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Can you turn rental bindings into regular bindings?

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OGoriginal-gaper
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probably a silly question but i keep finding good deals on rossignol axial 2 type rental bindings with the sliding tracks and all that extra crap i don't want. now i was wondering if you can put new afd riser type plates on the toe piece which i think might work but i am not sure about the rear. i haven't seen these types of rental binding in real life but have seen pictures so cant really determine if its possible. If there are shop techs who are familiar with these bindings you may have an idea, but not sure if people have done this kind of thing with these bindings.
k++++++++++++++ for help thanks heaps.

this type of rental bindings

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May 14 2013 4:09AM
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OGoriginal-gaper
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come on botge give me smoke



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May 14 2013 6:28AM
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-Condor-
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no, you cant
May 14 2013 9:20AM
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tomPietrowski
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You can do it with some salmon rental bindings. I have. Iv Not worked with those Rossi bindings but i would guess you can do the toes no prob. As for the heels I would guess you just need new heel tracks, that's what you do for the solly ones. The Rossi rentals just use a lever for heel adjustment so if you can get the tracks you should be ok. We charged 40 for the solly parts so prob about that but it depends if Rossi sell just the tracks.
May 14 2013 11:46AM
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.squirrely.
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ive done it with whatever the rossi equivalent to the nx12 is, worked fine just have to take out the plate underneath and then remount the toe and heel seperately. not sure if id use them on a pair of real skis but they worked fine for last summer on turf and such
May 14 2013 3:24PM
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OGoriginal-gaper
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thanks for your help guys k+++++++++++++++++++ i might give it a go.
May 14 2013 5:59PM
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TheJerz
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sack up and buy some real bindings.
May 14 2013 9:29PM
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Blake.P
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You can't. I set up a pair of demos for a friend, the toe piece comes off and is normal, but the heel track is locked to the demo plate. Unless you can get a new track or find a pair of replacement heels
May 14 2013 10:08PM
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k2andcannoli
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Nope...your wrong
May 14 2013 10:26PM
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special-J
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don't fuck with bindings, just spend the little bit extra for normal ones. I don't know how people fail to understand that saving a few dollars will never be worth a knee injury. It's as if someone offered you $100 to add some risk to your knees.

those bindings are going to be shitty anyways, you may as well get some marker m10's for the same price.
May 15 2013 1:05AM
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OGoriginal-gaper
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i might win a pair of Salomon sth 12 din's on ebay but if not i might try the rental thing still. bindings and ski gear in general in Australia are usually like 2 twice the price of stuff in America and i need to save my money to get up to the snow so buying a 250$ pair of bindings isn't really an option for me as that's one weekend trip up the snow for me. thanks for more incite every one
May 15 2013 2:03AM
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LC.
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Those Rossis won't convert.
May 15 2013 3:56AM
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TheJerz
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seriously, i paid $250 for my pivots. skiing isn't cheap and i understand you may not have the means to buy sufficient gear. But don't start ghetto rigging your skis, you just gonna either fuck yourself over from an unexpected injury, or ruin your equipment.

save up and get some REAL bindings made for REAL skiing on REAL snow.

PX12's are like $120, and I'm sure there is a shop local in Australia that will have some springtime deals. Rental bindings are terrible, and used for rentals for a reason.
May 15 2013 8:53AM
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tomPietrowski
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What people don't seem to understand Is that there is no difference between rental bindings and production models apart from the tracks. If you can get new tracks they are exactly the same. If you can get the tracks cheap then save the money and get the rentals.
May 15 2013 2:32PM
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SamtheEagle
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never thought of this bump
May 16 2013 3:58AM
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OGoriginal-gaper
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probably wont go ahead since getting tracks is going to be hard for me to track down and they still might not work i will just wait and see what comes up on ebay.
May 16 2013 4:31AM
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Blake.P
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Check out backcountry or evo outlets. You can normally find really good deals (px12's for less than 100). Also keep an eye on steepandcheap. I managed to snag some sth14's for 120 there
May 16 2013 12:14PM
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OGoriginal-gaper
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ended up buying some old salomon 14 din bindings from the dump and had to mod them with a second set of salomon bindings so they would work with out massive yellow risers, ended up costing me 15$, they worked well also mounted them with a paper template which also wen't well .

only problem i had was i take the brakes of to wax the skis and didn't put them back on tight enough, so one fell of (lucky i found it) but ended up they didn't work without the brake end i rolled down the hill like that scene of hot rod but luckily was stopped buy some bushes and hit my leg pretty hard on a tree.
Jan 29 2014 6:14AM
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AJizzle
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Those aren't regular rental bindings that you have in your picture, those are system bindings that are ADR for a specific track system. Without the track, they absolutely worthless as the don't have a regular base plate, especially in the heel. If you buy them, most likely you'll never be able to use them, and you'll just have to buy new bindings anyway.
Jan 29 2014 7:56PM
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AJizzle
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^disregard random ADR in post, no idea where it came from.
Jan 29 2014 7:57PM
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milk_man
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How bout these?



http://www.evo.com/outlet/alpine-ski-bindings/salomon-sth-12-oversized-100mm-brakes.aspx#image=58840/291823/salomon-sth-12-oversized-ski-bindings-100mm-brakes-2013-silver-side.jpg
Jan 29 2014 8:45PM
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OGoriginal-gaper
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thanks but got some 14 DIN salomon 900s's and modified them to sit flat on the ski
Apr 3 2014 9:29AM
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supersquid
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idk man as soonb as you start messing with tghat stuff it could turn out bad if those bindings werent made for park and you put risers in em they could break apart or something real easy plus they wont warranty bindings youve messed with that then break there called rental bindings for a reason just my opinion
Apr 3 2014 7:49PM
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rsilvers
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He me understand why I don't want demo bindings. My ski experience is limited to 31 sessions and about 500,000 vertical feet and 280 linear miles.

The reason why I specifically sought out demo bindings was NOT because I wanted others to use my skis. I wanted to be able to experiment with binding location for myself. I have tried positions at the factory location, and 20mm forward. If I have regular bindings mounted, how will I know that they put them in my ideal location based on my weight distribution, stance, ski boot angle, etc? Imagine if your car seat was fixed to one position decided on by the car dealer and you could never really change it? Imagine if your bike stem was set by the bike shop, and you could not really change it after you rode for a while? That is what is going on in my mind.

But I see that the upside to normal bindings is:

1. Lower weight.
2. Fewer parts - maybe more reliable.
3. More natural flex on skis (does Atomic Arc solve that?)
4. Closer to ski (is this important?)

Thank you.
Dec 25 2017 8:48AM
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powpatrol
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rsilversHe me understand why I don't want demo bindings. My ski experience is limited to 31 sessions and about 500,000 vertical feet and 280 linear miles.

The reason why I specifically sought out demo bindings was NOT because I wanted others to use my skis. I wanted to be able to experiment with binding location for myself. I have tried positions at the factory location, and 20mm forward. If I have regular bindings mounted, how will I know that they put them in my ideal location based on my weight distribution, stance, ski boot angle, etc? Imagine if your car seat was fixed to one position decided on by the car dealer and you could never really change it? Imagine if your bike stem was set by the bike shop, and you could not really change it after you rode for a while? That is what is going on in my mind.

But I see that the upside to normal bindings is:

1. Lower weight.
2. Fewer parts - maybe more reliable.
3. More natural flex on skis (does Atomic Arc solve that?)
4. Closer to ski (is this important?)

Thank you.


5 year old thread my friend
Dec 25 2017 10:34AM
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