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Opting out of TSA scanners

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theabortionator
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Anybody else opt out of those things or plan on doing so the next time you fly? Just curious to what other nsers feel on the subject.
Dec 12 2012 6:23PM
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gusestomp
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Those new scanners are pretty freaking sweet.. but I see/have no problem with going through them
Dec 12 2012 6:24PM
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theabortionator
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Luckily other times I had flown they hadn't gotten them in everywhere and they weren't always using them some places.

I opt out of that shit. They made a huge deal about it. Fuck em. They also got butt hurt and crushed my posted but whatever.


How the fuck does walking through that thing make our country safer? Lol it doesn't.

And for anyone who somehow doesn't know I mean these things Click for larger image
Dec 12 2012 6:24PM
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K-Dot.
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I'm comfortable with my 2.5 inch dick if thats what you're asking.
Dec 12 2012 6:27PM
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-emile-
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ok you made your point tsa is useless and everyone should board a flight no matter what they're carrying !
Dec 12 2012 6:28PM
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BrewskiJr
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Wait.. You can opt out of that? What do you have to do in its stead?
Dec 12 2012 6:30PM
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DINGWALL
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yeah liek what does that big metal mashine even do lol
Dec 12 2012 6:31PM
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Gods_Father
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lol what about cancer?
Dec 12 2012 6:31PM
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CrotchKiller
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"How the fuck does walking through that thing make our country safer? Lol it doesn't. "

right..........
Dec 12 2012 6:33PM
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grown-ninja
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Opt out everytime i fly, get a huge additude from everyone in tsa they def note when you do it as I've been the randomly searched passenger the last 3 times I've flown...on a different note I stuck my gfs hand down my pants to try and achive an errection before I was patted down to make it incrediable aquward, couldnt get it up with the pressuse on me
Dec 12 2012 6:34PM
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fujarome
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A nice thorough pat down.

Also you get less radiation from going through that thing than you do from the flight itself.
Dec 12 2012 6:34PM
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Gods_Father
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Man Takes Viagra, Wears Sweatpants for TSA Pat Down
[IMG]realnewsreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/BarneyFrankTSA-300x232.jpg[/IMG]

The Washington Fancy

NASHVILLE INT’L AIRPORT — A Wyoming man walked through a TSA checkpoint with a raging erection on Tuesday, daring TSA officers and even fellow passengers to give him an invasive pat down.

“I’m next,” Warren Kelvin, 34, screamed as he pushed to the front of the security line. According to TSA officials, Kelvin had ingested two Viagra and wore sweatpants without boxers for his Southwest flight from Nashville to Phoenix.

“I thought he was carrying a baton in his pants,” said Amanda Watershed, second shift supervisor of the A Terminal at Nashville International Airport. “Nope… That was his penis.”

Even though TSA officials allowed Kelvin to initially pass through security without the controversial pat down, the passenger on more than one occasion got back in line until he felt that he had been thoroughly inspected. Kelvin finally got the invasive pat down by 38-year-old officer Duncan Allbright after 80 minutes and four trips through security.

“Even after we let him pass through he kept walking out of the terminal and getting back in line,” said Watershed. “Finally, Duncan had to bite the bullet for everyone and do a thorough screening of him in a private [security] room.”

Dec 12 2012 6:38PM
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Gods_Father
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ahhhhh so then it is good for us
Dec 12 2012 6:39PM
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theabortionator
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Oh go fuck yourself. Security did fine before them. But please tell me more how some tsa workers groping children and looking at dicks has made us safer?

Also with that argument why stop there? why not put them at every courthouse, hospital, concert, malls.

I mean it will probably happen eventually but why not do it now since it's in the efforts of safety.

How about just locking the cockpit door. If you can't get into the cockpit you have no way to kill more than a few hundred people and that's if you're somehow able to pick them off one by one without them kicking your ass and killing you. Or if you managed to get a bomb onto the plane maybe you could land it on something and take out a few more people but not that many. You could do just as much damage at another venue.


This bullshit hasn't made us any safer. It's completely unnecessary. Sorry your fear of a scary brown middle eastern man makes you feel like personal liberties are worthless.


Also, I don't give a fuck who sees my dick. I opt out because i think it's fucked.
Dec 12 2012 6:40PM
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fujarome
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If you're that paranoid about getting cancer from radiation I wouldn't recommend leaving your house, let alone flying.
Dec 12 2012 6:41PM
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DINGWALL
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Dec 12 2012 6:44PM
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ryano
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i fly quite frequently.. averaging probably 2 round trip flights a month. and i really dont care about the x ray machines.

when you pay for a flight, you pretty much sign your life away and all your rights anyways.

most peoples concerns are health issues and privacy.

for me, if some one really wants to stare at my x ray'd dick, go for it. but they've supposedly have made it so the machine blurs out that area.

as for the health issues, the radiation that you get from it by passing through is not that big of a deal. no one really flies that much to be affected by it.

but the real problem is the TSA workers themselves. they should be more worried and angry about it. because they stand there all day with no shield, no protection or anything. they are the ones that are going to be affected by this.

source: i'm close friends with several nurses and ER doctors.
Dec 12 2012 6:44PM
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Gods_Father
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then you admit that it is not good for us?

Dec 12 2012 6:46PM
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ryano
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also, since i fly frequently, i dont like spending 2 hours or more at the airport before my flight just for sake of being able to opt out of a scanner.

i get there 45 minutes before, and usually get through everything in 20 minutes. sometimes less if i'm not checking luggage.
Dec 12 2012 6:46PM
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p-fo
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Master level trolling.
Dec 12 2012 6:46PM
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percs
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Read the article and lost.
Dec 12 2012 6:47PM
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.AR6rider.
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Hahahaha good one.


Oh, wait, you were serious?
Dec 12 2012 6:47PM
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theabortionator
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They pat you down. It was sort of like the long version of getting patted down going through security going into a venue. Or actually on par with some of the house of blues and the mann center in philly the only time I went.


But they try and guilt trip you. It's going to take a while, I'm like " I don't care".


You just stand on the side and wait. They'll sometimes be dicks about it then eventually they bring you over pat you down and then you go on like normal.
Dec 12 2012 6:48PM
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DINGWALL
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it's obviously not good for you. doesn't mean it's killing you either.
here is a list of things that will give you cancer:
Acetaldehyde, acrylamide, acrylonitril, abortion, agent orange, alar, alcohol, air pollution, aldrin, alfatoxin, arsenic, arsine, asbestos, asphalt fumes, atrazine, AZT, baby food, barbequed meat, benzene, benzidine, benzopyrene, beryllium, beta-carotene, betel nuts, birth control pills, bottled water, bracken, bread, breasts, brooms, bus stations, calcium channel blockers, cadmium, candles, captan, carbon black, carbon tetrachloride, careers for women, casual sex, car fumes, celery, charred foods, cooked foods, chewing gum, Chinese food, Chinese herbal supplements, chips, chloramphenicol, chlordane, chlorinated camphene, chlorinated water, chlorodiphenyl, chloroform, cholesterol, low cholesterol, chromium, coal tar, coffee, coke ovens, crackers, creosote, cyclamates, dairy products, deodorants, depleted uranium, depression, dichloryacetylene, DDT, dieldrin, diesel exhaust, diet soda, dimethyl sulphate, dinitrotouluene, dioxin, dioxane, epichlorhydrin, ethyle acrilate, ethylene, ethilene dibromide, ethnic beliefs,ethylene dichloride, Ex-Lax, fat, fluoridation, flying, formaldehyde, free radicals, french fries, fruit, gasoline, genes, gingerbread, global warming, gluteraldehyde, granite, grilled meat, Gulf war, hair dyes, hamburgers, heliobacter pylori, hepatitis B virus, hexachlorbutadiene, hexachlorethane, high bone mass, hot tea, HPMA, HRT, hydrazine, hydrogen peroxide, incense, infertility, jewellery, Kepone, kissing, lack of exercise, laxatives, lead, left handedness, Lindane, Listerine, low fibre diet, magnetic fields, malonaldehyde, mammograms, manganese, marijuana, methyl bromide, methylene chloride, menopause, microwave ovens, milk hormones, mixed spices, mobile phones, MTBE, nickel, night lighting, night shifts, nitrates, not breast feeding, not having a twin, nuclear power plants, Nutrasweet, obesity, oestrogen, olestra, olive oil, orange juice, oxygenated gasoline, oyster sauce, ozone, ozone depletion, passive smoking, PCBs, peanuts, pesticides, pet birds, plastic IV bags, polio vaccine, potato crisps (chips), power lines, proteins, Prozac, PVC, radio masts, radon, railway sleepers, red meat, Roundup, saccharin, salt, sausage, selenium, semiconductor plants, shellfish, sick buildings, soy sauce, stress, strontium, styrene, sulphuric acid, sun beds, sunlight, sunscreen, talc, tetrachloroethylene, testosterone, tight bras, toast, toasters, tobacco, tooth fillings, toothpaste (with fluoride or bleach), train stations, trichloroethylene, under-arm shaving, unvented stoves, uranium, UV radiation, Vatican radio masts, vegetables, vinyl bromide, vinyl chloride, vinyl fluoride, vinyl toys, vitamins, vitreous fibres, wallpaper, weedkiller (2-4 D), welding fumes, well water, weight gain, winter, wood dust, work, x-rays.

as long as you never touch these you will be all good.
Dec 12 2012 6:49PM
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fujarome
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I'm saying that it's such a trivially small amount that it doesn't matter.

I think the scanners are great. I put my arms up, and 2 seconds later I'm through.

I'm willing to bet most of the people arguing about this probably dont even remember flying pre 2001
Dec 12 2012 6:49PM
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ThisAngelicRage
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personally i don't think the benefit of the added security is enough to make it worth the risks involved. i don't think they're "bad." obviously no one wants less safety, but i know i'm not going to shoot up my jet blue flight so why expose myself at all? those little doses of radiation add up, so i will definitely continue to opt out like i have the last two times i flew. the cosmic rays you are exposed to in flight are unavoidable, same with if you need an xray because you busted your leg. but to me choosing to go through a full body scanner would be like choosing lead paint, using a tanning bed etc. no thanks.
Dec 12 2012 6:51PM
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daannnnieel
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A bomb will go through a door.
Dec 12 2012 6:57PM
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theabortionator
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Lock the cockpit door = problem solved.

Also it's not like that was an incredibly common thing. Just saying. Security did a pretty damn good job. Shit just doesn't happen on planes, it really doesn't. Very rarely. You have a much better chance getting into trouble doing just about anything else in your normal day.
Dec 12 2012 6:58PM
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Gods_Father
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lol as long as it doesn't kill you then it's fine? even if you acknowledge that it's not good for you? good to know....

anyone like you is also completely fine with their public water being dosed too lol.

Dec 12 2012 6:58PM
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theabortionator
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So they're going to smuggle a bomb through the normal security which wasn't really that much easier before. Just so they can blow up the door, without blowing up anything else to cause the plane to crash and make sure that they're able to do all that in a total surprise attack so the pilots aren't ready at all and they can take over the flight and crash it into something?


Call me dangerous but I'll take my chances.
Dec 12 2012 7:00PM
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daannnnieel
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the fact that you're basing your entire argument off of this is insane. Locking a cockpit door really doesn't do much in the long run, getting through a locked door really isn't that hard.
Dec 12 2012 7:02PM
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daannnnieel
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You took what I said faaar to literal.
Dec 12 2012 7:03PM
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fujarome
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Not to mention the fact that the purpose of security isn't entirely to protect the plane itself, but also the people on board.
Dec 12 2012 7:04PM
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DINGWALL
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well if you're so afraid of radiation then why the fuck are you even flying in the first place? it's already been said that you are exposed to more during the flight than going through one of those machines, so if you're that worried about it the simple solution would be to not fly at all.

and no I'm not concerned about fluoride in my water you conspiracist fuck.
Dec 12 2012 7:05PM
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Round-Four
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this is a trolling style from like 2 years ago. tsa scanners? really?
Dec 12 2012 7:05PM
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theabortionator
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You have all the money to build whatever you want, make all kinds of crazy machines but they can't create a door capable of staying locked for a flight? Doubt it. Would be far to easy.
Dec 12 2012 7:08PM
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DINGWALL
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yeah neither is cancer from TSA scanners.

and if you think locking the cockpit door is going to stop trained terrorists then you don't know anything about terrorists or cockpit doors.

and your argument is invalid anyways as you're implying that the pilot and copilot are the only ones whose lives are important. Security's objective is to make sure no one gets killed.
Dec 12 2012 7:09PM
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Gods_Father
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how can you even claim it keeps your country safe if numerous people have completed the process and boarded planes with weapons or even without a passport/ticket since the introduction of tsa? there have been over 25,000 security breaches since lol. wat?

why does the tsa have to fire so many employees for petty crimes such as theft of luggage if they keep you so safe?

Dec 12 2012 7:10PM
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theabortionator
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But you really can't fir THAT many people into a plane, hence my point of why not put them at every concert, sporting event, courthouse, mall.


Seriously, put them at every mall, then we can't have a shooting like what happened. It's really simple logic. WHo's with me?
Dec 12 2012 7:13PM
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Gods_Father
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bahahahaha

yeah, the effects of fluoride on the human body is a conspiracy lol have a nice day.

Dec 12 2012 7:13PM
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Dustin.
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Obviously radiation is not ideal, that's not a valuable discussion point. But the dose rate from those machines is negligible even if you are a TSA agent, especially considering there are other more harmful devices we are exposed to every day that we aren't remotely concerned about.
Dec 12 2012 7:14PM
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Dustin.
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After the research I did in Environmental Engineering, I'd suggest you should stop drinking public water if you are honestly concerned about the tiny doses of radiation from these machines. Seriously people, you are complaining about a squirt gun while sitting in a pool.
Dec 12 2012 7:21PM
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theabortionator
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Oh, so I just don't understand how it's good for me. Great. I hope you can go on to tell me everything else that's good for me. Tell me how the patriot act is good for me, tell me how the wars we randomly wage are keeping me safer.

I'm all ears and would LOVE to hear the truth from somebody who's much more capable of "comprehending the variables that were taken into consideration."

I'm pretty the sure the TSA was an addition after sept 11, could be wrong not really relevant to you point or mine anyway.
Dec 12 2012 7:29PM
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Gods_Father
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stop using public water lol? why not stop dosing public water? did your research in environmental engineering teach you about the effects of fluoride/other chemicals on the human body?

Dec 12 2012 7:31PM
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TropicStorm
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My Dad works for the airport and wants my whole family to opt out when every we fly.
Dec 12 2012 7:33PM
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DINGWALL
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whatever research he did was definitely more than your grimey ass has done you fucking hippy.
Dec 12 2012 7:33PM
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Seany.n
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if people are looking for a place to shoot/blowup people for no reason, they wouldn't pick a fucking plane. Everyone on the plane is almost always safe, unless the cockpit is taken over. The only reason people would want to have weapons on the plane is to take over control of the plane
Dec 12 2012 7:35PM
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theabortionator
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Also it's great when you spend time in an airport and all you hear is that fucking loop every 5 minutes.


"Your assistance is requested, please keep all personal items with you at all times and call 911 to report any
suspicious activity" (or something like that. There are a couple different ones)

They don't scare me. The way they make it sound there's a ton of shit going down at airports everyday. It's far more dangerous to walk across the mall parking lot this time of year.

At least the news stopped airing those "terror alert is purple today= you gonna die bitch" warnings every day. That shit was annoying. Amazing what will get people scared though.
Dec 12 2012 7:36PM
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fujarome
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Oh you're completely right. Thats why there has never been an incident on board an aircraft apart from 9/11.

The concept of using the plane itself as a weapon was almost unheard of until september 2001.
Dec 12 2012 7:38PM
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Gods_Father
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