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JuliusJYou don't shoot photos at all? Great, this is a huge plus for you. You can buy entirely manual focus lenses then. I would recommend looking at The Vintage Lenses Thread and the "ultimate guide to vintage glass" and just try to read up as much as you can. Buy a tele lens! You have your wide to medium stuff covered, get a long lens, theres a ton of older 70-200 ish range lenses that seem too be great optically.
As for cameras, I dont know as much but it seems that the Gh series is a huge upgrade quality-wise from your t3i. Seriously, best bang for your buck I would say is a Gh2 and really learn it. Slow mo, I don't think it is anywhere as close the sony FS100/700. It also seems like these cameras NEED a tripod, so look at investing in a decent one. Theres a few threads around, maybe someone knows a link to it.
I know this isn't directly what you are asking, but seems like it needs to be said.
Michael_ThatcherWhat don't you like about the t3i? What would be your number one reason for wanting to upgrade?
JahLiamIf you're selling your t3i I might be interested
SteezyJibberI would say the biggest reason is that I need a step up in quality. I feel like the three cameras I'm looking at will produce a much better, more professional, quality image. Am I right about that? I'm not entirely sure.
nutz.Granted I don't know much about camera's either, but Gavin Rudy shoots exclusively on a t3i I believe, and his work's pretty great. It's definitely possible to produce quality images on a t3i from that standpoint at least.
.qzyxyaThough you obviously can't change the resolution limit, buying better lenses can definitely give you better image quality, as well as tweaking the settings, getting the right lighting, etc. Don't know enough to say anything about other cameras you're be looking at but it definitely is possible to improve your current setup's quality. In summary your body isn't limiting you as much as your glass, aside from resolution (which you may value more who knows)
p.hawksI would say invest in lenses, stabilization gear, audio stuff, and then focus on getting the best you can with your t3i. Get things that you can use on other cameras, so manual focus, preferably nikon mount (but nearly anything adapts to mirrorless). These can all have a huge impact on overall image quality. Then, once you have a full kit of gear that will last a long time, look for a new camera body with specific features that you want. That way, all you will need to do is buy a body, batteries, maybe lens adapters, and possibly memory cards (but you can sell the old ones).
If you have a full lens kit, so a few fast mid primes, nice wide angle, 70-200, and maybe something longer/some mid long primes, a nice tripod, a glidecam, etc. you will be all set to move to any system you want in the future. Want to try raw? Blackmagic/external recorder set up. Better slow mo? FS700/GH4 etc. I think building a whole kit now will help you more in the long run. Its not like t3i's are obsolete by a long shot, and for internet distribution, a lot of it boils down to things like this. Just something you may want to consider.
SteezyJibberI guess what I keep hearing is lenses, lenses, lenses. If anyone could point me in the direction of some real nice lenses to start looking at that can work on a T3i, GH4, or FS100, it would be helpful. Not interested in multi-thousand dollar lenses at the moment, though.
SteezyJibberThanks. Yeah, I do have experience with quality audio gear on my T3i. I've used a pre-amp, lavalier mics, shotgun mic, etc. I'm not in bad shape with stabilization -- I have a pretty nice tripod and a glidecam. My lenses aren't amazing but they're not awful...I guess?
I guess what I keep hearing is lenses, lenses, lenses. If anyone could point me in the direction of some real nice lenses to start looking at that can work on a T3i, GH4, or FS100, it would be helpful. Not interested in multi-thousand dollar lenses at the moment, though.
mvfinb4 eheath comes and shits on you for upgrading for now reason.
But seriously it sounds like you should not upgrade your body yet...
JuliusJLook at the threads I sent you. Seriously, it will maybe take an hour tops and you'll have a general idea for cheap, good, old lenses.
p.hawksOh, good to hear on the audio/stabilization stuff. For lenses, the tokina is the only one you listed really worth keeping, maybe the fisheye if you like it, but I've heard mixed reviews of the aps-c model. I would also trade the tokina for the same one in Nikon mount. Personal view has a thread on good cine lenses, like ones that don't breathe when focused. Otherwise I would get a set of Nikon/contax/Pentax/leica R primes. Try to get them all f2.8 or better, and if they have a 70-200 in the same series (I know Nikon does), get it as well. This will help with your footage matching between different shots, they all will have the same color cast/look/sharpness.
Rdwagner2if you want a more professional look I would pick the fs100 or fs700. its super 35mm sensor and ability to do 4:2:2 uncompressed output via hdmi will give you a lot better image quality and depth of field over the APS-C sensor in the t3i. the t3i only does 4:2:0.
the sony fs cameras have a lot more video settings like focus peaking and zebra, cine picture profiles and gamma. they will give you a much wider dynamic range and more to work with in color grading
cydwhitI am just going to chime in and agree with the guys who are saying to invest in glass. It sounds like this body isn't really holding you back yet. If you just want to upgrade but don't have anything in mind I would say not to do it. Glass is waaaaaay more future proof than a body. Buy some quality lenses and shoot with the t3i until you have pushed it to the point that it is limiting you. By that point you will know what you want in your next camera and all the technology you are looking at will be way cheaper. A camera body you buy now will be pretty much obsolete in a few years, lenses not so much.
VT_scratchthis is what I was thinking. can you post some of your work from your T3i? Are you shooting with settings that are producing great images? Or are you hoping a new setup will fix that for you? I'm looking to upgrade in a few months as well, but for me from a GH1. Gh4 is looking really interesting to me. Old manual nikon lenses on mirrorless cams are really tight!
SteezyJibberSo here is the link to the video. I'd say this is definitely the best idea of where I'm at now:
I do know some shots are a little overxposed/underexposed/etc. and I am working to improve more and more, however I think most of the shots in that edit came out well.
Right now I'm thinking of keeping the T3i longer and getting some better lenses. The GH3/GH4 is still appealing though, because of the ability to do 1080p 60fps.
*Nickdel*I think keeping the t3i is your best bet. You do have some nice shots in there but nothing really stuck out to me. Getting more lenses may help you more than a new body
SteezyJibberCLICKABLE VIDEO LINK: