1500 Year old Bible confirms Jesus was not crucified.

the_trapCollege is a worthless breeding ground for liberal non christians. Why do you think most of newschoolers agrees with you? Their beliefs were changed in college. Its rare for someone to go into college a conservative Christian and come out a conservative Christian

.Hugo.If you're wrong you will have wasted your whole life living a lie, that would be the shittiest life.

-benedettoHow old are you? I used to be similar. However, it wasn't college that changed me. You just get to a certain age and realize the fuckery involved. You'll learn one day, grasshopper. If not, to each his own. And Minnesota is a breeding ground for religious fanatics I.e drunk of jesus people. And the twin cities have the most churches per capita if I remember correctly. So do some traveling, live a little bit and figure it out on your own. College never says, "God isn't real" but you may learn that the earth wasn't made 6000 years ago. Shit, if you believe that..no helping you

Mr.HuckOne day someone will find a notebook. Scribbled in the back will be a detailed description of how skiierman persecuted the poor defenseless n00bians, and how the great Mods of NS banned him to the underworld, bringing peace and prosperity back to kingdom of New Schoolers.

They will report that the people of New Schoolers worshiped the prophet Wallisch who performed various miracles on his journey, but ultimately flew to heaven.

They will be certain that Wallischism was the dominant religion in our world, and that Wallischites honored him through the practice of drinking Monster and through the breaking of pretzels.

.Hugo.Northern Minnesota is 1000x worse when it comes to religion. At least most of the people down in the cities don't take the bible literally. As for northern MN... i'll just say there is a reason they call it gods country

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the_trapLol and I'm the one generalizing?



And by country I mean very small towns too

.Hugo.I've actually lived in both and can safely say most people living in small towns think that same thing. I can also say with confidence that the most ignorant people i've ever met come from small towns.... and im not even talking about religion when I say that. I have no idea how you can say people from small towns know more about life when you've never lived anywhere but a small town

the_trapBecause there are people from big cities that don't know what a pheasant is haha. I mean things like that, like how some people from big cities think hunting is cruel.. Hunting is a part of life, a part of real life. We live such easy lives

zzzskizzzIt's called lack of empathy, and people especially get it when it comes to killing living things. According to your Bible one of the commandment states that she'll not kill. Doesn't say people shall not kill, now I'm sure you're going to ignor that post and ignore the rest of what I say. But if you honestly believe people country know more about living in people in the city. You are truly going to be screwed for the rest of your life. Depending on where you grow up you're going to be better and other things, and worse on other things. For instance I know what to do if I'm being mugged or what streets not to walk down. And I know at night to especially stay away from empty well lit areas. You see how it doesn't make sense for me to say oh my god that guy has never been to the city before, just got mugged how stupid is he I know so much more than him. There is the fallacy in your thinking.

zzzskizzzIt's called lack of empathy, and people especially get it when it comes to killing living things. According to your Bible one of the commandment states that she'll not kill. Doesn't say people shall not kill, now I'm sure you're going to ignor that post and ignore the rest of what I say. But if you honestly believe people country know more about living in people in the city. You are truly going to be screwed for the rest of your life. Depending on where you grow up you're going to be better and other things, and worse on other things. For instance I know what to do if I'm being mugged or what streets not to walk down. And I know at night to especially stay away from empty well lit areas. You see how it doesn't make sense for me to say oh my god that guy has never been to the city before, just got mugged how stupid is he I know so much more than him. There is the fallacy in your thinking.

zzzskizzzI just bought dragon speak for my computer, and that did not go according to plan.

the_trapWhen God said you shall not kill he was talking to Moses, and God wrote it on the tablets and from then on it was for the people to follow. They have their free will whether to follow it or not though. And that commandment kinda ties in to loving your neighbor.

I see your point. I think I would be alright living in a city though, I could learn. But I do see your point.

zzzskizzzAgain there is no written evidence in Egypt, or archaeological evidence that Jews ever lived there.

the_trapMoses, and the people with him at that time were Hebrew.

zzzskizzzMy point still stands no proof they ever lived in Egypt, or traveled the desert for 40 years, and if they live there for hundreds of years and built the pyramids there would be some written record of that.

zzzskizzzIt's called lack of empathy, and people especially get it when it comes to killing living things. According to your Bible one of the commandment states that she'll not kill. Doesn't say people shall not kill, now I'm sure you're going to ignor that post and ignore the rest of what I say. But if you honestly believe people country know more about living in people in the city. You are truly going to be screwed for the rest of your life. Depending on where you grow up you're going to be better and other things, and worse on other things. For instance I know what to do if I'm being mugged or what streets not to walk down. And I know at night to especially stay away from empty well lit areas. You see how it doesn't make sense for me to say oh my god that guy has never been to the city before, just got mugged how stupid is he I know so much more than him. There is the fallacy in your thinking.

the_trapIt was only 40 years, how would there be visible evidence? Its not like a ton of them died or something.

zzzskizzzTrash and camp sites, but more importantly the Egyptians would have written something down about that if they live with them for so long which they didn't.

the_trapTrash..? You can't count on being able to find a campsite 2,500 years later.


And they weren't living with the Egyptians, they were their slaves. So if they wrote anything about their slaves during that timeframe, that would be the Hebrews.

zzzskizzzYou have a huge misunderstanding about Egypt, they really didn't have slaves except for prisoners of war, but there rally weren't a lot of them. Paid workers built the pyramids not slaves, and not Hebrews. and finally you absolutely can find evidence of campsites and fire pits 2000+ years ago that's the beauty of archaeology.

the_trapWell you would have to search the whole desert before you say they weren't there..

The Hebrews were Pharaoh's slaves. That may have been the only time they had slaves, but indeed they did

zzzskizzzJust like the flood show me your proof because there's none?

zzzskizzzMy point still stands no proof they ever lived in Egypt, or traveled the desert for 40 years, and if they live there for hundreds of years and built the pyramids there would be some written record of that.

the_trapWhat makes you think that the grand canyon couldn't have been formed by tons of water rushing through there in a short period of time?

the_trapRead Exodus chapter 1 and it will all be clear to you. And if you want a little more background, the last couple chapters in Genesis would be good to read.

TWoodsYou do realize that the Bible is composed of MANY different books, was recorded by MANY different authors, over the course of thousands of years right? That some of it is oral tradition

Panda_with_Gunsso you are asking him to look for proof, in the book that he is disputing? That is ONE source of evidence. If at any point in time it did happen, it would have been recorded in some other place. Even if it matched with just one more piece of evidence, from an out side view, i would be more inclined to believe.

the_trapWhat makes you think that the grand canyon couldn't have been formed by tons of water rushing through there in a short period of time?

zzzskizzzBecause flash floods happen all the time, and rocks don't get carved we can actually record the amount of rock that was weather down in a certain amount of time. And we know for a fact that it took millions of years for water to carve it out. We Also have a lot of writings books and libraries from ancient Egypt, not one of them refers to your claim. Only the Bible does that and because it's the only book that claims that to be true the actual people who were alive during that time didn't record it. that means........

zzzskizzzBecause flash floods happen all the time, and rocks don't get carved we can actually record the amount of rock that was weather down in a certain amount of time. And we know for a fact that it took millions of years for water to carve it out. We Also have a lot of writings books and libraries from ancient Egypt, not one of them refers to your claim. Only the Bible does that and because it's the only book that claims that to be true the actual people who were alive during that time didn't record it. that means........

messplayWait a minute, people that are avid Christians and believers believe that the earth was created no more than roughly 6,000 years ago?

the_trapWhat makes you think that the grand canyon couldn't have been formed by tons of water rushing through there in a short period of time?

the_trapYeah like 6-10,000 years. That's the creationist view

the_trapYeah like 6-10,000 years. That's the creationist view

louie.miragsNow you're trolling hard.

let me guess, you think the earth is 6000 years old and carbon dating is unreliable. Just like mommy and daddy said. LOL

messplaySo where do the dinosaurs and homo erectus and the recent discovery of one of our earliest ancestors over in the country of Georgia come into play? I mean that's like millions and millions ago. You guys simply just put that under some sort of invisible rug because adam and eve just existed and then we became civilized?

the_trapAdam and Eve were civilized, and their sons were civilized.

Genesis 4:2, "Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground."

the_trapWho has writings, books and libraries from that time? And where are they?

And sure flash floods happen all the time, but not of what that magnitude would've been.. And no you don't know for a fact that it took millions of years. If you knew for a fact you could give an exact number of years that it would've taken.


And I'm also quite sure that you haven't gone through every single ancient writing from that time to back up your claim

the_trapYeah like 6-10,000 years. That's the creationist view

the_trapAdam and Eve were civilized, and their sons were civilized.

Genesis 4:2, "Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground."

louie.miragsAdam and Eve is a made up story to teach a lesson about disobeying God. A priest told us that in Catholic school.

zzzskizzzI can give you a rough number of years it would take. I've Never cared so I never looked into it. And you're right I haven't looked at all the books but historical experts have, and they're in databases the thing I talked about before. You have to realize you just quoting the Bible isn't going to hold value for your evidence and argument. You need to have more than one source.

the_trapYou have yet to give me source that is actually in book form, not just something online. If it exists then I want to read it myself and decide for myself. That's what I have done with the Bible.

the_trapAdam and Eve were civilized, and their sons were civilized.

Genesis 4:2, "Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground."

zzzskizzzGo on to any historical database and search for yourself, I said that five times. Do you understand what I mean by that?