What bindings for my Armada Magic Js?

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I've got them. I guess my point was that no 190cm ski with a 127mm waist is 'light'. For their size, maybe.

Anybody else have any thoughts? Any reason not to go with the FKS?

Nov 27 2012 6:56PM

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I put FKS on all my skis, so that's my vote. Or STH 14 Driver/16

Nov 27 2012 7:00PM

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FKS is a beast binding... Only thing markers have on them is you can change the boot size if you happen to need a bigger boot.

Nov 27 2012 9:10PM

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Peak 15

Nov 27 2012 10:51PM

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Why?

Nov 27 2012 11:05PM

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The tyrolia peak 15/18 is a super bomber binding, as is the sth and fks. With the sth driver toe you'll have to readjust the toe wings frequently as they do have a tendency to come loose. As for the weight of fks, they're a LITTLE bit heavier than the alternatives, but what you give up in weight you make up in absolute bomberness. The only binding that's debatably more bombproof than fks 180s is salomon 916s and even then it's a toss up and 916s are much heavier. Fks have the slight drawbacks of a lessened Range of heel adjustability in case you change BSLs, a slightly annoying entry and (voluntary) release, and the difficulty of sourcing broken brakes when you break a pair. All in all, if you can deal with these quirks, you'll be rewarded with an indestructible binding with the best elasticity and retention in the game and a super short, unintrusive mounting pattern. Your call.

Nov 28 2012 1:36AM

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FKS

Nov 28 2012 1:44AM

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Thanks for the replies. +K all around.

One more bump for this. Anybody else have any thoughts?

At this point really stuck between FKS185, STH16, and Peak15.

Nov 28 2012 6:09PM

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Go with the FKS.

Nov 28 2012 8:56PM

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are you even going to din into those bindings?

whats your height weight and BSL.

Nov 28 2012 9:15PM

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go FKS/Pivot. Down side is they can be a bitch to put back on if you fall and eject.

Nov 28 2012 9:30PM

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6'1''
185lbs
336 BSL (how does this affect which binding to get?)

Running around a 14 DIN.

Nov 28 2012 11:03PM

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Generally the smaller the bsl, the higher the din because boots with a small bsl have more leverage on bindings and require less rotational force to get out of. Bigger bsl=slightly lower din setting.

Nov 28 2012 11:15PM

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Interesting - thanks.

Nov 28 2012 11:22PM

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Is this really true? I've heard that in pow it can be a pain but others have said this is ridiculous.

Nov 28 2012 11:23PM

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people who dont buy fks based on this IMO are a bit silly, i've had trouble getting them on multiple times but its not even close being a reason that would turn me away from this binding

Nov 28 2012 11:26PM

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wow that is 6 over your recommended setting as a type 3 skier. and some shops will not mount a binding if you do not din into it. so for example your recommended setting is 8. the sth 16 start at 9.

and running a 14 is not safe.

Nov 29 2012 7:23AM

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That whole Type III skier thing has got to go...

* 'ski aggressively'
* normally ski at high speeds
* prefer steeper and more challenging terrain'

Really needs to be expanded for the skiing people are doing now. It's not just steep groomers and moguls inbounds anymore.

If I went at an 8, I'd be pre-releasing every run. (unless I stomped everything perfectly, but I'm not Hoji)

Nov 29 2012 10:20AM

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Din setting is something that people should choose starting with the reccommended and tweaking from there. There are a lot of small guys who ski way too hard for the reccommended setting and would eject all the time if they didn't set it higher. It's a personal choice for sure.

Nov 29 2012 12:50PM

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^true dat.

One of my fks brakes got royally bent because it decided to release on a switch landing because I was lightly leaning forward.......so brake went down while switch....with my full weight on the ski. Luckily was able to mend it, then proceeded to turn my din (especially on the heel) up a smidge). I don't think the DIN specifications account for anything park related.

Nov 29 2012 12:55PM

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You really don't need a 14 DIN, that's so high for 336mm BSL. Even if you're sending 80 footers that's really high.

Nov 29 2012 7:45PM

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I agree that it needs some modification, but I highly doubt you need a din of 14. if you skied that hard you wouldnt be asking ns for bindings a sponsor would be giving them to you.

Nov 29 2012 10:37PM

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sth 16: able buy brakes if they break, lightweight, durable, adjustable, great release, cheaper than fks and tyrolia.

Nov 29 2012 10:56PM

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FKS they are so durable and so nice. They look pretty sick too, especially if you have the orange ones with the 2012s. Not sure what year you have

Nov 30 2012 2:04AM

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Regardless, I'm going to get either the STH 16 or FKS 18 (I fall in the usable range and it's just that much more bomber than the 14)

The question now is which one? STH 16 or FKS 18?

Nov 30 2012 4:11PM

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If you're buying new, sth 16, used go fks. Save money for lift tickets.

Dec 1 2012 1:50AM

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I'd suggest going used. Minty FKS 15/18 can be found for under $200. STH16/s916 can be found even cheaper.

They're both bomber good bindings, but FKS are going to be lighter, but it's easier to get wide brakes/replace brakes if they break.

If you are really skiing around a DIN of 14, look into the 920 as well. There's a few pairs on TGR for sale for $100 right now.

Dec 1 2012 11:58AM

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I'm with you on that.

I'm not financially blessed enough or have not stopped growing enough (I'm 16) so i rent skis. The type 3 skier thing is the worst in the rental situation because its mostly about liability(or so i believe). The problem is that all of those aspects of the so called "type 3" skier is that they are all subjective. Skiing aggressively, fast, and steep can be relative to most noobs. When I was getting my skis this season some father and his 12 year old son came in to the shop looking for patio furniture (Christy Sports) they had just moved to CO from Mississippi and had skied once or twice over spring break for the past 2 years and the dad wanted to get season rents. The dad was talking up about how he and his son were super duper hardcore skiers and had even done some black runs so they decided that they were definitely type 3 skiers. The dad even went as far as lying about his weight (made himself heavier, I could tell because he was definitely not what he said he was). So the poor tech didn't catch his bluff, and continued with getting him set up for "type 3" skis, boots, and bindings (or binders as he called them). I coincidentally went into the shop for my free tune ups (probably one of the only pluses for renting) and coincidentally they were also there. The dad had a knee brace on and was bitching about how the "binders" were broken and wouldn't come off of his feet when he fell, so he hurt his knee in some way. The tech was trying so hard not to smirk when the dad told the story of how he was "zooming down" Silverspoon (one of keystone's perfectly groomed greens) when he hit a sheet of pure ice (this doesn't really happen in CO and I was skiing A-basin the same day, and the day before was pow) and fell, caught an edge and twisted his knee.

Another related story, when i was getting my skis, that day there were also two little girls who came in and said they were type 1 skiers because they said weren't very good, but then one of them asked their dad if because they went in the "jump park" that it make them type 3.

And the last story is i was doing nose presses and tail presses in the lift line and I double ejected in a nose press, it was so embarrassing. I'm a light guy, but i ski very aggressively and butter, nollie, and jump of of everything on a run... my dins are at 4 and in the rental agreement it says i'm not allowed to change them

Dec 1 2012 8:47PM

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