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Armed men take control of Crimean Airport

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Mr.Sloth
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Happened earlier this morning. Lots of speculation going on as to who they are.
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They're letting the airport function as usual, speak Russian, and are heavily armed/ seem well trained and equipped. Good article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10666893/Ukraine-crisis-live-Russia-admits-its-troops-are-moving-in-Crimea.html
Feb 28 2014 11:36AM
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GayWolf420
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such a interesting situation, to say the least. its beyond me why more people aren't talking about this.
Feb 28 2014 11:57AM
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Mr.Sloth
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I know! I've been on twitter all morning watching it unfold
Feb 28 2014 12:23PM
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GayWolf420
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do they have any idea who these dudes are yet? heard they aren't affiliated with any Gov't.
Feb 28 2014 12:25PM
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Bombogenesis
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hollywood gossip is obviously way more important


oh also gay marriage and gun control. can't forget to talk about that stuff at least 22 hours of the day on MSM
Feb 28 2014 12:27PM
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Mr.Sloth
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but really though, get it together guys



Come on, this is like real life CoD. An armed force shows up out of nowhere and storms an airport? And now Russia is flying helicopters into the area? This could be Russia vs Georgia Episode 2, Crimea edition.
Feb 28 2014 12:35PM
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whoa-dere
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wait so is crimea a part of ukraine or its own country?
Feb 28 2014 3:40PM
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Xanadoo
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its part of ukraine but it functions almost autonomously
Feb 28 2014 3:42PM
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Mr.Sloth
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UPDATE Putin asking Russian Parliament for permission to use military fork in Ukraine
Mar 1 2014 9:19AM
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theBearJew
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Oh shit. What would happen is Russia went in and occupied Ukraine.. Is there a possibility for war in Ukraine beyond just a civil war?
Mar 1 2014 9:22AM
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Mr.Sloth
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I doubt the west would risk getting tangled up in a war with Russia. I also doubt Russian would move beyond the Crimean.

Crimea is a semiautonomous region of Ukraine and is a majority ethnic Russian. Recently, there have been a strung of protests in favor of leaving Ukraine and joining Russia.

I see Russia using the turmoil as
A) a chance to strengthen their control on Ukraine (obvious)
B) swallow up some territory that is already very Russian to begin with (more risky for Russia... but seems to be what's happening)
Mar 1 2014 9:26AM
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Mr.Sloth
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^please excuse my typos, on mobile
Mar 1 2014 9:27AM
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GayWolf420
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putins doing this in retaliation for his hockey team


all jokes aside, shit is about to go down. Putin wants to use his troops
Mar 1 2014 9:34AM
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Mr.Sloth
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And he can. Russia fucking loves him and will let him do what he wants
Mar 1 2014 9:45AM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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this is cray, its a way bigger deal than we seem to be hearing about. remarkably the new facebook trends thing has had more relevant news on this than CNN.
Mar 1 2014 9:57AM
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GayWolf420
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so yeah they want to use force now. shits gonna go down.
Mar 1 2014 10:07AM
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ZeMagnificentKev
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Im calling a return of a crap load of veteran Chechnian's and other bad dudes from Syria, shit will then hit the fan. This is crazy though, guess Russia's feeling pretty tough after Sochi.
Mar 1 2014 10:20AM
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shitpoop
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Holy shit this is world war fucking 3.
Mar 1 2014 10:35AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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AP reports that Russian Parliament has approved Putins request to send troops to Ukraine. Shit is about to hit the fan.
Mar 1 2014 10:38AM
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louie.mirags
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hopefully not and the troops are used for peace. Some scare tactics to get their point across...
Mar 1 2014 11:02AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Russia now wants to remove their ambassador from the US. This is moving quick. Hey Barry, happy hour is over, lets get some sort of announcement or something here.
Mar 1 2014 11:03AM
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corona
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source? Don't exactly believe this.

The US ambassador is leaving Russia, but that's been known for a while since he stated he was stepping down about a month ago.
Mar 1 2014 11:09AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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BBC. Go to for live coverage because all US news sucks.

Yuri Vorobyov, Ms Matviyenko's deputy, said during a debate broadcast live by Russian state TV that US President Obama had "crossed a red line" and "insulted" the people of Russia. "I think it is necessary to demand that the Russian president recall the Russian ambassador from the United States of America," he said.

The speaker of Russia's upper house, Valentina Matviyenko, is taking steps to ask President Putin to recall the Russian ambassador from the US - AFP.
Mar 1 2014 11:11AM
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Mr.Sloth
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Ukrainian PM is being very stupid.


Mar 1 2014 11:44AM
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Mr.Sloth
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This. I'm getting all my news off Twitter from european news outlets.


Mar 1 2014 12:05PM
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Turner.
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Al Jazeera's got a live blog going too: http://live.aljazeera.com/Event/Ukraine_liveblog
Mar 1 2014 12:10PM
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Randy_Quench
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Threads. surely these threats are extreme but its crazy they are being made in the first place.-

"Ukrainian parliament warns that if Russia doesn’t tread carefully it will be dealing with a nuclear power."
Mar 1 2014 12:11PM
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Mr.Sloth
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Ukraine signing their death warrant. Here's the deal:

They don't have nukes, and the PM is claiming they can make them in 3-6 months.

Russia can very easily take these statements and level Kiev in a day if they so choose, and do it semi-legally. Very dangerous thing to say.
Mar 1 2014 12:18PM
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corona
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this is very different from Russia wanting to remove their ambassador.
Mar 1 2014 12:19PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Not really. Some of them want to, but they may not do it. But apparently the UN is having an emergency meeting today at some point.
Mar 1 2014 12:21PM
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Turner.
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"#ukraine amb to UN Yuriy Sergeyev tells me on @AJEnglish Ukraine & Russia are "close" to all out war, hopes situation does not escalate."
Mar 1 2014 12:22PM
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Mr.Sloth
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As they should, but Russia will walk in, say something along the lines of "Threats to russian lives/ threats from Ukrainian gov/ We will act to protect our citizens" and the rest of the security council will sputter and condemn them, and then next week russian armor will roll up and down Crimea.
Mar 1 2014 12:24PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Most likely. Putin has very little if any fear of the UN and the US.
Mar 1 2014 12:27PM
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corona
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why are so many Americans making it seems like Russia's actions are all about them? At this point it really has nothing to do with the US at all, yet you have American politicians saying stuff like "Russia seems to want another Cold War".
Mar 1 2014 12:30PM
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Mr.Sloth
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Someone just tweeted this picture. They claim it is from the Crimea, but I don't have any background on it/ context. Still a good picture.

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Mar 1 2014 12:32PM
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corona
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yes really. A few politicians in the Kremlin saying they want something done is very far from being able to say that Russia wants it done and even further from it actually happening.
Mar 1 2014 12:32PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Double standard issues.

People criticize the US for getting involved in foreign affairs yet condemn us when we do not.

Besides, lets be honest, the UN is toothless and gutless in this situation. What other foreign country can stand up to Russia?
Mar 1 2014 12:35PM
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corona
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China. but they wouldn't. The EU (France, UK, Germany, etc) as a whole. And they would.
Mar 1 2014 12:38PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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My point exactly though. China would never, and those countries would almost certainly want the backing of the United States when it comes to taking on Russia.
Mar 1 2014 12:41PM
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Mr.Sloth
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People on twitter seem to think the plainclothes are Spetsnaz (special forces) based off of weapons. Click for larger image
Mar 1 2014 12:46PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Who ever they are, they have military training and weaponry. Would not be surprised if they were.
Mar 1 2014 12:48PM
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corona
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Meanwhile, the best Canada can do is offer 200k in aid. Step it up here Stevie, you can do better than that. What happened to Canada being the go-to nation for peacekeeping missions?
Mar 1 2014 12:51PM
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Mr.Sloth
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(This is from what I've read on twitter, so it may be incorrect)

The guy facing away in the last picture is using a rifle/grenade launcher used by Spetsnaz. They're wearing white armbands, which are associated with Pro-Russian forces in Crimea. I'm not sure whats going on in the picture, looks like a firefight? not seeing anything about that on twitter.
Mar 1 2014 12:51PM
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gawd
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So who has an open room in Canada ?
Mar 1 2014 1:24PM
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Dustin.
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Just scaled down by a factor of about 100,000

WTF are you talking about
Mar 1 2014 1:25PM
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howlongcanausern
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correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the US say they would defend Ukraine in the event of invasion in exchange for joining the NPT?
Mar 1 2014 1:26PM
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gawd
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No correction needed.
Mar 1 2014 1:27PM
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Dustin.
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Seriously, they are going full retard right now.
Mar 1 2014 1:28PM
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Mr.Sloth
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Fear mongering as usual.

NATO and the US need to keep their hands out of this. The Crimea was already headed to Russian control one way or the other.
Mar 1 2014 1:33PM
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Mr.Sloth
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The argument could be made that the Crimea, being semi autonomous from Ukraine, might not "deserve" (bad wording) a military intervention from the United States.
Mar 1 2014 1:36PM
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Dustin.
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World War II was a 6 year, 60? million casualty conflict. Let's pump the brakes.
Mar 1 2014 1:36PM
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