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WHEN DOES NS BUY NEW SKIS -- or retire a set of skis

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first_rodeo
Posts: 2383 - Karma: 7,764
All of us have friends that have parents that buy them new setups every year

brand new ARs
brand new Looks
brand new Fulltilts

i've never seen it necessary, as i take care of my skis and maintain rather than replace


My view: skis are like skateboard decks, its a matter of personal preference

i skate my decks well beyond razor tails, chips and warp

Last year i decided to set my old Armadas old Lines aside old K2s and get Salomon Threats

they did not last long........... clearly cheap skis are made to be replaced after 1 park season

I plan on buying some new Armadas and keeping them in my "lineup" for 5 years like the others



WHEN DOES NS BUY NEW SKIS -- or retire a set of skis
















Oct 19 2013 12:42PM
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Simon.k
Posts: 918 - Karma: 1,051
3+ years
ON3P for the win
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Oct 20 2013 8:58PM
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patt.
Posts: 598 - Karma: 1,272
Same here, especially since it's usually the same technology.
Oct 20 2013 9:07PM
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Where-am-I
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i usually wait for really bad edge problems, but on one occasion i upgraded because my salomon 2012's felt dead and lifeless (in addition too lots of edge missing). so it takes me a couple seasons to wear out a park ski, but my scott punishers had the edge tear out on the second day, so i'll see how long that lasts. . .
Oct 20 2013 10:48PM
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Weeezy
Posts: 385 - Karma: 342
After some dickface tried to rocker my park skis
Oct 20 2013 11:17PM
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dan1080
Posts: 1293 - Karma: 913
far too long after i actually should
Oct 20 2013 11:28PM
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Mainah
Posts: 728 - Karma: 1,101
I've had a pair of 2010 AR7s that are pretty rugged but the best ones I've had are the 2008 (I think) AR6s. I've beat the piss out of those and they have been retired to my teaching skis and urban skis but are still holding strong. I have also never blown an edge out of a pair of Armadas for what it's worth.
Oct 21 2013 1:06PM
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GrahamGould
Posts: 713 - Karma: 2,439
I usually wait until they snap in half, but sometimes you just need new skis.
Oct 21 2013 11:13PM
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KingTaco
Posts: 2510 - Karma: 2,824
its really a factor of how hard you go. people say "maintain" whatever the fuck that means

if youre sending it huge onto rails then the edges are gonna be tearing out in no time. I fucked the absolute shit out of a pair of rossi scratches in 25 days, and had to ski them for 25 more days before i could get skis. 12 inches of edge missing on all 4 sides WITH the sidewalls separating from the bases

obviously better skis last a little longer but if someone is saying their park skis lasted them 4 years they plain and simply just do not go hard

I just got a pair of ar7s and I fully intend on beating the shit out of them. Itll be interesting to see if they can last me a full season
Oct 22 2013 8:44AM
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E2W13
Posts: 155 - Karma: 997
my STL's have lasted me since 09 and I go pretty hard
but they're my pipe skis :P
Oct 22 2013 8:04PM
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Benson.
Posts: 2739 - Karma: 3,787
Dude! What are you talking about, you could get two more seasons out of those!
Oct 22 2013 8:10PM
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KWS
Posts: 28 - Karma: 175
Bought armada alpha 1s at the beginning of last season. Fell out of my unlocked ski rack at 55 and minor scratch was all on the top sheet of one ski. After skiing them all season they held up perfectly. Thinking they will last me 2 more years. Armada is expensive but the skis are bomb proof, saving you money by not having to cop new skis every year
Oct 22 2013 9:43PM
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OCM
Posts: 1276 - Karma: 975
Mattsaff still has a pair of '03 K2 Public Enemy's that he breaks out in the backyard and even on the slopes a couple times a year. Literally no edge missing, theyre bombproof.
Oct 22 2013 9:53PM
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GeorgiaJibber
Posts: 1605 - Karma: 1,344
Well i ripped out my edge on my s4'in 30 days i believe, and i snapped my dominos in 20, but that was my fault since i underroaed a backflip into slush and my tips just dug in. But my warranted domains should last me for 2 years, just hope i don't crack my edges on the first day like i did last time...
Oct 22 2013 10:21PM
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pow314
Posts: 424 - Karma: 111
I buy at least 2 new pairs of skis every year, along with rent and tuition. I just have a pretty damn good job. Really though, if you can't afford a 400 dollar pair of skis every year you should get a better job. It's really not that expensive.
Oct 23 2013 8:26AM
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fortyvalve
Posts: 1442 - Karma: 1,570
i am riding 2010 volkl bridges and not really sure when my next pair will be, hopefully this season or next
Oct 23 2013 10:29AM
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John18_6
Posts: 7313 - Karma: 49,158
I'll just have to Wally it, takeoff and land switch for every trick.
Oct 23 2013 11:21AM
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smelllllllllly
Posts: 55 - Karma: 173
Buy used skis. THRASH. Repeat.
Oct 23 2013 12:31PM
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Holte
Posts: 10730 - Karma: 7,744
why on earth would you buy new boots every season? I have nightmares about those first few weeks of breaking in new boots.
Oct 23 2013 12:58PM
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NH_OPERATOR
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Its funny, I find myself stocking up on skis whenever I find a good pair for cheap. For instance right now on ebay someone is selling some 2012 Line Afterbangs for 130 in my size. I already have a fine pair of skis mounted, a pair of heads still in the plastic wrap, but its such a deal. I HAVE A PROBLEM
Oct 23 2013 2:28PM
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E2W13
Posts: 155 - Karma: 997
its not called a lineup.. the correct term is "quiver"
Oct 23 2013 5:08PM
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TheHamburglar
Posts: 3895 - Karma: 3,314
still riding the blue volkl walls from 2009, some good ass park skis. not that a good ass park skier is riding em, but they've held the fuck up through it all
Oct 23 2013 5:16PM
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first_rodeo
Posts: 2383 - Karma: 7,764
i just destroyed two pairs of skis.
 now im brakeless, edge-less, riding patchjob mothertruckers
Nov 26 2013 7:13AM
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Joonas
Posts: 568 - Karma: 230
No park ski will last longer than a season unless you ski like 30 days a season, and dont touch rails. or just suck
Nov 26 2013 7:53AM
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-SnowSnoli-
Posts: 756 - Karma: 1,703
Used to be when there was more p tex than base material.... But working in a shop, you cant help but buy new ones every year. to much ski porn around
Nov 26 2013 7:57AM
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Eedy
Posts: 3 - Karma: 11
When they break and then hunt for deals on older models etc..
Nov 26 2013 8:05AM
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Kunkle75
Posts: 45 - Karma: 8
When your skiing 50+ days a year you go through skis like water. I went through 2 sets of skis last year and got a new pair this year. But then again I throw down every time I ski.
Nov 26 2013 10:28AM
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littlelyonsman
Posts: 181 - Karma: 365
I usually use 1 pair until they're 3 yrs old… then they become the ones I use for urban and woods riding. I use the new ones in parks until they get too old
Nov 26 2013 10:33AM
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Yaraelpoof.png
Posts: 1556 - Karma: 6,417
I replace the gear when I think that because I am using it it has compromised my performance. So I ride my skis for a LONG time. But the moment boots become uncomfortable then I get new ones. I generally get new boots every season.
Nov 26 2013 10:36AM
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Kunkle75
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I dont know of any ski where the edges last for more than 30 days without tearing out if you are throwing down on rails.
Nov 26 2013 10:38AM
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J.D.
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This is the thing... you really don't need to replace skis very often if they don't suck. I swear everything On3p makes is good for 200+ days. Same with a lot of other companies.

I retire skis when I don't find myself using them anymore. This takes forever. For example, I have a pair of 2003 Seth Pistols that are being retired this year. They're still rideable, I just don't use them as rock skis anymore. My 05-06 Pollards are probably on their last season.

I buy new skis when I can justify it in terms of filling a gap in the quiver. This year was easy; I decided I wanted a lightweight touring setup that would handle pow, so I got some Drifts with Dynafits and BDMo skins. Next on the agenda is a more serious, harder charging touring setup, which may entail BG Tours or carbon Megawatts with Dukes or Beasts. There's always a particular role for a ski I'm buying that I envision for it. And I usually think about it for a year or more before doing it, rarely do I impulse buy a ski.

Nov 26 2013 11:04AM
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40oz.
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people underestimate how fucking harsh east coast/midwest groomers are on skis.  Fuck a lot of the time we're skiing on ice chunks that shit does some serious damage.

Then add the beating from all the boxes, rails, etc.

 I can see most skis making it a year regardless, but easily see why some people need to get a new set each year.


Nov 26 2013 11:05AM
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closeyetfar11
Posts: 387 - Karma: 1,079
When they're broke as hell, and I'm not.
Nov 26 2013 11:39AM
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rach
Posts: 917 - Karma: 507
The threat is probably Salomon's least expensive ski.
Basically a foam core kid's ski made in adult's sizes - you get what you pay for.


Nov 26 2013 12:13PM
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Labattski
Posts: 201 - Karma: 74
I don't ski park so skis usually last me a few seasons. Usually they get beat up by rocks and stuff. My groomer only skis last me forever tho
Nov 26 2013 4:38PM
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mvxri
Posts: 190 - Karma: 2,114
I am always looking for older ones
I've got my thalls from 11/12 2 weeks ago for 200 bucks

Nov 26 2013 4:46PM
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pastysmasher
Posts: 780 - Karma: 664
My last pair i retired after part of the edge had fallen out and i'd rockered them after taking a big crash on a pow kicker. Would've got some new ones sooner but was crazy broke.
Nov 26 2013 4:51PM
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kamron_708
Posts: 944 - Karma: 1,129
Once I break them or get bored(in that case ill sell or trade those). Any given season I normally replace each pair once or twice
Nov 27 2013 3:32PM
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Woodhouse
Posts: 390 - Karma: 160
I take good care of my pow skis, but still ski them hard. Repair them the same night as they get damaged (unless they need to dr) Im on season 3 with my Bent Chetlers and they feel the exact same as day 1.

Park skis are totally dependent on how much I actually end up skiing park that year, but I can usually stretch a couple seasons.
Nov 27 2013 3:36PM
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The.Doctor
Posts: 194 - Karma: 832
I usually get new skies every 2-3 years but use the old pair for urban or kicking around in on a shitty day.

If you look at the prices of park skis in comparison to beginner skis you'll notice that the park skis would be around the same price.
Now compare the park skis to intermediate skis- You'll notice now that intermediate skis are slightly more in price
Finally compare park skis to advanced/ powder skis- You'll notice a price around double for the powder skis. Why? Because park skis are made for the 1-2 season. The company knows you'll damage them beyond use so they put a cheap price tag on them so you'll buy them more often.
A powder ski, on the other hand can last years and years and years. There is also more material going into the powder skis so obviously; a price increase.
Each ski type is made with an intelligent price tag.
Beginner- Mediocre 300-500
Intermediate- Decent 500-700
Advanced- Outrageous 700-1100
Powder- Outrageous 700-1300
Park skis- Cheap Cheap Cheap 300-600
Now these are just estimates on price obviously there are skis that don't fall under that price range for the skill level of the ski.
Nov 27 2013 7:26PM
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Willard
Posts: 5117 - Karma: 429
My current skis have delam in both tip and tails//ductape

sidewalls missing from both pairs///YOLO

Edgess//lullzzzz

No life left//fuck it

bindings broken///fuck it
Nov 27 2013 7:29PM
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PKNeison
Posts: 313 - Karma: 721
I like to ski as much as I can out of one set, which would last me about 2 seasons, then use the money I've saved or that time to buy some banging skis and outerwear
Nov 27 2013 8:08PM
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mousespecial14
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Usually my skis are finished once the years over. I just bought Rossignol Experience 88 and I'm hoping they last a little longer though.

http://www.squidoo.com/best-skis
Jul 22 2014 7:04PM
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mousespecial14
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Usually my skis are finished once the years over. I just bought Rossignol Experience 88 and I'm hoping they last a little longer though.

http://www.squidoo.com/best-skis
Jul 22 2014 7:04PM
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mousespecial14
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Usually my skis are finished once the years over. I just bought Rossignol Experience 88 and I'm hoping they last a little longer though.squidoo.com/best-skis
Jul 22 2014 7:05PM
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lurking
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mousespecial14Usually my skis are finished once the years over. I just bought Rossignol Experience 88 and I'm hoping they last a little longer though.squidoo.com/best-skis


All of your three posts are in the same thread
Jul 22 2014 7:11PM
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spaceghostpurp
Posts: 249 - Karma: 835
when ever i see a pair of skis that i really like i buy them. I work in a ski shop so its really cheap.
Jul 22 2014 7:19PM
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toastyteenagers
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When you break them
Jul 22 2014 7:19PM
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spaceghostpurp
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spaceghostpurpwhen ever i see a pair of skis that i really like i buy them. I work in a ski shop so its really cheap.


and i ride the old ones until they break and mount bindings on the new ones and ride those until the break.
Jul 22 2014 7:20PM
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S.J.W
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My Liberty Morphics 11/12 are on their third season here in Australia. I love them and they're so durable. Admittedly I don't thrash my skis as much as other people, I only just got into hitting kinked rails but I've been sliding rails for a while now. I still think I'll be able to get a couple more seasons out of them.
Jul 22 2014 7:44PM
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skier58284
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>When do I get a new pair?
Whenever I can.
>When do I retire a pair?
I don't, I just add to my quiver. Right now it's K2 Extreme, K2 Obsethed, and Surface Lab 001, and I'll probably be adding Dynastar Cham 127 this summer (though I probably won't have money for bindings for a while).
Jul 22 2014 7:47PM
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