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15 states file petitions to secede from the Union

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InFlames
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http://www.examiner.com/article/15-states-including-texas-have-filed-a-petition-to-secede-from-the-united-states-1

As of Saturday November 10, 2012, 15 States have petitioned the Obama Administration for withdrawal from the United States of America in order to create its own government.

States following this action include: Louisiana, Texas, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon and New York. These States have requested that the Obama Administration grant a peaceful withdrawal from the United States.

These citizen generated petitions were filed just days after the 2012 Presidential election.

Louisiana was the first State to file a petition a day after the election by a Michael E. from Slidell, Louisiana. Texas was the next State to follow by a Micah H. from Arlington, Texas.

The government allows one month from the day the petition is submitted to obtain 25,000 signatures in order for the Obama administration to consider the request.

The Texas petition reads as follows:

The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.

As of 12:46 am, Sunday, signatures obtained by Louisiana, 7,358; Texas, 3,771; Florida, 636; Georgia, 475; Alabama, 834; North Carolina, 792; Kentucky, 467; Mississippi, 475; Indiana, 449; North Dakota, 162; Montana, 440; Colorado, 324; Oregon, 328; New Jersey, 301 and New York, 169. Many more States are expected to follow.

A petition is not searchable at WhiteHouse.gov until 150 signatures have been obtained. It is the originator's responsibility to obtain these signatures.

The Texas petition can be reviewed and/or signed by clicking here.
Nov 11 2012 9:48PM
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Malcolm
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hahaha signed
Nov 12 2012 12:47AM
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Dr.Gonzo
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you sir need to go into politics, i feel like they would get so much more done with a belly full of dunkaroos.

Also petition is dildos, angry republicans are angry.
Nov 12 2012 12:54AM
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InFlames
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I know for damn sure the Marines don't support a tea-sipping wine-swilling communist dicksuck like Hussein Obama.
Nov 12 2012 12:54AM
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Aidan-G
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and this is where our (somewhat) intelligent discussion ends
Nov 12 2012 1:04AM
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InFlames
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On the real, the Military wouldn't support Obama. For instance, Ron Paul received more donations from active military members in the primaries than all the other candidates combined(Obama, Romney.

http://www.ronpaul.com/images/ronpaul-military2.gif
Nov 12 2012 1:10AM
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fujarome
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it was also only a part of the legion that actually tried to.


Biggest flaw in a branch of the military leaving is that militaries run on money. Fighting against the source of your supplies and money is never a good battle.


And these days, despite all the shit they get, the Air Force or Navy could effectively wipe out the planet in a matter of minutes.

So in essence, both the Army and the Marines could turn against the government, and wouldn't stand a chance unless they were able to overrun every command center, ship, submarine and AF base faster than someone can press a button.
Nov 12 2012 1:13AM
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SamMcChesney
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this is too good haha
Nov 12 2012 1:16AM
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Aidan-G
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And you think ron paul would support secession from the US?
Nov 12 2012 1:20AM
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InFlames
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Maybe? Maybe not idk, the reason for it being is that the United States was initially envisioned as a confederation, and Ron Paul is suuuch a supporter of State Rights that I could see him supporting Texas seceeding from the Union or something.
Nov 12 2012 1:30AM
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fujarome
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thats why they ditched the articles of confederation...it was clearly working far too well.
Nov 12 2012 1:32AM
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Aidan-G
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I could see that but at the same time I have a hard time seeing someone who has devoted their entire career to serving the united states backing secession. The only way I can think to describe it is just flat out unpatriotic
Nov 12 2012 1:34AM
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Aidan-G
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Being the huge nerd and big fan of history (especially american history) that I am I lost pretty hard at this
Nov 12 2012 1:36AM
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fujarome
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that's why I became a legitimate historian...simply so I could make outlandish jokes.


I was actually forced to leave the room during the presidential debates because no one else was enjoying my references to elections from the 50s and 60s.
Nov 12 2012 1:37AM
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InFlames
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You know what else is unpatriotic? The NDAA. :)
Nov 12 2012 1:38AM
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Aidan-G
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I make jokes like that all the time but only one of my friends ever get them
Nov 12 2012 1:40AM
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InFlames
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Irrelevant, I know what you're saying though. You've got me on his one. I admit defeat. Though I do stand with Tom Woods in my opinion on the articles of confederation.
Nov 12 2012 1:40AM
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Aidan-G
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Wait what? The National Defense Authorization Act is unpatriotic?
Nov 12 2012 1:42AM
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RubberSoul
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this is my favorite part
Nov 12 2012 1:43AM
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InFlames
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The one for this fiscal year, yes.


Tramples all up on da 4th amendment n shiiit.
Nov 12 2012 1:44AM
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Aidan-G
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I don't really think of it in a right or wrong sort of way. I engage in most of these discussions hoping to learn something and or teach something. Whether it be learning a fact or just how another person views a situation
Nov 12 2012 1:45AM
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Aidan-G
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What does this years budget say that infringes upon the rights of unreasonable search and seizure?
Nov 12 2012 1:46AM
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Aidan-G
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Nevermind. I found what you're talking about and that is a something I wholeheartedly oppose
Nov 12 2012 1:48AM
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Jblz
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i am so high
Nov 12 2012 1:49AM
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InFlames
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Yes. Unconstitutional, and consequently unpatriotic. :)
Nov 12 2012 1:50AM
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Aidan-G
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Well section 1033 and 1031 are
Nov 12 2012 1:51AM
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InFlames
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I thought it was 1021? whatever though, I'm glad I've come to agreeance with you on this!
Nov 12 2012 1:58AM
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punkrock32
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Is liberal the word you're looking for? I'm not surprised at all that Texas and Louisiana wants out.
Nov 12 2012 2:03AM
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Anathema
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wat
Nov 12 2012 2:09AM
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deleted5
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Yeah they're totally only 26,000 people who live in tx.
Nov 12 2012 2:28AM
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Alex_G
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aka the new oil capital of the US
Nov 12 2012 2:39AM
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CrotchKiller
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lol ya totally.
Nov 12 2012 2:48AM
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dodgey
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thank you. I applaud you sir and wish more people had this view point. I feel like this is the view of the majority of republicans and everyone should stop listening to the crazy fucks on the extremes of both sides
Nov 12 2012 3:37AM
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mgenova
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This is the standard policy of the whitehouse.gov petition site. And it's not that they will "consider the request" they just have to respond to the petition. So basically this is just a bunch of stupid angry people getting nowhere.



Taken from the petitions.whitehouse.gov terms of participation:

"To cross the second threshold and require a response, a petition must reach 25,000 signatures within 30 days."

Nov 12 2012 4:23AM
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James7
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this sounds like the beginning of the civil war all over again and it probably won't get anything done.
Nov 12 2012 6:37AM
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FuckAllOfYou
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This is exactly what i was thinking, why should DC even think about this horse shit before a state has at least half of the population signing?
Nov 12 2012 8:20AM
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MLB
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The formal military itself does not choose who it supports. The people choose a commander, and the military follows. It's not gray......its fucking black or white. Barrack Obama wins...... then the military obeys his orders.

Ps......... the military not equal, homosexuals openly allowed to serve. Sounds like liberal ideal to me.
Nov 12 2012 8:59AM
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CrotchKiller
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dear god
Nov 12 2012 11:38AM
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Mr.Sloth
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I think he's trolling...
Nov 12 2012 11:43AM
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Bread_Fish
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This is complete bullshit and misleading. It was individuals that signed the petition, also 5 states out of the 15 went for Obama! Why the hell would they want to secede when they voted for Obama's administration. You are an idiot.
Nov 12 2012 11:47AM
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CrotchKiller
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I think you're right. It just disturbs me because we all know that their are people who legitimately share those views
Nov 12 2012 11:52AM
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theabortionator
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How is seceding from the union going to help them when 90% of the voters in our country seem to be just a little bit retarded.


They voted for the people in the government. They're the ones that listen to the major news groups and think they're getting factual non biased information. I'm guessing this one is leaning toward the republicans and fox news, but regardless, both sides are fucking stupid.


It would be different if were states that were filled with people who were actually somewhat intelligent, trying to vote their country to a better place, and failing because of all the other idiots.


Idk. Many of are problems would be resolved if people in this country weren't so fucking stupid. Bitch and moan about something going on in the government, vote for somebody who will do the same things. Blindly listen to whatever the news tells you about a candidate.

Was interesting to watch especially with romney, how the news propaganda changed people over time. Originally romney was too much like obama for many, had a lot of bad qualities, but people though he had a chance of beating obama, By the end it seemed like some of those people had gone for, don't really like him but he's better than obama, to romney is the fucking man and I love everything he says because the man on the news told me too.


Maybe one day 15 states will vow to secede from the bonds of ignorance. That would be much more exciting.
Nov 12 2012 12:01PM
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XtRemE11
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if texas seceded, id move there, they would make such a cool fucking country.
Nov 12 2012 12:17PM
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BootySpunk.
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Exactly. People are the problem. Half the people in this country are so set in their thoughts and political views that not even the most blatant facts will change their mind.

People are just fine with being ignorant which is really the downfall of this country.
Nov 12 2012 12:23PM
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Huck_Norris
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That is freakin' hilarious. 

350 million people in this country and you think that when 20k want to seceede, it's news? 

Get real.  This is a joke, those people are retards and this is not news.  The same 20k people hated us last year, and will next year.  This is not news. 

Nov 12 2012 12:24PM
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volvotom
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All that 25k signatures means is that the administration "has" to respond. Their response could be "HAHAAHHAHAHA" and would fulfill, what I am pretty sure is their own rule.

http://gawker.com/5959719/we-the-people-petitions-filed-in-nineteen-states-seeking-permission-to-secede-from-the-union?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Nov 12 2012 1:00PM
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manutdsaol
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Bahahahahaha so they are saying that because 13,000 people out of the 25,674,681 citizens of Texas want to succeed from the union, they actually will? Laughable.
Nov 12 2012 1:14PM
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TijmenDal
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Sounds like the American Civil war all over again.

Fucking retards.
Nov 12 2012 1:30PM
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uosdwiSrjewoH
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this would not be a long civil war.

other thoughts, theabortionator was spot on about ignorance, it's a scary fact.

and i got an immense amount of enjoyment from the guy saying that the army would support the side that secedes
Nov 12 2012 1:33PM
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Brock.
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THEY MAD
Nov 12 2012 1:48PM
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InFlames
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I said I didn't know, but hey whatever works.

I don't think people realize how bad big government is, how easily freedoms can be trampled upon. Voting for Obama, was essentially voting for a 4th term for Bush. They're literally that similar. Both with an authoritarian streak and an absolute lack of knowledge regarding the economy.


This election was a choice between big government and bigger government, unfortunately Americans chose bigger government. I'll say this much though, welfare nations have generally devolved to authoritarian states as a means to coerce the population into submission.
Nov 12 2012 2:09PM
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