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Marker Heel pieces failing torque test?

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Ehh...
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I work in a shop and one thing i've noticed over the years is that maker's heel pieces have been wearing out very quickly. for example, I was testing the binding today with a torque wrench and we were at an 8 din and we did the release check and they were grossly under the in use range. We ended up have to jack it up to nine and half to get to finally be in range. Anyone else seeing this happen with marker bindings? I've seen this happen more and more recently with newer bindings and the ones we tested today were just last year's griffons.
Dec 11 2012 12:25AM
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NoSkillsCrew
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Couple questions:

are these the rental track bindings? Or are they customer bindings? also are you using a hand tester or one of them fancy wintersteiger machines?
Dec 11 2012 9:55AM
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.RYAN66
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I've never failed a marker heel piece. I have failed some old really old toe pieces. Usually marker bindings pass with flying colors.
Dec 11 2012 10:22AM
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We use a hand tester where we put them in the boot and attach a torque wrench and check the toe release and heel release. The toe piece works fine, but it just seems like the heel piece is having issues releaseing.


And as for the type of binding this was a marker Griffion that tested yesterday that failed but in the past it had been a range of bindings I mean not evnough to have a serious issue to call up marker but its something i've noticed over a period of time hand testing the in use range.
Dec 11 2012 11:56AM
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CDdesign
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ive had WAY more Rossi/look bindings do that... 

never any Head/tyrolia  very very very few salomon bindings that dont pass.. like 1/100
Dec 11 2012 1:23PM
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I.B
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Didn't read thread, but marker bindings are like knifes, and when you fall it's like a knife stabbing your asshole.
Dec 11 2012 3:55PM
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head/tyrolia/ 4frnt all pass without a doubt whenever I test them it just seems like maybe the ones that are coming through our shop are failing. And its not like idenfible bindings either its like stuff within the last year or two. Its weird.
Dec 11 2012 4:49PM
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AJizzle
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I have seen a bunch of markers not pass, but its normally the kids binding toe pieces, haven't had any considerable problems with the griffons. The biometric toe pieces on the other hand are a different story.
Dec 12 2012 12:40AM
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NoSkillsCrew
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I would say the only thing I could think of is if they keep the heel spring at tension while storing it for the post season it could range low and force a "recalibration" of the heel. I.E. setting the release value higher until it tests within the in use range. Also if there was a problem with the mount the ramp height might be off on the heel (that is real unlikely).

Lastly hand torque tests are generally pretty sketchy as each tester can get substantially different results depending on how the test is done.

In my experience only squire and jr. toe pieces seem to go in the marker line most of their bindings pass when I have had to test them.

hope that helps.
Dec 12 2012 1:22AM
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I figured it might end up being something like a recalibration of our torque wrench or user error. I mean we do a pretty good at our shop to be consistent and not have the human error in things but even still there is only so much you can prevent. But I was just wondering if this was just something we were noticing in our shop only or across the board.
Dec 12 2012 1:29AM
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