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If Obama was white, how do you think this election would be different?

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Phil-X-
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This isn't meant to be a racist kinda thing or anything like that,

Today I heard someone talking about this and I thought it was pretty interesting-
If Obama wasn't half black, but 100% white. But he would run his entire campaign the same way as normal obama did:

What would be different? Would it change the outcome?








Lets try and keep this civil and not start a shit storm. Just a nice discussion.
Nov 6 2012 1:53AM
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Poop_nugget
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we have to remember that obama is white too, he's just 9 out of 10 times referred to being black
Nov 6 2012 6:35PM
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Bill.Nye
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No.
Nov 6 2012 6:54PM
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Funkadelic
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If he was white he wouldn't have been elected in the democratic primary because of his lack of experience. I'm not saying he would never become president, but he wouldn't be president now. Hillary would have won the nomination, and a morbidly obese cow could have beaten McCain in the last election.
Nov 6 2012 7:24PM
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Bill.Nye
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He won BECAUSE of his "lack of experience," not in spite of it. 2008 was a year when after 8 years of horrible disasters from Washington, being an outsider was seen as an advantage.

Being black probably hurt him more than it helped him even in the Dem primary. There are a lot of racist democrats, especially in the south, that just don't trust him because he's not white.
Nov 6 2012 7:38PM
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Phil-X-
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To be honest I dont think this is a good thing. I honestly would prefer a old dude who isnt current then a young hip guy. Just my personal view on what a president should be like
Nov 6 2012 7:39PM
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KevinK.
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Finally some other people see this!! I remember the first election everyone in my school had obama t shirts and was totally amped on him. I would ask them why they wanted obama and they knew nothing about him other than he was black. Fucking idiots
Nov 6 2012 7:57PM
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accualyisdolan
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To all the people talking about liberal doctors ill film say it again. 9 out of ten doctors are against obamacare. Not very liberal to me
Nov 6 2012 8:06PM
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Bill.Nye
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The poll you're referencing actually was totally flawed and useless.
Nov 6 2012 8:14PM
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Anti_Panda
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lol at bill nye thinking bamz is an outsider. hes as much of a career politician as you can possible be.
Nov 6 2012 8:17PM
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Sketch*
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True but at least he doesn't look or act like a douchebag
Nov 6 2012 8:29PM
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Bill.Nye
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I didn't say that, I said he was viewed as an outsider. In 2008 there was some truth to that since he'd only been in the senate for one term and had been a state senator since 1996. Compared to the other people running that looked like an outsider, doesn't mean he was.

Criticize what I say, not what I don't.
Nov 6 2012 8:41PM
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Anti_Panda
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you clearly said "being an outsider was seen as an advantage"

so hes an outsider...with a career in politics. Makes sense to me
Nov 6 2012 8:47PM
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Bill.Nye
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Yes exactly. "Being an outsider was viewed as an advantage"

Politics is perception.
Nov 6 2012 8:48PM
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JWeinstock
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100% different. no joke, today i saw on twitter "Im a nigga and obamas a nigga so i vote for him"
Nov 6 2012 8:49PM
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ILLinoisance
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12 years of politics in Illinois if far too much. If you want to be considered an outsider from a politics standpoint in Illinois, you shouldn't have ever served a day in office. We're home to some of the most crooked fucking politicians in the country.

Blago, George Ryan, Tony Rezko, Jesse Jackson Jr. only to name a few in the past decade.
Nov 6 2012 8:51PM
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Anti_Panda
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that doesnt change anything bill..you still called him am outsider.
Nov 6 2012 8:56PM
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Bill.Nye
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No I didn't. I said being an outsider was viewed as an advantage and compared to the other people running he looked like an outsider.

If you're just going to sit there and burn straw men then you might as well leave.
Nov 6 2012 9:16PM
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