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c.hale
Posts: 636 - Karma: 50
How do people like Henrik and Casabon get away with switching from a boot like an SPK pro that has a 104mm last (I think), to fulltilts which are notoriously narrow (98ish mm last)?
Jan 25 2012 3:38PM
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kootenayklaus
Posts: 3914 - Karma: 2,179
The Full Tilt Team all get custom molded boots I believe, meaning shell, tongue, liner, everything.
Jan 25 2012 3:40PM
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eheath
Posts: 61107 - Karma: 118,279
Because they have skinny, tiny feet. Just because someone wore an spk before doesn't mean they had wide feet. Plus, ft makes a 102mm last boot if they need it...
Jan 25 2012 3:40PM
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sandybov.ill
Posts: 804 - Karma: 1,559
Because there switching to the comfiest boots known to man!
Jan 25 2012 3:54PM
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cobra_commander
Posts: 16909 - Karma: 4,682
Well it is possible to modify a ski boot ya know.
Jan 25 2012 3:57PM
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R.Fahey
Posts: 8602 - Karma: 539
They don't get custom boots. They get the same boot you would buy.
Sure, they have liners, tongues, etc. to swap out if they need them, but the shell isn't different.
Jan 25 2012 4:12PM
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MRoden
Posts: 753 - Karma: 211
Please tell me you're joking. Molds can cost 10 of thousands of dollars. Its why they make they same size shell for a full-size liner and half-size liner. Same reason FT tongues have a wide range of boot sizes they can fit on.
Jan 25 2012 4:39PM
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250r
Posts: 2274 - Karma: 1,020
no you heat up the shells, and punch them out in certain spots so they are form fitting to your feet, and then heat mold the liners afterwards. It doesnt cost anything to do assuming you have the basic equipment needed to do it. Its like what places like surefoot do.
Jan 25 2012 4:43PM
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james6345789
Posts: 4763 - Karma: 465
I was just thinking about this yesterday, you've answered my question.
Jan 25 2012 4:53PM
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Mike-O
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MMMMMM...


I love the smell of sarcasm in the morning.
Jan 25 2012 4:56PM
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Skiingsnow
Posts: 1567 - Karma: 797
sometimes a rider will get to the level where having boots with different coloured toes, forefoot, calf , buckles etc.. is not enough. this is when they upgrade to something wil ultimate steez - cable covers. only then can the steez factor of the boots match that of the rider and the riders various tall garments.

the "fitted" boot is unnecessary.
Jan 25 2012 5:06PM
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james6345789
Posts: 4763 - Karma: 465
My meter is broken...

Well this is embarrassing
Jan 25 2012 5:07PM
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FullTiltBoots
Posts: 477 - Karma: 2,761
AA is surely jesting... Boots are fitted by a trusted boot fitter of the pros or we find one for the pro if it's not as easy as slipping on...
Jan 25 2012 5:14PM
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cobra_commander
Posts: 16909 - Karma: 4,682
You don't develope new molds every time you get a new athlete?
Jan 25 2012 5:21PM
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c.hale
Posts: 636 - Karma: 50
Ironic sarcasm coming from the kid who cuts his boots in half. It just seems weird that some of these kids are using boots that probably start out with a fit that is completely wrong for their foot.
Jan 25 2012 5:22PM
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a.bott
Posts: 1355 - Karma: 438
This would cost a shot load of money to make a special mold for each of the pros so..... No
Jan 25 2012 5:24PM
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.R-Lohin
Posts: 1686 - Karma: 117
Lol you just proved you are a ptard
Jan 26 2012 2:31AM
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SKI.ING
Posts: 2695 - Karma: 2,535
Where is onenerdykid when you need him?!
Jan 26 2012 2:41AM
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D-40
Posts: 6050 - Karma: 100
Allen is President Obama's boot molder so I think he knows what he is talking about.
Jan 26 2012 2:49AM
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shr@gler
Posts: 1233 - Karma: 912

Plastic stretches!, liners mould, footbeds secure the foot.

A skilled bootfitter can make any boot fit any foot! (with enough work)

Jan 26 2012 11:05AM
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Blurst
Posts: 13577 - Karma: 10,168
They are just like yo dawg LETS DO THIS!!!! and then they switch for ever
Jan 26 2012 11:08AM
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ARMADAR7
Posts: 401 - Karma: 36
Bump to hear what onenerdykid has t say
Jan 31 2012 8:45PM
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ThundaKilla
Posts: 2859 - Karma: 3,733
bumping
Jan 31 2012 9:11PM
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.R-Lohin
Posts: 1686 - Karma: 117
^ and ^^ fuck off.
Jan 31 2012 9:41PM
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garrettwiz
Posts: 2662 - Karma: 34
I'm sponsored by nordica but still use my fulltilt liners in my boots, there's nothing like them.
Feb 1 2012 1:51PM
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VD.
Posts: 4054 - Karma: 4,564
You can get your boots stretched
Feb 1 2012 2:29PM
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tomPietrowski
Posts: 7099 - Karma: 17,043
The pro's start with the same boots as you and me could buy. They are somtimes modded to change the boots. For example Dane Tudor used SPK Pro's last season but with a differnt front spoiler/ladder bridge. Other then doing small things like this liners and footbeds can be changes. If you put a foam liner in an SPK it can fit a narrow foot very well. Dumont just used normal SPK pro's with intution liners. Bobby and woodsy just use standard SPK's with footbeds, and douglas uses Ghosts with intutions.

So as you can see for the most parts boots are pretty much standard for pro's too, they just get them well fitted.
Feb 1 2012 3:47PM
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Yinzer
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Each pro has a custom molded foot that fits perfectly with FT's boot
Feb 1 2012 3:58PM
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SKIRACK
Posts: 111 - Karma: 145
So as most of you that saw the picture that my buddy Dan J Cardon took of me fitting BDOG, yes now hes in FTs. And no, all FT riders dont get custom fitted, although yes I was sent down to custom fit BDOG. Some riders have the luck of just sliding the boot on and slaying on it without even a heat mold. So BDOG was in SPKs but that doesnt mean much. A ton of riders are in that tug boat of a boot because people think that its a park boot and its comfy. Some riders that are in it love it cause it fits well, others just are in it cause it was the only park boot at the shop they went to. The truth is the best park boot is going to be the best fitting boot. That being said once I checked out Bdogs foot I knew that it was a better fit in the Original FT shell which is a 99mm last. That combined with its completely heat moldable liner, its a bit more generous than what most people think...as long as it is fit properly. And yes FTs do come in a 102mm last but the original 99mm is where its at. The SPK is a cavernous boot and unless you have a very high volume foot, I would say that there are better fits out there. I have a high volume foot as well as some of my homies and local riders and we can do all kinds of magical shit to FTs. Check out the custom work I did for Matty B of Eastern Collective, got him back in his boots after almost 2 years of recovery. Cheers. We fit the Pros. https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/657235/
Feb 3 2012 9:11AM
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Spinoza
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I tried on ft boots the overt day and they felt super tight, But b-dog is like a skinny hobbit so he could fit into anything.
Feb 3 2012 9:19AM
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Spinoza
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Oh there's asian_allen. I was wondering where he'd got to
Feb 3 2012 9:19AM
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Legoman
Posts: 533 - Karma: 13
Honestly if you cant fit in a 98mm boot you either have giant flipper feet or your just been a pussy and used to wearing sloppy footwear.
Feb 3 2012 9:50AM
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Steakhead
Posts: 490 - Karma: 233
OMG I use the same boots as Douglas #claim

All jokes aside Intuition liners are where it is at..Warm and comfy...Oh yeah light too.

Feb 3 2012 10:40AM
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hjb
Posts: 742 - Karma: 40
I'm sure that Nordica are stoked on this...
Feb 3 2012 10:45AM
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VD.
Posts: 4054 - Karma: 4,564
The same thing happened to me tried on the konflicts could hardly do the buckles up, I really wish I could wear FTs, the concept behind them is great just they don't fit me
Feb 3 2012 1:31PM
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onenerdykid
Posts: 6638 - Karma: 10,532
Quoting for truth.

Pros get shipped the same boots you get in a shop, but they need to still get fitted. This is where guys like me and Ryan @ Skirack come into the equation. Phil got his boots dialed and now lives in comfy foot heaven. No pro skier would ever go without a proper fitting, it just isn't worth it.
Feb 3 2012 1:43PM
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snocompton
Posts: 2014 - Karma: 267
getting boot work done is more valuable t han anyt hing else you can possiby buy.


intuition liners are worth every single penny.
Feb 3 2012 3:09PM
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SKIRACK
Posts: 111 - Karma: 145
Yes and Yes, intuitions are amazing. Not just for FTs. Ive used them in all my boots for the past 3 years.
Feb 23 2012 7:58AM
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