Political debates?@#$ where do they get you?

they get us another enlightened thread made by d-loc.....what more could you want!


Current Ns.com Idiot - in my book: D-loc's wit and wisdom at its best.

'Don't speculate my life because I've been through alot worse than you.' - d-loc
'I have my job because I worked for it, most do not.' - d-loc
'I've worked my ass off since I was 12 years old, I was an umpire! Yup, an umpire for 5 years!' - d-loc
'I make 50,000 a month as a programmer.' - d-loc .....(this is $600,000 a year, at age 20, while still in college)
'I have a carrer started already even before I have a degree, once I'm done with college I will have my bachlors and a job already. Only thing my pay will be hella higher.' - d-loc
'I only state the facts, no opinions, thats what sets me apart from everyone.' - d-loc
'It's just a matter of time until people like me (our generation) get into office.' - d-loc
'Man made beer, it's not good for the body after time. God created pot, for some reason this plant is here, so why not use what we are given and stop creating new projects such as beer.' - d-loc
'Their are becoming too many rules and shit, so soon we will all just crack. I'm trying to avoid that, not just smoke weed fools.' - d-loc
'Nothing else really matters to me. Just that its my body, and someone's controlling what I put into it.' - d-loc
'Drugs will always be around, why not profit off them from a government point of stance? you aint stopping them, so join them.' - d-loc
'I personally do not believe that pot should be legalized.' - d-loc
'Tell me about poilitics in real life and I'll let you talk your head off and not say a word. Cuz politics are a waste of brain space, get u nowhere in life but an argument.' - d-loc
'NADER all the way for me.' - d-loc
'Who cares how much money our country has, it does us no good if we ain't got shit to spend it on.' - d-loc
'I'm the moron here now, Yet, I know more about upcoming technoloy then most people ever will. Who has even heard of nanotechnology or even knows what it is?' - d-loc
'Man leave the country then tell me you hate it, I dare you.' - d-loc
'I'll fucking move to canada RIGHT NOW and would be 100 times happier. I would glady leave all the rules & regulations in this stupid U.S.' - d-loc
'See, I look at the future, not at this moment.' - d-loc
'Smoking cigs, in the long run what's it get me? nothing but $4 a pack outta my wallet a day to keep the habit. A bag runs me like $275 max and that can last me easily for 2 months. now $4 a pack X 60 = $240. Okay, so for about the same price.' - d-loc
'Sure, their world is drastically different, but I'm not going to no 3rd world. I'm on this world, Earth!' - d-loc (reffering to 3rd world countries)

In D-loc's Essay on why he's Smarter than me. (I did not ask for this, it randomly was messaged to me):
'I'll have you know my brain is very developed. I have what you call a photographic memory.' - d-loc
'So, I guess you really are intellectually below me, but I see now your just the one who can get up to my speed.' - d-loc
'Weighing in at only 125 lbs, I could easily bench double my weight as a senior in H.S.; maxing out at an outstanding 245 lbs. I still had the build of a small person.' - d-loc
'What I'm getting at is I don't know how I can get this out to people, and if I am just a great athlete or what.' - d-loc (he almost fell off a couch, but caught himself; what an amazing athlete!)
'So, before you even begin to talk about me, please I would like you to think with that undevolped brain. Maybe I'm not the dumb misfounded stoner you believe I am.' - d-loc (i think this was his conclusion?)

In regards to Europe being better than the United States:
'Sure if ur in the wrong neighborhoods you could be robbed or shot, but for the most part stick together and ur fine' - d-loc

comeon, im curious to see where everyone has acceled in life now since debating for the past year?

what good has come to you?

you happy, whining and complaing about ur shit nonstop?





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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

oh great i have seen what its gotten you...

A new signature (2 SCREEN PAINES) complimetns of me and my games with you fool.
umm a high electric bill for being on the computer.
carpeltunnel (sp)
vision hurt
and not any relief of satisfaction that you actually did something worth while in life.

yet i see nothing you have actually accomplished, except me hating bush even more haha.


great job, your going places in life



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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

every now and then someone will bring something to my attention that I didn't previously realise. But in all honesty most people state opinions and normative statements and treat them as facts instead of backing up shit they say empirically.


We pay our debt sometimes.

I like to prove somebodies stupidity, eg-dspin7x arguing with me over whether Bush was democratically elected, when he was obviously appointed by the supreme court.
However, debating politics is a way of learning, not only about yourself, but about how other people view the world. Debating, in the civilzed form, like in the DL is extremely useful.



Diamonds... She'll pretty much have to

^debates yes, politics NO.

see each political party has no rules saying it has to stick with what they say.

so how can you debate something that probably isnt going to hold or stay true to their word?

how many things did bush say he was gonna do 4 years ago and never has, or changed his mind as soon as he was in office.

politics may be how we rule this country but they will soon tear us apart



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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

^Debating is all about perception o' wise one.

I enjoy a debate. It's a great way to practicing the art of argument and understanding. Debates can bring others opinions and perspectives to light as well as help you to better understand yours. It can indeed get me places.

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T-Money: wtf
T-Money: i think the icecream truck just hit a kid
T-Money: brbrb

it's a great way of learning about people, it helps your research and logical thinking skills (if debating is ddone correctly, w/out aid of d-loc)
-Joe
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'Really, I gotta say that I'm glad you exist, 'cause if there wasn't there'd be noone to make fun of and diss.'

Solider in the NS ARMY
Rollers of NS unite!!!
603 for life
I'm conservative, just so you all know.

Member Number: 5172

Golden Wheel Chair Award 2004-09-21

^ HE GAWK funny man we have on our hands, yet i havent even debated with any of you mother fuckers... i was just playing a game to see how piss you get about a little subject know as politics.

my votes for nader all the way, has been sonce last election. he jsut makes sence, thats all.

i dont debate for the reason of people not controlling their actions and thinking they know it all.

its pointless to try and reason with americans, cuz the other person is ALWAYS right and ur wrong.

ever notice that?

even when u take the time to research and get facts, their some dumbass that cant keep his mouth shut and doesnt have th will power to just elt it go.

its the american way to bitch and argue, and you guys crack me up for all the bitching you do.

i bring the site alive whenever im on, never a dull mooment.

im here for entertainment and amusement, also some informative shit... yet not taken seriously cuz im the idiot i guess... so i coudl really care less about all the bitching, its just funny how thats all u can do guys, comeon cut it out.

grow up and be a man, i know i have.

i dont fight or steal like most, never hit anyone before, beside football. yet im the bafling moron. i can control my actions yet you can not.



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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

I have never had the misfourtune of reading so many rediculous and contradictive comments in my life. D-loc is without doubt mentally impaired.

50k a month for programming eh? Interesting,what can you code?
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If I can't do it homey, it can't be done. I'ma let the champagne bottle pop ima take it to the top fo sho ima make it hot.
Trouble maker whaaaat!!!

but d-loc every post you make is boring, how do you bring it alive again? by stating stupid shit, i wouldn't call that entertaining.

so while you sit there and think about how no one ever sees it the way you do. maybe it's because you sohuld see it the way they do. they have reasons other than being the smartest person on this planet (which seems to be your reasoning for everything). i'm sure you're going to say something that is so smart i can't even begin to comprehend the english you use to say it.


Current Ns.com Idiot - in my book: D-loc's wit and wisdom at its best.

'Don't speculate my life because I've been through alot worse than you.' - d-loc
'I have my job because I worked for it, most do not.' - d-loc
'I've worked my ass off since I was 12 years old, I was an umpire! Yup, an umpire for 5 years!' - d-loc
'I make 50,000 a month as a programmer.' - d-loc .....(this is $600,000 a year, at age 20, while still in college)
'I have a carrer started already even before I have a degree, once I'm done with college I will have my bachlors and a job already. Only thing my pay will be hella higher.' - d-loc
'I only state the facts, no opinions, thats what sets me apart from everyone.' - d-loc
'It's just a matter of time until people like me (our generation) get into office.' - d-loc
'Man made beer, it's not good for the body after time. God created pot, for some reason this plant is here, so why not use what we are given and stop creating new projects such as beer.' - d-loc
'Their are becoming too many rules and shit, so soon we will all just crack. I'm trying to avoid that, not just smoke weed fools.' - d-loc
'Nothing else really matters to me. Just that its my body, and someone's controlling what I put into it.' - d-loc
'Drugs will always be around, why not profit off them from a government point of stance? you aint stopping them, so join them.' - d-loc
'I personally do not believe that pot should be legalized.' - d-loc
'Tell me about poilitics in real life and I'll let you talk your head off and not say a word. Cuz politics are a waste of brain space, get u nowhere in life but an argument.' - d-loc
'NADER all the way for me.' - d-loc
'Who cares how much money our country has, it does us no good if we ain't got shit to spend it on.' - d-loc
'I'm the moron here now, Yet, I know more about upcoming technoloy then most people ever will. Who has even heard of nanotechnology or even knows what it is?' - d-loc
'Man leave the country then tell me you hate it, I dare you.' - d-loc
'I'll fucking move to canada RIGHT NOW and would be 100 times happier. I would glady leave all the rules & regulations in this stupid U.S.' - d-loc
'See, I look at the future, not at this moment.' - d-loc
'Smoking cigs, in the long run what's it get me? nothing but $4 a pack outta my wallet a day to keep the habit. A bag runs me like $275 max and that can last me easily for 2 months. now $4 a pack X 60 = $240. Okay, so for about the same price.' - d-loc
'Sure, their world is drastically different, but I'm not going to no 3rd world. I'm on this world, Earth!' - d-loc (reffering to 3rd world countries)

In D-loc's Essay on why he's Smarter than me. (I did not ask for this, it randomly was messaged to me):
'I'll have you know my brain is very developed. I have what you call a photographic memory.' - d-loc
'So, I guess you really are intellectually below me, but I see now your just the one who can get up to my speed.' - d-loc
'Weighing in at only 125 lbs, I could easily bench double my weight as a senior in H.S.; maxing out at an outstanding 245 lbs. I still had the build of a small person.' - d-loc
'What I'm getting at is I don't know how I can get this out to people, and if I am just a great athlete or what.' - d-loc (he almost fell off a couch, but caught himself; what an amazing athlete!)
'So, before you even begin to talk about me, please I would like you to think with that undevolped brain. Maybe I'm not the dumb misfounded stoner you believe I am.' - d-loc (i think this was his conclusion?)

In regards to Europe being better than the United States:
'Sure if ur in the wrong neighborhoods you could be robbed or shot, but for the most part stick together and ur fine' - d-loc

^alright stoner of 5 years + who supports WOD woot woot



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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

^^^Detective... you got that right on the mark.

the reason they are contradicting is cuz ill say anything to piss you off.

those arent my beliefs by any means, yet we are on the internet and u take everything seriously.

so keep up the good detective work bro



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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

'i was just playing a game'

Dude, stop trying to cover the fact that you are an idiot. You have been put in your place so many times its not even funny. Stop trying to act like somebody else and acknowledge that you made some stupid comments. Show at least some sign of maturity if you want to post in a debate.

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T-Money: wtf
T-Money: i think the icecream truck just hit a kid
T-Money: brbrb

dude ive been playing this game with NS now for 2 years +, nothing changed, look at my post from way back when, i say the same shit i do now.

mature in a political debate, how could that ever happen?

i dont debate bro, debatings for losers and fried chicken



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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

so are you trying to make us look bad because we state our beliefs?

and you jsut type things up all day to piss random people off all over the globe? you really do sound like a winner. as you've said to me so many times, 'you're so much better in life than me.' i bet your girlfriend loves debating with you. your intelligence is off the charts man, or are you a woman (you've told me you're both).

sweet stoner for 3 years, d-loc.
(just because i smoked weed, am i not entitled to an opinion? do i have to believe everything the great ol' mighty d-loc believes? if yes, shoot me in the head please.)


Current Ns.com Idiot - in my book: D-loc's wit and wisdom at its best.

'Don't speculate my life because I've been through alot worse than you.' - d-loc
'I have my job because I worked for it, most do not.' - d-loc
'I've worked my ass off since I was 12 years old, I was an umpire! Yup, an umpire for 5 years!' - d-loc
'I make 50,000 a month as a programmer.' - d-loc .....(this is $600,000 a year, at age 20, while still in college)
'I have a carrer started already even before I have a degree, once I'm done with college I will have my bachlors and a job already. Only thing my pay will be hella higher.' - d-loc
'I only state the facts, no opinions, thats what sets me apart from everyone.' - d-loc
'It's just a matter of time until people like me (our generation) get into office.' - d-loc
'Man made beer, it's not good for the body after time. God created pot, for some reason this plant is here, so why not use what we are given and stop creating new projects such as beer.' - d-loc
'Their are becoming too many rules and shit, so soon we will all just crack. I'm trying to avoid that, not just smoke weed fools.' - d-loc
'Nothing else really matters to me. Just that its my body, and someone's controlling what I put into it.' - d-loc
'Drugs will always be around, why not profit off them from a government point of stance? you aint stopping them, so join them.' - d-loc
'I personally do not believe that pot should be legalized.' - d-loc
'Tell me about poilitics in real life and I'll let you talk your head off and not say a word. Cuz politics are a waste of brain space, get u nowhere in life but an argument.' - d-loc
'NADER all the way for me.' - d-loc
'Who cares how much money our country has, it does us no good if we ain't got shit to spend it on.' - d-loc
'I'm the moron here now, Yet, I know more about upcoming technoloy then most people ever will. Who has even heard of nanotechnology or even knows what it is?' - d-loc
'Man leave the country then tell me you hate it, I dare you.' - d-loc
'I'll fucking move to canada RIGHT NOW and would be 100 times happier. I would glady leave all the rules & regulations in this stupid U.S.' - d-loc
'See, I look at the future, not at this moment.' - d-loc
'Smoking cigs, in the long run what's it get me? nothing but $4 a pack outta my wallet a day to keep the habit. A bag runs me like $275 max and that can last me easily for 2 months. now $4 a pack X 60 = $240. Okay, so for about the same price.' - d-loc
'Sure, their world is drastically different, but I'm not going to no 3rd world. I'm on this world, Earth!' - d-loc (reffering to 3rd world countries)

In D-loc's Essay on why he's Smarter than me. (I did not ask for this, it randomly was messaged to me):
'I'll have you know my brain is very developed. I have what you call a photographic memory.' - d-loc
'So, I guess you really are intellectually below me, but I see now your just the one who can get up to my speed.' - d-loc
'Weighing in at only 125 lbs, I could easily bench double my weight as a senior in H.S.; maxing out at an outstanding 245 lbs. I still had the build of a small person.' - d-loc
'What I'm getting at is I don't know how I can get this out to people, and if I am just a great athlete or what.' - d-loc (he almost fell off a couch, but caught himself; what an amazing athlete!)
'So, before you even begin to talk about me, please I would like you to think with that undevolped brain. Maybe I'm not the dumb misfounded stoner you believe I am.' - d-loc (i think this was his conclusion?)

In regards to Europe being better than the United States:
'Sure if ur in the wrong neighborhoods you could be robbed or shot, but for the most part stick together and ur fine' - d-loc

'dude ive been playing this game with NS now for 2 years +, nothing changed, look at my post from way back when, i say the same shit i do now.'

Why don't you actually prove us wrong instead of saying 'I was smart once'. You actually can be mature in a political debate. You just need to make thoughtful posts. Is that so hard? And if you don't debate, then why do you post in threads where debates are taking place? You need to put up or shut up kid. End of story.

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T-Money: wtf
T-Money: i think the icecream truck just hit a kid
T-Money: brbrb

woot. woot.



Current Ns.com Idiot - in my book: D-loc's wit and wisdom at its best.

D-loc, you didn't address the question of what you code to make your 50k a month and for who?
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If I can't do it homey, it can't be done. I'ma let the champagne bottle pop ima take it to the top fo sho ima make it hot.
Trouble maker whaaaat!!!

Yes, please enlighten us.



But, you can always fall back on your degree in... Communications! Oh, dear Lord!
I know! Is phony major. Lubchenko learn nothing. Nothing!

Our greatest glory consists not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall.

Breathe and Stop

Ninja Steeze 05

he codes this.






...official founder of the NS t.A.T.U. fanclub...

they get you to shutthefuckupville.
Being from New Zealand means your from the best fucking country in the world!

Fuck Brash
Fuck Bush
Fuck Blair
Fuck Howard.

Can someone explain why everyone let this gem go:
''once in office the pres has any right he wishes, and will do anything he wants.''
That's one of the dumbest political comments I've ever heard on NS. Come on, people. I expect Crucifixions here.

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In a haze
A stormy haze
I’ll be around
I’ll be loving you
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Always

Here I am
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d-loc, i now know why bitchassphatz hate you, and i completely agree.

'debating and bitching' - since when is debating wrong. debating isn't even close to what bitching is. i debate by have an intelligent conversation with someone.

and we don't have a say in the government? but voting is just for show i guess eh?

you're an idiot. you and jarros should go crawl into a hole together and die.





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Good Fun With A Hand Gun.

NO MORE BU** SH**

'i dont fight or steal like most, never hit anyone before, beside football. yet im the bafling moron. i can control my actions yet you can not.'

wow, once more assuming he knows us. i seriously think d-loc believes the world needs him because hes some sort of all knowing god. he has some sort of ego centric idea where he thinks he knows EVERYTHING, even to the point where he knows me and you, and every part of our character, our actions, and thoughts. when he does this he merely shows how high-and-mighty he thinks he is.

yo d-loc, what would you do if i said i have more self-control than you? huh, how would you know if thats the truth or a lie? seriously, without meeting me and spending time with me (which is something you will never be able to do) you don't know anything about my life, or my actions/reactions, so quit spending you time acting like an asshole, and not assume.
-Joe
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'Really, I gotta say that I'm glad you exist, 'cause if there wasn't there'd be noone to make fun of and diss.'

Solider in the NS ARMY
Rollers of NS unite!!!
603 for life
I'm conservative, just so you all know.

Member Number: 5172

Golden Wheel Chair Award 2004-09-21

uhh yes i told you what i code... spyware software... spybuster, nitrous anti-spy, spywatch, computer monitoring, infiltration systems.

and i dont want to debate, it gets you nowhere in life except wasted time and a spew of opinions.

their are no facts in a political debate except facts on how the current pres did in his 4 years so far.

bush lied and said he would do all this shit when he got into office yet never did, those are the only facts.

anything stated by the candidates doesnt mean they will do it, so its all opinions NO FACTS in a political debate.

the only fact is bush has killed 1000 US soldiers and kerry has not. bush wants to keep killing soldiers, kerry does not.

those are the facts and thats about it buddy.



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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

I just dont see how you can debate something thats not true?

you have no facts on what each person will do once in office therefore why aregue and bitch at one another about what they say, debate about what is done, not what is said.

yet noone in america can see it like this, they way i see things. show me facts, show me where bush kept his word on what he said he would do in the running 4 years ago?

i want to see facts and debate about them, not debate about false statements each has to make now, when trying to just be elected so they say anything.



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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

^^^^

Today I am thankful that stupidity, when it is read or heard, does not kill. If it did, none of us would be here right now.
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Bush/Cheney '04

ok asac, let me restate...

you do have a say i guess, you get to pick a person that will just lie and say anything to get to be president. they can do whatever once in office and u cant do shit.

so the only say you have is electing a person which you feel is most honest.

anything else you get a say on?

like going to war?
depleating jobs?
increase in taxes?
increase in inflation?
SS?
medical benefits?
your future?

i just dont get what you people dont get about this. its so simple its obvious, and you cant even see it.

thats why i dont debate, cuz i already know... WHY DEBATE something you cant prove anyhting about?



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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

like going to war?

No problem there. A brutal dictator that killed 300,000 to 3 million of his own people, raped women, imprisoned children, and tortured citizens is now out of office. I don't have a problem with that at all.

May the soldiers who made the ultimate sacrifice RIP.



depleating jobs?

How much did it cost you to buy that spin put on by John Kerry? Want the truth about the jobs? Check out Spinsanity, a truly non-biased website that calls out both Bush and Kerry.

Bush inherited a receding economy throw in 9/11, and of course you are going to have depleting jobs. However 2003 is factually one of the best economic growth years our nation has ever had. Since October of '02 the DOW has increased by 3000 points and we have seen nothing but more jobs added. So what depleting jobs do you speak of?

increase in taxes?

Why increase taxes? I say lower them even more. D-Loc, when you are on welfare I don't want to be one of the Americans paying your bills.

Bush Tax Cuts

increase in inflation?

Inflation has shown an annual average increase of 3% over the course of our nation's history. Some years the increase has been 12%, while others it has increased by next to nothing.

SS?

Screw social security. It takes money out of my paycheck and it won't even exist (at this rate) by the time I would be eligible for it. Besides, I have a brain, I can plan for my own retirement. The best plan on SS? Bush's. Semi-privatize SS and allow people to invest in the market.

medical benefits?

Stop frivilous lawsuits, unnecessary operations performed by greed inspired doctors, and false claims and our rates would be lower. As long as we don't socialize our health care system we will be fine. Why not socialize it? Look at Canada and Sweden and you will see two socialized health care systems rapidly declining with costs rapidly increasing


your future?

Better than yours D-Loc
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Getting it Right In America
Right In America

'Except For Ending Slavery, Facism, Nazism, and Communism War Has Never Solved Anything'
Protest Warrior

Sick of Michael Moore's lies?
MooreWatch

Bush/Cheney '04

i had a better response but this stupid layout is ghey and didnt let me post sooo....

war... who cares what others are doing, its not our country so why do we control it. just cuz we are the super power must mean we get in everyones business.

jobs... i have never seen so many families fighting for survival becuase bush has set us in such a depleted state all companies must out sorce to even survive.

taxes... bush wants to lower taxes for the richer you are and tax people who make less more. it that just a monkey talking or what sence is behind that?

inflation... its way way up because of the decision bush has made. he made the decision to fight now we cant get oil, so dmand is still their but supply, NO. so prices go up.

SS... their you go again making assumptions the SS will dissapear. your just stating another opinion their or is it proven its going to die? are you a time traveler, cuz that the only way you could answer yes to that being a fact.

medical... i get all my scripts at half the cost they are here in america, at a good ol' place called canada. bush wants to keep raising medical cost, for some reason, and wont let us have them even when we NEED them to live no matter what. its bush's way of knocking off a few more people to get the population back down to standards.


people are going to die everyday if we stick with this plan, and believe me we arent going anywhere for a LONG long time now that bush has started the fight.

we always have to be the instigator, when it could be solved many different ways.

why dont we use technology to help fight, use remote planes with cameras and fire power. then no soldiers have to die for stupid costs. we have better stuff available but ush would rather see a battle and get a kick outta watching 18 year old be tortured and demolished.

we are the future and hes killing us off. i say why not get people that want to fight this war yet wont enlist to get their asses over their. and people that are forced to go should have some decision whether or not they feell the need to kill people that have their own standards of living.

the countries just differnt, and who are we (ie Bush) to say whats right and wrong?

when are we who came up with all the laws and standards?

if you really think about it, what does anything really mean?

i mean... what does a word really mean, we jsut made up the words for each object. and go by that standard. now we have a standard of war and we stick by it, even if its wrong.



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I really should stop reading D-Loc's posts because I am truly beginning to believe they are making me stoopider.

Obviously D-Loc did not read the links I provided.

Bush has actually INCREASED the tax burden on the wealthy. D-Loc has also apparently failed to notice the FACTS that I provided regarding the economy the last two years.

And D-Loc has failed to recogniz that SS is failing and numerous Senators from both sides have stated that if there is no drastic reform soon it will be gone
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dude i hate to break it to ya but i dont read shit, i dont read what you write nor am i reading any links.

fuck i never read a book fully though HS so why would i start now?

and great 2 people PREDICT SS will be gone, yet that not a fact so dont bring it up unless you can prove its gone.

and unless your a time traveler, no facts can come about speculation on that subject.

see you continually just speculate and beleive what people tell you. that fine, be another american.

but until it happends why should i beleve what the gov feels will happend. when did they think about the future when they started the war?

did they think we would enver be able to leave?
did they think 1000's would die?
did they think we would be watching videos of americans soldiers being brutally tortured to death?

no we didnt know because it didnt happend yet so you cant just speculate.

i KNOW ive got a better reasoning and thinking then most people, and i dont really care what you think of me and all that shit.

i know ive outsmarted most individuals, thats why i can succeed.

ur on a forum where i can bullshit you to the max and ur gonna believe. and its great to see you all listen to whats posted and try and believe its real.

I LOVE AMERICANS



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D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

^ oh deal lordy... give me a sec to stop laughing... aye me, my sides.... never read a book eh? you didnt read graves posts, nor his links? he read yours obviously, and was able to refute each of your insipid DNC talking points. you obviously pay attention to what terry mcaullif says, so i know you can pay attention to what other people say as well.

i know its hard to accept when your wrong, but you will have to come to the realization that youre not right all the time, and at those times you should consider the fact that someone else might be. (now is one of those times)

if youre so into thinking and not being swayed by the omnipresent omnicient power that is corrupting the minds of us ignorant americans, you had better learn to read and consider what others have to say.

















Mercy's eyes are blue
When she places them in front of you
Nothing holds a roman candle to
The solemn warmth you feel inside

^good post. sums it up nicely.

^^yet graves continues to specualte on things, like SS...

no one fucking knows for sure so why say its going ot be gone?

this war... now that IS dumb, and proven fact that we lose americans everyday to stop another countries stupidity. if they wanna rape let em, thats their decision in THEIR COUNTRY, not america, their are no rules, their is no right or wrong.

cant you even begin to see that?

you can even to begin to believe what i have in store for you, because you jus dont know and never will.



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D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

im genuinely curious as to what exactly you have in store for me. i seriously would like to be enlightened. honestly.

if you dont read, how did you become so gosh-darned smart? if you dont considers other peoples views, how can you make informed judgments? youre so sure that your right on so very many things, and yet to 90-95% of the population, your appear to be dead wrong, and plain silly.

but seriously, back to the key point of my post, what do you have in store for me? im giddy with anticipation.















Mercy's eyes are blue
When she places them in front of you
Nothing holds a roman candle to
The solemn warmth you feel inside

^dude you couldnt handle it so i dont present it.

and for all the talk about me being wrong, 'how can opinions be wrong?' stated by many others.

so if im stating my opinions on what i feel, im wrong if its not to the liking of you.

yet if i say im all for bush, you imediatly jump on my dick to be my firend.

you see if someone is for someone else than you, that person will always be wrong in ur mind.

yet seeing as politics are all aout bullshitting the nieve public, how can anyhting said be taken seriously, when in the end once elected that person may do what ever the fuck he wants.



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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

no, seriously, i want it. i can handle it, i swear. unleash it baby.

as for opinion, they can be wrong when founded on false information. i can have the opinion that the sky is actually yellow, or the the universe is actually not heilocentric, but i would still be wrong.

if you like, kerry, fine, if you like bush, fine. i will still disagree with you if your premisis for liking either of them is off base. if you say, i like bush because he will nuke the terrorists, and to hell with everyone else, i will tell you that youre an idiot. if you say that you hate bush for those same reasons, guess what? youre still and idiot, becuase your opinions are founded on incorrect information.

so to answer your question, d-loc, yes, an opinion can be wrong, and it appears to me that yours is one such opinion.















Mercy's eyes are blue
When she places them in front of you
Nothing holds a roman candle to
The solemn warmth you feel inside

d-loc, bro; you can foreshadow the future. you may not be 100% right, but you get damn close. my step father predicts the future every day. not at a global stand point, but he predicts 4 months in advance what his company will do. and it usualy is right.

so this whole SS thing might actually be something you should be concerned about. instead of waiting until it is depleted.

so please since you've 'outsmarted' so many folks, out smart all of us here on ns.com who don't see things from the great eyes of d-loc. a true genius, such as yourself, should be able to show others the light in addition to seeing it. so guide me to your great wisdom d-loc, and give me reason to be on your side.

(instead of bashing others for 'not bringing up facts', why not bring up facts of your own to shut them down for once.)



Current Ns.com Idiot - in my book: D-loc's wit and wisdom at its best.

^^ see thats where your wrong...

opinions can not be wrong in a political debate, becasue their are NO FACTS. mearly words coming out of someones mouth on what they would like to do with this country.

will most get done?
NO
will they even try to follow though with what is said?
NO
do they have to keep their word?
NO
who will punish the president if he lies?
NOONE

so you see you cant have wrong opinions in a political debate because all you have is a rep's opinion on an issue.

now how can you take a representatives opinion on a certain issue and opinionate on ir urself?
its not a fact so ur basically just trying to prove which one has better opinions on the issues when their are NO FACTS

so show me FACTS on the 1000's of things Bush had opinions on to make better yet never even tried?

1 fact is certain, HE HAS GOTTEN US IN A SITUATION THAT WE CAN NEVER GET OUT OF AND 1000'S MORE WILL DIE.

and thats the only fact u can present man, anything else is just opinions on how to make america better.

look at it from my stand point... oh wait u cant get on my level just yet until you figure out how to stimulate the brain so you can actually use more than 10% at a time.

i jsut find it amusing to watch brain dead american like urself argue and bicker constantly over a few opinions.

man ur right the sky is blue, a fact, YES... the first fact anyone has presented to me yet. so go on debate that some worthless matter contributing to nothing but pollution on our earth.

the first



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land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

^^ im not gonna sit here and try to explain to you that i can manipulate my brain to think in differnt ways because it would take forever to get it through ur fucking ignorant heads that i just might be a better thinker than you. that i just might maybe not be as stupid as i persever myself to be online. maybe i just play games with u because its fun and passes my day. or maybe i just dont really care what ur input may be on my brain activity and how much more stimulated it has gotten then yours.



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Some people talk it, some people live it, some people walk it-some people give it... deal with it.

D-Loc AKA Shaky Bones... Original, Unique, and One of a Kind.

land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

skiin', smokin', snackin', sexin', sleepin'... all anyone needs in life

^ what?



Current Ns.com Idiot - in my book: D-loc's wit and wisdom at its best.

Wow D-Loc you can make yourself think in different ways? Incredible!! Hmmm...let me try

I think we should have more tax cuts. Oooh I am a Republican.

I think we should have socialized health care. Oooh look now I am a Liberal.

I think that the UN is a trash organization. Oooh now I am a Conservative.

Gee thinking differently than normal sure is tough. I don't know how you do it D-Loc.

And manipulate is the incorrect word to use there.

Manipulate: To influence or manage shrewdly or deviously

So you deviously influence your thought process? Haha. Do you sit there and play devious tricks on yourself to think differently and then shout out in victory after you have deceived yourself? Moron.


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this is the best entertainiment ive had in a long time. and d-loc, im still waitning for you to unleash what ever it is on us. i swear im prepared for it.

you stated that it is a 100% fact that the president has gotten us into a situation in iraq that we 'can never get out of, and where 1000's more will die'

a fact is it? no speculation there? we will never get out? 1000's more WILL die? pure, unadulterated speculation my fine friend. you sir, have contradicted yourself in a greivious fashion. i would think that someone with such brain power as you claim to have would be able to construct a linear argument without contradicting himself, unfortunatly, you failed to present an argment that lasted more than two or three paragraphs before blatenlty crossing the entire premise for your insipid and obtuse conjecture....

but really what i want is for you to let me in on whatever secret your witholding from us.

i am on my knees begging you PLEASE D-LOC! SHARE YOUR WISDOM WITH ME!!!! I CAN HANDLE IT!!! I CAN I CAN I CAN!!!!!!















Mercy's eyes are blue
When she places them in front of you
Nothing holds a roman candle to
The solemn warmth you feel inside

president bush did say he was going to start taking out the triangle of evil (iraq, iran, n. korean) before he was elected. i don't think he lied about that.



Current Ns.com Idiot - in my book: D-loc's wit and wisdom at its best.

anewmorning.... Your on fire in this thread!

yeah, well if d-loc would just stop holding out on me, i would probably be able to settle down a bit... but im just so excited at the possibilities.... what could he have in store for us this time?















Mercy's eyes are blue
When she places them in front of you
Nothing holds a roman candle to
The solemn warmth you feel inside

back to 'never read books through' wow, how do expect to learn if you cant even read anewmornings paragraph, or links? seriously, you think we're wrong, yet we've studied and read and paid attention. and that youre right, even though you cant back up with more than speculation and your nonexistant facts. i wish i could have gotten in there earlier, but i think youre egotistical mind would take it as a compliment if i posted after each of your errant posts. if youre so smart, go run for some sort of office, run for president, and see how much of the informed and educated american public will find you worthy of our votes. congratulations, you inspired the spite of most of your peers. oh, and im pretty sure ou didnt read this, so i can call you an asshole and you wont know.
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it was graves with the links... i dont want to steal his credit.















Mercy's eyes are blue
When she places them in front of you
Nothing holds a roman candle to
The solemn warmth you feel inside