to temporarily restrict migration from countries that harbor significant amounts of terrorism. It's a great starting point.
The Islamic terrorists themselves have stated that they would use the "refugee" system to infiltrate the United States and the countries of Europe. Why is it unreasonable to take them at their word? They've already infiltrated the U.S. with hundreds that are currently under surveillance (why they're not deported is beyond me), and they've positioned thousands, if not tens of thousands, of jihadists in Europe. There are very dark days ahead, the price of left-wing "humanitarianism" will be paid in blood.
Honestly, only far-Left ideologues believe that foreigners have a "human right" to migrate to the United States or Europe. It ties in to their belief that all Western countries should have open borders.
Furthermore, immigration is not a welfare program. By and large, we don't need anyone from any of those countries, they typically come in an subsist for decades on welfare. Not to mention, they come with significant security risks and a hostile ideology. Just as in Europe, they use welfare to breed and spread Islam through the womb.
I'm have a very hard time finding any benefits at all, if you know of any, feel free to share.
There hasen't been any fatal terrorist attacks by refugees in the US since 1980...
The "Islamic terrorists" (ISIS's doesn't follow the Quran in many ways... so calling them islamic isen't really correct even though they think they are) threat of using the refugee system is to be taken serious though, i agree.
In my eyes that threat is just them having a big mouth to spread fear and chaos in the world. That threat is not enough to ban 7 entire countries from entering america. This "temporary" restriction divided thousands of familys.
My point is that the terrorists that have caused a lot of deaths and destruction already were americans NOT refugees. So either control the refugees more strictly or just say "nah i dont like those countrys, they have some bad poeple".
swisssteezeThere hasen't been any fatal terrorist attacks by refugees in the US since 1980...
The "Islamic terrorists" (ISIS's doesn't follow the Quran in many ways... so calling them islamic isen't really correct even though they think they are) threat of using the refugee system is to be taken serious though, i agree.
In my eyes that threat is just them having a big mouth to spread fear and chaos in the world. That threat is not enough to ban 7 entire countries from entering america. This "temporary" restriction divided thousands of familys.
My point is that the terrorists that have caused a lot of deaths and destruction already were americans NOT refugees. So either control the refugees more strictly or just say "nah i dont like those countrys, they have some bad poeple".
The threat scares me (i live in europe... we felt the impact), but i dont think its reason enough.
1. Dow Jones, S&P 500, etc. are awful indicators of economic strength (at least in the short run, long run is a different argument). Neither really encompasses the entire country (wasn't this the argument everyone was making against Obama?) and frankly only less than 50% of the US population is even invested in the stock market.
If you're in the top 1%, you love it. If you're not, it has little bearing.
2. Name me any sort of economic proposal that was passed by the current administration. Cutting down the Federal Government doesn't count as that, again, is a limited effect on the country as the whole (one may even say negative due to the sudden unemployment for some workers).
And don't point to the deficit either, that was due to tax revenues and how certain governmental payments were acquired.
And if you point to the job numbers, how did we suddenly go from ~48% unemployment to ~4.7% seeing as under Obama these numbers were fake/doctored.
"Less than 50% of the US population is invested in the stock market."
Uhh do you have a source for that? And is that the adult population? Because anyone with a retirement account is invested in the stock market...
-benedetto1. America bombs areas in the Middle East toppling regimes and helping to create a power vacuum and isis. Many innocents are killed. Estimated at 90% wrong targets at one point in the war
2. Displaces thousands of women, children and men.
3. Boys are growing up hating America
4. ?????
5. Conservativeso would like to ban immigration even though we helped displace many refugees.
OK my 4th an step ladder didn't exactly portray how I wanted it too. But someone may still get the point.
We'really funding both sides of the war. America is the largest arms dealer.
Which country of those six have we dropped bombs on besides Libya? And that was a French, NATO, Obama-Clinton fuck up.
The fact remains that those who hate America and Europe do so because they're taught to by their imams and the fundamentals of Islam.
Or do you have another explanation for the thousands of "European" and "American" muslims that have gone to fight for ISIS and Al-Qaeda? All those bombs we dropped on Molenbeek must have really pissed them off.
swisssteeze1. There hasen't been any fatal terrorist attacks by refugees in the US since 1980...
2. The "Islamic terrorists" (ISIS's doesn't follow the Quran in many ways... so calling them islamic isen't really correct even though they think they are) threat of using the refugee system is to be taken serious though, i agree.
3. In my eyes that threat is just them having a big mouth to spread fear and chaos in the world. That threat is not enough to ban 7 entire countries from entering america. This "temporary" restriction divided thousands of familys.
4. My point is that the terrorists that have caused a lot of deaths and destruction already were americans NOT refugees. So either control the refugees more strictly or just say "nah i dont like those countrys, they have some bad poeple".
1. There are hundreds of "refugees" under surveillance in the US for ties to terrorism, "refugees" have been arrested for planning acts of terrorism in the United States, one of the reason Obama froze Iraqi immigration in 2011 (If my memory serves me). Furthermore, just because there haven't been any deaths yet is not a reason to not act.
"Refugees" in Europe have already committed acts of terrorism. If an attack occurred in Austria, would you think it wrong for Switzerland to take measure against a similar attack, even though there had not yet been any deaths attributed to "refugees" in Switzerland?
2. The fact remains that ISIS is very much Islamic. Al-Baghdadi earned a bachelor’s degree, a master’s degree and a PhD in Islamic Studies from the Islamic University of Baghdad in Adhamiya, a Baghdad suburb. I would assume he understand his own religion and ideology to a greater extent than you do. You'd be hard-pressed to find anything that ISIS does that is not sanctioned by Islamic texts.
Now you could say that Baghdadi follows a different "interpretation" of Islam. I'd agree, he follows the "prophet" Mohammed's interpretation.
3. They've proven a few times already that they are perfectly capable of carrying out acts of terrorism and mass carnage. That's reason enough to take preemptive precautions. Frankly, all muslim countries should receive a very high level of scrutiny, as the vast majority of organized terrorism is carried out by muslims.
4. No, they were mostly Saudis on students visas. Even so, that is a separate issue, that should also be dealt with.
And lastly, yes, I don't like any of those countries. If you import enough people from countries (and cultures) with problems, you'll get those same problems. No thanks.
And to conclude, do you think immigration should act be a de facto welfare program? What is the point of letting people migrate from these countries?
CampeadorWhich country of those six have we dropped bombs on besides Libya? And that was a French, NATO, Obama-Clinton fuck up.
The fact remains that those who hate America and Europe do so because they're taught to by their imams and the fundamentals of Islam.
Or do you have another explanation for the thousands of "European" and "American" muslims that have gone to fight for ISIS and Al-Qaeda? All those bombs we dropped on Molenbeek must have really pissed them off.
The U.S. and NATO have been dropping bombs on sovereign nations in undeclared war zones for a very long time. If not directly than through their proxies including Saudi Arabia who funnels weapons to daesh; ISIS. Coincidence, I think not. The Obama admin. didn't as you put it, "screw up," the funneling of weapons to ISIS and radical Sunni groups in Syria and Libya primarily through proxies was exactly the desired geopolitical goal. Destabilization vacuum that would pin leaders that they found disposable or a threat to the western economy. The problem is Iran, Syria and Russia won much of what the west and its Proxies destabilized. Of course regime change is still engrained in the minds of the trump campaign, even more so than the Obama admin.
Might the Russian connections have to do with a compromise on the LNG pipeline, who knows but trumps advisors sent a thousand plus soldiers to Syria, which is illegal. I'm hoping we can reach diplomacy; I'm just not sure since Obama pushed for war with Syria and having Warhawks in trumps admin. The likelihood of military involvment remains probable.
Plus, you have Michael morrell former CIA director and chicken hawk, pussy who openly stated his desire to murder innocent people in Syria and Russia. Starkly against trump, he was pushing the Russian ties, stating trump was Putins puppet. And without notice, MORRELL changes his mind in a mere day stating that there are no connections and that the likelihood is low. I have a feeling the CIA got to trump and made some sort of compromise with his admin regarding Syria.
milk_manThe 1% being the biggest investors in companies or the 1% being the CEOs and other top executives?
The top 1% of the economy.
You have still yet to prove or attempt to prove why the Dow/S&P/Stock market is a good indicator of economic strength.
If anything, yesterday's downturn shows why you can't judge the economy based off the stock market. The market had a rather sudden downturn because market sentiment changed due to the lack of faith in Trump and the GOP despite nothing actually changing in the economy.
You have still yet to prove or attempt to prove why the Dow/S&P/Stock market is a good indicator of economic strength.
If anything, yesterday's downturn shows why you can't judge the economy based off the stock market. The market had a rather sudden downturn because market sentiment changed due to the lack of faith in Trump and the GOP despite nothing actually changing in the economy.
CampeadorWhich country of those six have we dropped bombs on besides Libya? And that was a French, NATO, Obama-Clinton fuck up.
The fact remains that those who hate America and Europe do so because they're taught to by their imams and the fundamentals of Islam.
Or do you have another explanation for the thousands of "European" and "American" muslims that have gone to fight for ISIS and Al-Qaeda? All those bombs we dropped on Molenbeek must have really pissed them off.
What 6 countries?
I'm referring to the thousands of families we have directly or indirectly displaced due to our bombs, arms deals and political moves. We created isis through toppling dictators. Was democracy all of a sudden supposed to work?
