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Hi guys. How long should my skis be for park and all mountain(i go very fast all mountain, learning spins in park), as i weight 165lbs and am 5'11(181 cm) high. I am buying rockered park skis with a bit of added with-181 kartel, 176 kartel, 176 bdog, 180 danollie etc. Any help would be much appreciated. PS i ride opus in 185 for pow and find them a bit too big for spining or park.
181 with rocker should be perfect. It really depends on what you want to focus on. Future spins in the park, go shorter. Charging hard everywhere, 181+. a good mix of the two is 181 with rocker. I am 5'11" 170pounds and ride a mostly cambered 181 with a pinch of rocker. I would go longer if I were you.
The longer the ski the more stable it is at higher speeds, the shorter the ski the easier it is to turn and spin etc. that being said you're pretty light and can probably only flex a ski o so much. I'd say look in the 177 range so long as the ski has mostly rocker as opposed to mostly camber. Remember rockered skis ski shorter but a ski can only tell how much you weight not how tall you are. If I stood on your back and someone else weighing 20 lbs less did you could tell I weigh more, same idea with a ski, so don't feel that you have to get the longest ski out there because if you can't bend the ski you've done yourself a disservice by getting the longer ski
GmartThe longer the ski the more stable it is at higher speeds, the shorter the ski the easier it is to turn and spin etc. that being said you're pretty light and can probably only flex a ski o so much. I'd say look in the 177 range so long as the ski has mostly rocker as opposed to mostly camber. Remember rockered skis ski shorter but a ski can only tell how much you weight not how tall you are. If I stood on your back and someone else weighing 20 lbs less did you could tell I weigh more, same idea with a ski, so don't feel that you have to get the longest ski out there because if you can't bend the ski you've done yourself a disservice by getting the longer ski
No, just no.
A 181 with rocker in the tip and tail like the Kartel would be just fine for you.
If you have any doubts, just consult this chart. I realize it's Salomon, but the same basic principle aplies to all brands and it's a good starting point.
cool, thanks. I think I will go with icelantics, since they're available here, unlike on3p(which i would need to ship). How is hock absorbing and flex in da nollies? would they be just too soft to rip all mountain on them?
A 181 with rocker in the tip and tail like the Kartel would be just fine for you.
If you have any doubts, just consult this chart. I realize it's Salomon, but the same basic principle aplies to all brands and it's a good starting point.
His 185 opus probably measures closer to 181, and I'm pretty sure most of the skis he listed measure after being pressed. He may want to go shorter.
A 181 with rocker in the tip and tail like the Kartel would be just fine for you.
If you have any doubts, just consult this chart. I realize it's Salomon, but the same basic principle aplies to all brands and it's a good starting point.
lol ok do what you want but like I said, he doesn't weigh a ton, my example makes my point pretty clear cut and easy to understand about flexing a ski. Plus like I also said, each ski has a different amount of rocker to camber ratio so your chart is good but doesn't take weight, ability or construction into effect so0o0o0o yeaaa. You said it yourself, "it's a good starting point" we have all the information we need to size him on a ski so we don't need "a good starting point" we need a size. I think you'd have more fun on a shorter ski dude, but the balls in your court. Just think about what I've said, that's all I'm saying
GmartThe longer the ski the more stable it is at higher speeds, the shorter the ski the easier it is to turn and spin etc. that being said you're pretty light and can probably only flex a ski o so much. I'd say look in the 177 range so long as the ski has mostly rocker as opposed to mostly camber. Remember rockered skis ski shorter but a ski can only tell how much you weight not how tall you are. If I stood on your back and someone else weighing 20 lbs less did you could tell I weigh more, same idea with a ski, so don't feel that you have to get the longest ski out there because if you can't bend the ski you've done yourself a disservice by getting the longer ski
don't feel that you have to get the longest ski out there because if you can't bend the ski you've done yourself a disservice by getting the longer ski”
-Flex is determined by core material, profiling, and fiber layers. Also at 5’11”, I guessing he’s got a decent sized foot. A larger boot/binding footprint on a smaller ski will decrease flex compared to if it was mounted on the same ski just a size up.
“I'd say look in the 177 range so long as the ski has mostly rocker as opposed to mostly camber. Remember rockered skis ski shorter but a ski can only tell how much you weight not how tall you are.”
-You said it yourself; rockered skis have a shorter effective edge, giving the feel of skiing a shorter ski. Theoretically a rockered 181 is going to ski closer to a 177. At his weight, a full camber 177 would be perfect, making a rockered 181 also a good fit.
Gmartlol ok do what you want but like I said, he doesn't weigh a ton, my example makes my point pretty clear cut and easy to understand about flexing a ski. Plus like I also said, each ski has a different amount of rocker to camber ratio so your chart is good but doesn't take weight, ability or construction into effect so0o0o0o yeaaa. You said it yourself, "it's a good starting point" we have all the information we need to size him on a ski so we don't need "a good starting point" we need a size. I think you'd have more fun on a shorter ski dude, but the balls in your court. Just think about what I've said, that's all I'm saying
Look a any beam deflection equation. With everything else being equal between two beems, the longer one will have a greater deflection (flex) under the same force.
[nick]Look a any beam deflection equation. With everything else being equal between two beems, the longer one will have a greater deflection (flex) under the same force.
Just stop giving advice.
Get the longer ski idc. There's no arguing with people like you lol. P.s I don't think he's mentioned his boot size or how stiff his boot is. But those probably don't matter either. That being said I'll go away I'm clearly an idiot and you clearly know more about skis than me. Have a good day :)
steezy_dogeif someone is 5'2 then is a 151 too small??? im not but my friend is 5'2.
hes also pretty light
That's not bad, they probably fall somewhere around his nose/eyes. Hopefully he's still growing, if he's buying them new it couldn't hurt to go a little bigger to get a few seasons out of them.
GmartGet the longer ski idc. There's no arguing with people like you lol. P.s I don't think he's mentioned his boot size or how stiff his boot is. But those probably don't matter either. That being said I'll go away I'm clearly an idiot and you clearly know more about skis than me. Have a good day :)
I didn't say anything about the stiffness of the boot! I was commenting on your asinine theory that longer skis are harder to flex.
[nick]I didn't say anything about the stiffness of the boot! I was commenting on your asinine theory that longer skis are harder to flex.
where did I say that? I said in this particular case, he can probably only flex a ski o so much, did I not? My point is simple and clear cut, you're bringing in tractor beam equations and sharks with laser beams attached to their heads lol go away. But yea, I would get behind that statement, there's a reason fat joe who weighs 230 lbs doesn't ski the 171 that little joey who weights 160 does lol (same ski since you probably think i'm talking about two different ones) theres more force being applied to the ski, its simple physics since you like that kinda stuff :)
