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why did u ban tosh?

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jibberkid69
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recently tosh peters (pcfreerider) made a post about ninthward opening ski sales online and cko sent him a message that said forums weren't meant for advertising (i thought people would be excited to know). when pcfreerider got the message his brother max was on and told him to fuck off and he could post stuff about ninthward if he wanted to. personally i think that pcfreerider was totally in the right. what do u guys think?



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Sep 22 2004 6:16PM
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666
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I dont think he should have been banned.


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Sep 22 2004 6:19PM
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park_kid111
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gay?
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Sep 22 2004 6:19PM
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NickMartini
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well his reply seemed to make things better, no one is allowed to so why should he be able to, that happened with liberty too.



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Sep 22 2004 6:20PM
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Skier10322
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Why should they get to advertise for free when Whistler, Joystick, Liberty, PoorBoyz, High North, PleHouse all pay for advertising?
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Sep 22 2004 6:21PM
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jksl
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waaaa waaaa, go cry about it
if it's really that important they could get someone to put it up on the news page

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Sep 22 2004 6:21PM
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NickMartini
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good point^



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Sep 22 2004 6:24PM
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mattwalker
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yea i think that it all needs to go all go one way. i mean i made a post like that a year ago for HS, deleted and i got a warning. but then you see all these other threads plugging movies and new clothing lines and other ski gear... i mean ban ALL threads/talking about ANY ski gear (the posts in this thread would be cut in half) or let them ALL go...


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Sep 22 2004 6:24PM
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billyblindbeatoffboy
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I'm selling hand made ball pouches. everybody was knitting hats so i knitted a few warm pouches for your balls to ride in. buy them at my non existent web site.

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Sep 22 2004 6:27PM
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jibberkid69
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personally i like the fact that people post news about the companies that they are involved in, it keeps us all informed




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Sep 22 2004 6:31PM
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linemaverick540
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yea little freerider, i know what you mean. so many threads which were identical to mine were allowed to stay while every mention i made of a hat was deleted. it's hard to manage it all i suppose.


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Sep 22 2004 6:41PM
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yeah i agree

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Sep 22 2004 6:42PM
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*Christie*
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I think he should be unbanned because it's no different than saying a ski movie site is up or having the name of your company in a link below your name.



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Sep 22 2004 6:43PM
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mthoodmeadowsgirl
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SKI GABBER -The most popular forum on NS, the Ski Gabber forum is used to discuss anything ski related. From competitions to hills to trick tips, THIS FORUM IS FOR IT ALL. Obviously you need to change this statement. Also pcfreerider is not an owner so how could he be advertising> So your basically saying that anyone on here that hypes a product will be banned no matter who they are?

Sep 22 2004 6:52PM
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Snubluck
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Tosh is sponsored by ninthward though so it could go either way.

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Sep 22 2004 6:56PM
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h3ofilms
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if u do it for one person, u gotta do it for everyone..just ask permission..i did a few times and i got the ok
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Sep 22 2004 6:57PM
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go orage apparel




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Sep 22 2004 6:57PM
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h3ofilms
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but i dont necessarily agree the banning
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Sep 22 2004 6:58PM
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Markus13
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Free Tosh


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Sep 22 2004 7:03PM
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trevorwoulddoit
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I get the feeling that the banning was for the obscene message he sent cko. I would have done the same thing if he swore at me.



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Sep 22 2004 7:04PM
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skitheslopes
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skaski is the man just cause he listens to ska which i am doing now, but thats beside the piont pcfreerider rides pc (of course) and park city is just amazing when skiing is push to the max hence he should not be banned and ninthward is the shiz along with 4frnt so he should get like a promotion instead of getting banned.



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Sep 22 2004 7:06PM
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NickMartini
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agreed^



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Sep 22 2004 7:07PM
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cko
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guess what? Tosh wasn't banned. But the policy on advertising in our forums still stands.


it's all very exciting.
Sep 22 2004 8:07PM
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the-east-isnt-that-bad
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haha, yeah Chris..

anyways, what if we're advertising shit that is kinda just for Newschoolers members??
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Sep 22 2004 8:11PM
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r5tommy
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what is the policy on advertising
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Sep 22 2004 8:11PM
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cko
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I think it's ridiculous that people could complain about our moderation policies in this respect. We're all for growing the industry but you can't just create a company and expect to be able to market it for free and use NS, A FREE service to survive. As for Tosh not being an owner, he is a rider for Ninthward and therefore has a interest in seeing the company do well. In addition, the attitude I got from Tosh was definitely not warranted. Some of you guys need to grow up and realize that if you disrepect someone blatantly, you won't get treated well.

I've given Ninthward every chance to contact me or anyone else at the company to work out a fair and equitable deal, but apparently they're not having it. I can't do much more than that.



it's all very exciting.
Sep 22 2004 8:12PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Look, as far as CK and I know, Tosh has not been banned. Nobody that we know banned him. If he has been banned we will unban him immediately.

We are all about smaller companies coming up in the ranks and becoming larger. If you talk to us, and go through the proper channels, it's not a problem to use our site as a place to advertise.

However, advertising is the ONLY thing that we can sell at this site to make money. Right now, I work at a bike shop just to support this site. We all do. If you think that it is fair for us to put our entire lives into this site, and all of our money, all the while supporting a company that thinks advertising should be free, then that's fine.

We will just have to make it a pay site.

Since we will never do that, as all the staff at newschoolers.com would rather see the site burn in hell than have any of you have to pay to be on it, we must sell something.

If a group of people feels that they have the money to start a ski company, but no budget to advertise it then I am appaled at the business practises of that company.

Our advertising prices are COMPLETELY fair, considering the amount of people that go on this site. It is only reasonable that we recieve enough money to live from companies that are trying to make money.

We will never ban someone for posting comments about a company. If they are poaching free advertising, and taking away my food for the month, then hell yes I will delete their post.

Tosh is a great kid I met at high north this summer, and I wish that he hadn't handled the situation like a little child. Shame on ninthward for taking advantage of us like that.

So, if you want to run a company, then man up and talk to us on a professional level. If you think you have what it takes to succeed in the business world then guess what, it requires some money. We have to pay it. I have to pay it.

Stop fucking me over.




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Sep 22 2004 8:13PM
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CrazedSkier1080
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well no CKO is right. i plugged in'd FACTION really hard and thast when they started to get pissed. i only was cause i was working on a deal with them. so yeah its shitty for pc, but rules are rules u know

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Sep 22 2004 8:17PM
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witty
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word^ it think you did the right thing.....its hard to not have this resource taken advantage of....tosh prob didnt really realize the whole picture so he gave you shit....but if hes not kicked off then im sure hes learned his lesson well enough
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Sep 22 2004 8:17PM
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dr.phil
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this is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass.



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Sep 22 2004 8:34PM
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saucerboy84
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^hey man what the fuck are you doing...i got that corvette yesterday!!
Sep 22 2004 8:42PM
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h3ofilms
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it really does make sense, the forum could be flooded with promotion, but cko and the ns guys are really easy to work with if you just ask in advance

someone needs a rich person to donate to ns enough to run it forever..too bad im poor
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Sep 22 2004 8:52PM
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powskier1080
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I bet ns costs a lot to run. if people coudl advertise for free, all the paying sponsors would just advertise for free. and then ns would make no money and would go offline. stopping 'companies' from advertising for free keeps ns online. what is bad about that
Sep 22 2004 8:55PM
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the-east-isnt-that-bad
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^haha, after I make my first million I have specific amounts of money alloted for different people and projects. Newschoolers gets $250,000us plus whatever is left over...

I also have to buy one of my friends a new car, and somebody else a room full of inflatable porno dolls...
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Sep 22 2004 8:56PM
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kyle_w
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if his name is like about tosh townend, the skater, tosh is sooo cool, the real tosh,i skated with him tonigt and hes cool as shit




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Sep 22 2004 8:58PM
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skibum193
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its a fine line between saying good stuff about a copmany and free advertsiing. NS seems really good about not being too picky about this kind of stuff. its such a sick site, we should all be supporting it as much as we can

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Sep 22 2004 9:04PM
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ATLANTASKI
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yea Cko and mdfresh are completely right, as much as i like ninthward, they should stop being pussies and donate to the site, it will help their image and it will make more people prone to buying their shit because they help support something that is near and dear to my heart lol.

they run the site, they invest alot of money into this and they have the right to do what they want. and also they have to make a living and sacrifice alot just to keep this site running, i think i will be donating a ben franklin to this site soon


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Sep 22 2004 9:05PM
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Tosh
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im still here dont worry kids
Sep 22 2004 9:13PM
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ShitSlam4
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I dont understand why we cant, I mean it's one little bar on the forum, its not like its taking up tons of space or anything, and seriously everybody loves hearing about this shit, i know I do at least, because it pertains to me. I need new ski shit, so it belongs in the ski gabber.
Sep 22 2004 9:24PM
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lineskier610
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boo fuckin hoo
Sep 22 2004 9:27PM
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mattwalker
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i know everybody is going to hate me for this, but i wouldnt mind NS becoming a pay site, i mean dont go make it some huge fee, but 5 or 10 bucks a year wont be that bad, i would pay it, make NS better...


4FRNT.

High Society.

Enom Headwear.

Sidewinder Sports.

'skiboarding is too hard for most people. i broke both of my legs and shattered my pelvis just strapping the leashes on.' - mommy
Sep 22 2004 9:33PM
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dpoiii
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^less homos on here


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Sep 22 2004 9:46PM
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404404
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Littlefreerider what a bad bad idea. Harvey didnt make this site to make money he made it becuse he wanted to have a site anyone could go to.
Sep 22 2004 10:00PM
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pcfreeride
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i didnt do it my bro did. he was on my name. he is sorry

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Sep 22 2004 10:15PM
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kjfreerider
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exact same thing happenenend when i tryed to say factions online ordering was up and frankly i think the mods were right for taking it down. if everyone was allowed to basicly post commercials for ski companies companies would hire full time staff to spam this site with nothing but shit about there ski company.




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Sep 22 2004 10:35PM
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jibberkid69
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haha max is awsome




un-ban pcfreerider
Sep 22 2004 10:39PM
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mattwalker
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dude, it wouldnt be so CKO and Harvey could MAKE money... it would be so they didnt have to work to make the site RUN, they could work so they could afford gas, a car and other things 18 year olds need to buy... i mean how would you feel if every dime you ever made went into an online site, you never had novelties for yourself... i mean i dont know this for a fact, but i bet NS costs a lot to run and keep online, and since we use it, we should help keep it online. but whatever if u want the NS makers to keep having to use their paychecks to make this site run thats cool...


4FRNT.

High Society.

Enom Headwear.

Sidewinder Sports.

'skiboarding is too hard for most people. i broke both of my legs and shattered my pelvis just strapping the leashes on.' - mommy
Sep 22 2004 11:53PM
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pajibber
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When the site first started to blow up it was so cheap to advertise that people could buy banners with their names on it. This progression has to be regulated or the site will go to hell. This site was not started to make money of course, but that was when we did not even have a symbol for donators. A lot has changed from those pale blue days. People that have been here for a while realize that the change from the phattim cedric race to legitamate corporate sponsorship has come.

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Sep 23 2004 12:08AM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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newschoolers sold out


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Sep 23 2004 12:10AM
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Melvs
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sold out.. not at all. hit it big enough to need a source of income to be self sustaining is more like it. So much love goes out to MD and CKO and Harvey and everyone else who's made this site what it is, I don't seee how anyone can want to cheat them outta money.
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Sep 23 2004 12:20AM
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bitchassphatz
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yea none of you people pay for this site, so shut the fuck up.......you people take so much for granted, this used to not exist. were you looking for a ski site on the internet then....no you weren't......but a small group of kids thought that shit up and it grew very slowly....it's been free since the start. jsut because companies have to advertise you complain? my god, learn how business works. and if it weren't for you being a member they wouldn't have to charge for ads....think about that, they make money so you can read this page right now.


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Sep 23 2004 7:22AM
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