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Islam is Fundamentally Incompatible With Democracy.
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Discuss.
Muslim society has been described as 'A solid wall whose bricks support each other.' Will real democracy manage to take hold in Iraq (Or Iran, or other countries in the region), or is the religion that dominates the society too founded in social cohesiveness and not enough concerned with individuality, as something to be valued? This isn't a 'Bush' debate. It's more what you think about the muslim world itself. Insights?
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oh yeah, and i also agree with whoever said the stuff on factions... muslimanimity faction contradicts democracy.
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a real good friend of mine, whose parents where deeply muslims, learn curan for years. at last, he told me that book is all craps!
so, to the extend of what i know, islam is a religion (who said a sect? not me! hehe ...) ruling every single aspect of your life, ... as it was 1500 years ago ... mahomet was a warrior and excluded any democratic idea. following this book to the letter is ,to me, against democracy.
but we can discuss that
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dude its not all crap...i dont bag on your religion....i dont say 'jesus wasnt nailed to the cross....its bullshit it was just a look a like kinda person.' when i actually do believe he wasnt nailed to the cross....most of the shit in the bible seems like bullshit to me but i dont rag on it. be respectful of others religions
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^read me again! 'my friend who learnt curan for years said that'. not me. i do not know curan good enough to say that. even if i did you can also respect those who criticize a religion.
do i tell you that 99% of historians and teachers in religionS say that we ARE SURE JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS so that islam is ABSOLUTELY wrong on that (what's the consequence of this FACT on the whole curan?), do i say that? (yes, but no! ) ;D
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theres a whole lot of evidence pointing to the fact that jesus wasnt nailed to the cross....but anyways that is off topic....i just hink your freind is a bullshitter....he must not be a true muslim. he must be some lamo that says shit. he prolly doesnt even know arabic
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^actually, he went to islamic schools in saudi arabia or something and is able to recitate the curan entirely with no mistakes. but learning is not beleiving. when he came back, he tought islam was dumb (do not blame me for that) and started to study other religions. he believes in God, knows very well almost all religions. he doesn't think any of them is right (you will think i preech for my church but he thinks catholics are the nearer to the truth (yeah! this guy has not the truth either).).
he told me so many scary things written in the curan!
i'm really curious to know what are the fact saying jesus didn't died on the cross!!! 99, 9 % of hidstorians take it as a FACT! in france i even saw a muslim on TV saying he was a deep believer but that on this point curan was almost certainly wrong. i don't know if this fact turns curan into a fairy tale or if it doesn't affect the rest?
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well ok i understand thats your friends saying that and not you......but umm you know that cloth that they say was put on jesus's face when he was crusified i think? well that didnt date back nearly to the time of him...and theres some other shit too but i cant remember right now.....but on the disocovery channel(which is where i found this stuff) it talks about the stuff pointing to that he wasnt nailed tot he cross. and alot of stuff about bod positions ont he cross pointing to it....but i mean you believe what you wanna believe in all i dont have any problem with it...but seriously im on the contrary to what your freind says
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^cloth? the holy 'suaire' from Turin? i do not know if it's the authentic one or not, but i do not take it as a proof. the bible is ot a proof it was gathering texts hundreds years after Jesus died. But it's generally recognized as a fact, other texts from the same period talks about a guy comin from nazareth who was killed by jews and romans and so on ... but really, if i PROOVE you Jesus died on the Cross, what's the impact on your religion?
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Uh, try Koran or Quran, there 'genius.'
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^maybe they spell the Quarn differently in french
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^I still somehow doubt they spell it 'Quarn'...
Ignore me, I'm rather irritated that this has turned into a petty, pointless squabble between an awe-inspiring idiot and bristolrider, who looks like a Rhodes scholar by comparison.
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dude im just trying to make a point that i dont criticize your religion so why do people do it to mine on here? religion i think isnt all the reason behind why the middleeast isnt working out...but i guess we cant talk punkrider because jd doesnt like to here us retards talk...you know we arent 'intelligent'enough to have a conversation
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fuck it
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yea whatever im done i hate these threads
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