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integralmgmtAs far as the cost of these programs goes, there is a huge problem right now, and younger people are forced to pay for their parents and grand parents. However, the US -and global- population is aging, meaning this won't be as much of a problem in 20 years, which will hopefully lower the costs of these programs.
This paper from Harvard (hell, maybe Yoski wrote it) explains the European Welfare State, which was condemned by US conservatives in the 80's, but is now working really well.
zzzskizzzI would just like for people to learn from this experience, and maybe try something before they try 40 times to stop it, and shut down the government. It was insane how much op was against this. I can't find the post, but I remember I asked him you really think nothing positive will come from this, and he said no there are no benefits to this plan. 0 good things will come from this.
integralmgmtAmericans don't have a choice in trying out the programs, and, without reform, the critics are correct in predicting failure. Congress just has to get their heads out of their asses and try to figure something out. There has been a lot of crack down on people who abuse the system, and I think crackdown combined with moderate cutbacks (67 for Social Security, higher co pays to reduce unnecessary medical care) would sustain these programs which really do benefit Americans. I guess if you just look at most blue collar, retired Americans, hardly any would be financially sound through retirement without Social Security - regardless of their political beliefs.
On a different topic, two party politics suck so much its unbelievable, and yet so many Americans are stoked to go vote "Republican" or "Democrat" every election like puppets. I feel like it would just take one new politician that wants to run independently and honestly to make a huge difference, and change people's opinion.
zzzskizzzGary Johnson 2012
SkiBum.Get a real job.
SideShowBobconsidering most NSers are your username, that's hard to do