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cobra_commanderYeah, sure, but the point is I have no real idea what my 1RM is, but have been consistently getting stronger. Yawn. Whatever I don't really care. I'm just trying to be bigger, stronger, faster and more explosive, not compete with barbell. I have been accomplishing my goals with only lifting 'heavy' twice a week and running up to 30 miles a week, and now skiing 2-3 times a week.
I'm not that strong compared to most powerlifters, weight lifters or strongmen, and wouldn't bother competing. I don't care, most of them die young anyway.
You run 30 miles a week?
Yeah sure what you do works in the gym but you are surely not maximizing your time spent. You'd need to at least know your 3RM in order to optimize strength gains. a lot of stuff "works"
but running 30 miles a week and seeing significant strength gains at the same time is one of the dumbest things I've heard. Are you a marathon runner or a powerlifter? Because apparenty you are both which I find hard to believe.
The whole 'cardio' kills your gains is just folks being lazy. Having a good cardiovascular health makes getting stronger easy.
As my body has adapted to the higher volume of running, my ability to handle volume in the weight room and recover has improved significantly.
I use a calculated max, much like everyone else who gets strong. Sure my initial maxes I started using over a year ago were based on a recent 3RM, but I have just adjusted it since. I got plenty strong plenty fast. Sure faster than the folks who were lifting at higher percentages than I do, and not running.
Funny how I stopped reading T-Nation, EliteFTS, bodybuilding.com and started listining to guys who are actually strong and actually run, leaned out my programming and boom I started to get strong.
No, my numbers aren't that high, and have a couple friends who are in the 700 and 7 club (700 or more DL, sub 7:00 mile) and both are also in the 600/6 club (squat/mile) but I'm not there yet. The nature of our life requires that we stay in good shape, and can't just get as big as we like.
saskskierJust in case anyone is interested in some ridiculous weightlifting (and likely new world records), the men's 77kg A session is going to start in about 10-15 minutes.
mirozJeebus...dat back. So fucking low on that snatch (?)
Had a good squat day on Friday and a good chest day today. Goin for another good leg day tomorrow.
Lu is ridiculous and his back is glorious. That said, while he went for a snatch world record (177kg at 77kg body weight), he missed it and then bombed (didn't make any lifts) in the c+j. Pretty big shocker.
cobra_commanderThe whole 'cardio' kills your gains is just folks being lazy. Having a good cardiovascular health makes getting stronger easy.
As my body has adapted to the higher volume of running, my ability to handle volume in the weight room and recover has improved significantly.
I use a calculated max, much like everyone else who gets strong. Sure my initial maxes I started using over a year ago were based on a recent 3RM, but I have just adjusted it since. I got plenty strong plenty fast. Sure faster than the folks who were lifting at higher percentages than I do, and not running.
Funny how I stopped reading T-Nation, EliteFTS, bodybuilding.com and started listining to guys who are actually strong and actually run, leaned out my programming and boom I started to get strong.
No, my numbers aren't that high, and have a couple friends who are in the 700 and 7 club (700 or more DL, sub 7:00 mile) and both are also in the 600/6 club (squat/mile) but I'm not there yet. The nature of our life requires that we stay in good shape, and can't just get as big as we like.
...but running just fucking sucks to do. Fuck. That.
Id rather do a sport or activity that has a payoff for the sufferfest.
saskskierLu is ridiculous and his back is glorious. That said, while he went for a snatch world record (177kg at 77kg body weight), he missed it and then bombed (didn't make any lifts) in the c+j. Pretty big shocker.
What a major, major disappointment. he smoked his 175kg snatch. Apparently, most of the field set their openers higher than his 201kg CJ opener, forcing him to rush to the platform for his opening attempt. He never recovered. Apparently, he hit 180 & 190 (didn't stand 190 up all the way). He could have changed his opener, but he was already within 3kg of 204, which i believe is his all-time competition best (tho he hit 210 this week in the hall). what a shocker.
californiagrown...but running just fucking sucks to do. Fuck. That.
Id rather do a sport or activity that has a payoff for the sufferfest.
I fucking despise running more than any other fitness discipline. It is a skill much the same as the snatch or clean and jerk, and requires just as much attention, but I just don't care.
cobra_commanderNo, my numbers aren't that high, and have a couple friends who are in the 700 and 7 club (700 or more DL, sub 7:00 mile) and both are also in the 600/6 club (squat/mile) but I'm not there yet. The nature of our life requires that we stay in good shape, and can't just get as big as we like.
how much do you weigh? How many miles do you run a day? Are you always training for a marathon?
I don't believe a word you say. Very very few people can DL 700 pounds and almost all of them don't run 30 miles a week. A 7:00/mile isn't that fast. Cardio training and endurance training are not the same thing.
MALEPRIVILEGEhow much do you weigh? How many miles do you run a day? Are you always training for a marathon?
I don't believe a word you say. Very very few people can DL 700 pounds and almost all of them don't run 30 miles a week. A 7:00/mile isn't that fast. Cardio training and endurance training are not the same thing.
You are a troll.
And you are an idiot who has very little faith in the human body.
Ever thought that some people don't give a shit about maximizing gainz in da jym? They'd rather pursue their own set of goals?
californiagrownAnd you are an idiot who has very little faith in the human body.
Ever thought that some people don't give a shit about maximizing gainz in da jym? They'd rather pursue their own set of goals?
So wait you are arguing against utilizing your time in the gym as efficiently as possible? And I'm the idiot?
there are a lot of people who spend way too much time In the gym and if they trained smarter, would see better results with less frequency. Training for a half marathon (30+ Miles/week) and putting up big numbers on squat and DL is unheard of and completely counterproductive. Nobody does both at the same time for long periods of time. Get educated bro.
"Hybrid" athletes like Alex Viada have never been able to squat over 600 and run a sub 5:00/mile during the same period of time. He did it in the same year but that required 2 separate "periods" of training. He trained to rin THEN he trained to lift. At the end of his lifting period he could not still run a sub 5:00/mile
Unless cobra commander is actually Alex Viada, I'm calling bullshit. I don't even believe he has friends.
MALEPRIVILEGESo wait you are arguing against utilizing your time in the gym as efficiently as possible? And I'm the idiot?
there are a lot of people who spend way too much time In the gym and if they trained smarter, would see better results with less frequency. Training for a half marathon (30+ Miles/week) and putting up big numbers on squat and DL is unheard of and completely counterproductive. Nobody does both at the same time for long periods of time. Get educated bro.
"Hybrid" athletes like Alex Viada have never been able to squat over 600 and run a sub 5:00/mile during the same period of time. He did it in the same year but that required 2 separate "periods" of training. He trained to rin THEN he trained to lift. At the end of his lifting period he could not still run a sub 5:00/mile
Unless cobra commander is actually Alex Viada, I'm calling bullshit. I don't even believe he has friends.
Haha your head is so far up your ass.
If running 30+ miles a week while increasing strength as much as possible is his goal, good for him. It doesn't maximize either running or strength... But that's the point, ya knumbskull! It chases both goals at the same time. And most importantly, he likes it!
His goals are different from yours. Is that really so difficult to understand? His body recovers different from yours. Why is all this so tough to understand?
Monday: Upper Body Strength + 20 min slow run (2.5-3mi)
Tuesday: Lower body strength + Intervals (2-5 miles total)
Wednesday: 20-40 min tempo run (3-6miles) and or skiing (touring or resort)
Thursday: Upper Body Work Capacity and Hypertrophy and skiing (touring or resort)
Friday: Lower Body Work Capacity and Hypertrophy + Fartlek run (4-6 miles) or ruck (6-10 miles)
Saturday: Pizza Donuts Dark Beer and GO HUSKIES!!!!
Sunday: ski tour / 45-80min LSR / 90-180min ruck
Obviously I reduce my lower body training volume in the winter if I am skiing up to three days a week. Sometime eliminating the Friday weight training.
Anyways, you can see how there is a lot of auto regulation built into my programming with regards to the run intensity and volume. Most weeks are generally going to be closer to 20 miles of running a week.
My strength goals are to be decently big and strong but have no desire to compete, I just like not running into shit where my strength is a limiting factor. Running and being good at it is however mandatory for my life. Outside of still being the standard for physical fitness, it leads to better overall health. Nothing like watching powerlifters I know get out of breath walking up a flight of stairs. Excellent cardiovascular health and strength endurance has saved my life before.
Plus, it's always fun watching doctors when they see my low 30s resting heart rate.
I also don't worry too much about eating outside of my diet, although actually listining to some nutritionists and following the RP templates with regards to carb/fat balancing and meal timing has allowed me to push higher levels of training as to opposed to when I just ate food.
cobra_commanderFunny how 'running up to 30 miles a week'
Turned into 'running 30 miles each week'
Most weeks are around 20 miles:
Monday: Upper Body Strength + 20 min slow run (2.5-3mi)
Tuesday: Lower body strength + Intervals (2-5 miles total)
Wednesday: 20-40 min tempo run (3-6miles) and or skiing (touring or resort)
Thursday: Upper Body Work Capacity and Hypertrophy and skiing (touring or resort)
Friday: Lower Body Work Capacity and Hypertrophy + Fartlek run (4-6 miles) or ruck (6-10 miles)
Saturday: Pizza Donuts Dark Beer and GO HUSKIES!!!!
Sunday: ski tour / 45-80min LSR / 90-180min ruck
Obviously I reduce my lower body training volume in the winter if I am skiing up to three days a week. Sometime eliminating the Friday weight training.
Anyways, you can see how there is a lot of auto regulation built into my programming with regards to the run intensity and volume. Most weeks are generally going to be closer to 20 miles of running a week.
My strength goals are to be decently big and strong but have no desire to compete, I just like not running into shit where my strength is a limiting factor. Running and being good at it is however mandatory for my life. Outside of still being the standard for physical fitness, it leads to better overall health. Nothing like watching powerlifters I know get out of breath walking up a flight of stairs. Excellent cardiovascular health and strength endurance has saved my life before.
Plus, it's always fun watching doctors when they see my low 30s resting heart rate.
I also don't worry too much about eating outside of my diet, although actually listining to some nutritionists and following the RP templates with regards to carb/fat balancing and meal timing has allowed me to push higher levels of training as to opposed to when I just ate food.
I heard that UW is installing a new FieldTurf at Husky stadium made from recycled cardboard. Yeah, I guess the AD realized that the team is much better on paper...
Question for those working on knee/leg strength for the season. Ran across this and seemed like an interesting body weight/conditioning workout. Anyone have any opinions on this? I'm looking to incorporate some of these movements into the running days.
dmskiQuestion for those working on knee/leg strength for the season. Ran across this and seemed like an interesting body weight/conditioning workout. Anyone have any opinions on this? I'm looking to incorporate some of these movements into the running days.
haha yeah probably a good idea. Their setup is 16 reps, 10 exercises, 3 sets of each.
Modified jump squats+russian twists
agility dots+tricep dips
high knee step overs+single leg lateral hops
single leg forward/back hops+3 point squats with weight
low squat jump twists+lunge with kettle bell upper rotation
dmskihaha yeah probably a good idea. Their setup is 16 reps, 10 exercises, 3 sets of each.
Modified jump squats+russian twists
agility dots+tricep dips
high knee step overs+single leg lateral hops
single leg forward/back hops+3 point squats with weight
low squat jump twists+lunge with kettle bell upper rotation
Sure, why the hell not? You're young and athletic right? Give 'er a try and see if you like it. I wouldn't base a program around it, but a few times a week sounds like something worth trying out.
californiagrownI heard that UW is installing a new FieldTurf at Husky stadium made from recycled cardboard. Yeah, I guess the AD realized that the team is much better on paper...
MALEPRIVILEGESo wait you are arguing against utilizing your time in the gym as efficiently as possible? And I'm the idiot?
there are a lot of people who spend way too much time In the gym and if they trained smarter, would see better results with less frequency. Training for a half marathon (30+ Miles/week) and putting up big numbers on squat and DL is unheard of and completely counterproductive. Nobody does both at the same time for long periods of time. Get educated bro.
"Hybrid" athletes like Alex Viada have never been able to squat over 600 and run a sub 5:00/mile during the same period of time. He did it in the same year but that required 2 separate "periods" of training. He trained to rin THEN he trained to lift. At the end of his lifting period he could not still run a sub 5:00/mile
Unless cobra commander is actually Alex Viada, I'm calling bullshit. I don't even believe he has friends.
I think if anything you're uneducated. I have a 585DL and a sub 5:00 mile. Don't run that often since highschool. Could easily be 600 and 5 in two months if that was my goal.
Turned out the gym closed at 6 today, so getting there at 5 meant I had to rush to squeeze in my sets. Only took about ~2 min rest between sets on the last three of five. I actually got a cramp from lifting...lol. My form was questionable on the last set but I managed to hammer out out a 5x8 at 275 before the gym closed. Ready to up the weight!
Turned out the gym closed at 6 today, so getting there at 5 meant I had to rush to squeeze in my squat sets. Only took about ~2 min rest between sets on the last three of five. I actually got a cramp from lifting...lol. My form was questionable on the last set but I managed to hammer out out a 5x8 at 275 before the gym closed. Ready to up the weight!
Turned out the gym closed at 6 today, so getting there at 5 meant I had to rush to squeeze in my squat sets. Only took about ~2 min rest between sets on the last three of five. I actually got a cramp from lifting...lol. My form was questionable on the last set but I managed to hammer out out a 5x8 at 275 before the gym closed. Ready to up the weight!
mirozTurned out the gym closed at 6 today, so getting there at 5 meant I had to rush to squeeze in my sets. Only took about ~2 min rest between sets on the last three of five. I actually got a cramp from lifting...lol. My form was questionable on the last set but I managed to hammer out out a 5x8 at 275 before the gym closed. Ready to up the weight!
mirozTurned out the gym closed at 6 today, so getting there at 5 meant I had to rush to squeeze in my squat sets. Only took about ~2 min rest between sets on the last three of five. I actually got a cramp from lifting...lol. My form was questionable on the last set but I managed to hammer out out a 5x8 at 275 before the gym closed. Ready to up the weight!
mirozTurned out the gym closed at 6 today, so getting there at 5 meant I had to rush to squeeze in my squat sets. Only took about ~2 min rest between sets on the last three of five. I actually got a cramp from lifting...lol. My form was questionable on the last set but I managed to hammer out out a 5x8 at 275 before the gym closed. Ready to up the weight!
One of the things that has been great is doing EMOM training to help build work capacity.
example: 10 sets of 5 @ 60% EMOM, or 10x3x67.5% With any sort of squats, you have to start to really dig around sets 6 or 7. Then take the last set for a max effort of 15+ reps.
Crispy.It's amazing how quickly my priorities change once skiing starts.
Usually it's
School
Gym
Food
Sleep
Reading for enjoyment.
Now it is
School tied with skiing
Gym
Sleep
Food
That's a good thing IMO. Never utilizing that hard work in the gym is a waste of the time spent.
Lifting weights doesn't make you an athlete, to keep your athleticism from atrophying you need to pursue athletic activities with a similar rigor to lifting weights.
californiagrownThat's a good thing IMO. Never utilizing that hard work in the gym is a waste of the time spent.
Lifting weights doesn't make you an athlete, to keep your athleticism from atrophying you need to pursue athletic activities with a similar rigor to lifting weights.
Oh most definitely. I've realized I'm pretty happy where I'm at physically. Though there's always improvements to be made, I'm like the way I look, am strong enough, my cardio is in check, and I eat very well. Skiing is where all the hard work I've put in over this past year will really pay off.
cobra_commanderIf you don't follow Nikeweightlifting on Instagram you are missing out.
It's been gold lately, but I think the one with the dude fainting to Adele some of his best work.
Also, Reza's 263.5kg c+j world record was broken today by Alexi Lovchev... Only up .5kg to 264kg, but still an 11 year old record. Also, it was an 16kg jump from his second to third attempt, which is insane.
saskskierIt's been gold lately, but I think the one with the dude fainting to Adele some of his best work.
Also, Reza's 263.5kg c+j world record was broken today by Alexi Lovchev... Only up .5kg to 264kg, but still an 11 year old record. Also, it was an 16kg jump from his second to third attempt, which is insane.
MeapDude, his left arm is on the verge of snapping the wrong way... Im like, oh please god dont snap his arm :'(
Pretty sick lift indeed
Lots of guys have awkward looking elbows when they have the bar overhead, but I agree. I mean he's got 580ish lbs overhead. A normal person's elbows would explode (which is awful to see)
Here's a better (albeit longer) video of the lift.
Still have to wait until mid December to find out if I actually have another hernia.. Debating just starting back at the gym since I haven't had any pain in a couple weeks.
RedPandaStill have to wait until mid December to find out if I actually have another hernia.. Debating just starting back at the gym since I haven't had any pain in a couple weeks.
I wouldn't risk it man. It'd be the worst to re-injure yourself and be out for even longer.
Worked out for the first time in a month and it felt so good. Took it fairly easy to work back into it but I didn't have any hernia pain at all (knock on wood). I haven't been getting much exercise at all recently so I feel so good right now, I missed it
All you lazy fucks have been skipping your workouts for the holidaze!
...me too.
Plus I re-hurt my back mid-December, so that'll have me out of commission for a while. No more deadlifting after squatting, I guess that's too much for me. I'll probably switch to sumo if I decide to deadlift ever again. Trying to stay more mobile than last time. Saw a chiro and a GP and both concluded it was a muscular injury, not spinal, so that's a plus.
mirozAll you lazy fucks have been skipping your workouts for the holidaze!
I have been pretty good at keeping with it! I took a week off for a trip out to Whistler. Just got back and got separated my shoulder (1st degree only so that is good). I'm pretty much limited to squats and no park skiing for the next 1-2 weeks. In the meantime I'm going to focus on flexibility (I realize it takes longer than a couple weeks) and my switch unnatural riding:)
So fucking tired of going to commercial gyms and just dealing with the bullshit. Should I:
A) Buy a downhill mtn bike (been racing for a few years now, love it)
B) Start a home gym in my garage (barbell / weld power rack / random accessories)
loopieSo fucking tired of going to commercial gyms and just dealing with the bullshit. Should I:
A) Buy a downhill mtn bike (been racing for a few years now, love it)
B) Start a home gym in my garage (barbell / weld power rack / random accessories)
Unfortunately both is not an option.
If you love mtn biking, I'd go with that one. If you get a gym in your garage, you're also going to want to keep up with some cardio. Without a mountain bike, you're best option would probably be running, and a lot of people hate doing that. With the bike, you're able to get cardio and leg strength which I believe are healthier options with less risk of injury than getting JACKED AF .
Did my first interval session with the airdyne today. 4 minutes of 20-10 work/rest. Holy crap. It didn't even hit until I was on my last two intervals, but then I was pretty much wrecked. Breathing hasn't burned that much in a long, long time...
Crispy.If you love mtn biking, I'd go with that one. If you get a gym in your garage, you're also going to want to keep up with some cardio. Without a mountain bike, you're best option would probably be running, and a lot of people hate doing that. With the bike, you're able to get cardio and leg strength which I believe are healthier options with less risk of injury than getting JACKED AF .
youre saying DH mountain biking is less dangerous than something? huh.
Im gonna have to disagree on that haha.
To the original guy- id get a slack 6" trail bike and keep a membership at a shitty big box gym. You can take that kinda bike anywhere from park laps to shuttling rowdy DH trails, plus you can actually pedal it to the top of your local trails, and its still relativley fun on the mellower loops in your area. Keep the gym membership and just accept that you arent a high level lifter and dont need to follow a super strict, regimented workout plan only using the finest barbells, racks and plates.
