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my favorite skis!! without a doubt the most versitile ski i have ever been on. shreds all conditions. i ski 177's mounted with dukes at +3cm from traditional. im 5'4'' 165lbs type 3 skier. i ski everything but park. they really do ski well everywhere. they are fairly soft, but really stable, and have an enourmous amount of pop coming out of the turn. they have a very versitile turn shape to them, and they are comfotable at any speed. they will handle soft snow pretty well. the rocker on it is long, but doesnt have a ton of rise, and they handle hardpack likea dream.