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Things judges could hate about Russ Henshaw..

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prettygood
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you know any?

guy gets robbed almost every contest.



Jan 22 2012 6:33PM
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RubberSoul
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fuck yeah knowledge is power!!
Jan 22 2012 10:20PM
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DayMan
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definitely robbed, those landings were sooo clean
Jan 22 2012 10:24PM
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eheath
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wrong
Jan 22 2012 10:25PM
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Age
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Russ is the man. Carna Aussies.
Jan 22 2012 10:27PM
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bardissono
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that's exactly what I thought, they just couldn't bear to watch because it hurt their eyes so bad.

but really that run should have at least probably put him up in the top four
Jan 22 2012 10:34PM
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jake_tom_sully
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I honestly don't understand what the judges are looking for. Wallisch deserved to win but the judging is soo inconsistent. Russ was 1 of 2 people to transfer those boxes and 3 swuped them, I think his rails were definitely at least decent. and whether you like his or geopper's styles or not they are similar and I think he definitely had a better jump run. judging is subjective yatta yatta yatta but their scores were pretty different. I'm ramblin but i guess i dont understand how similar runs with similar styles can be scored so far apart. at least in moguls scores are justified jeez. comps are getting dumb, I feel like judging good or bad, is flawed and inconsistent in big comps these days.
Jan 22 2012 11:07PM
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bobs
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i feel like alot of people are overlooking that he transferred from the middle up to the left down box on his 3 swap. not a rail but pretty tech in my opinion
Jan 22 2012 11:11PM
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array.
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sam... Y U NO LIKE HENRIK HARLAUT!?
Jan 22 2012 11:18PM
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PJS.
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derek...I NO SMOKE WEED SO I NO LIKEY HENRIK


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Nah, Henrik is cool, I like henrik.
Jan 22 2012 11:25PM
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Stose
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Russ Henshaw is incredibly technical and consistant. He's one of my favorite skiers, maybe my favorite, and im gonna smash someones head if he keeps getting robbed like this
Jan 22 2012 11:26PM
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C.L
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If you're referring to what I think you are, then you have no idea what you're talking about.
Jan 22 2012 11:36PM
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Dan.P
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Pray tell
Jan 22 2012 11:48PM
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FUUUCK
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had he thrown a bigger trick off the third rail he would've placed much better IMO.
Jan 23 2012 1:07AM
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T.Hartman
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I saw better use of the features up top in the girls comp than in Russ Henshaw"s run.

In my opinion this judging is improving. Hopefully with Xgames coming up the judges continue to reward the rail portion of slopestyle.
Jan 23 2012 1:31AM
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CrotchKiller
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boooom
Jan 23 2012 1:50AM
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icon1234
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I love how everyone here is hating thinking just because he hits boxes instead of rails it makes his tricks any less difficult.

First rail, lip 270 on, pretty fucking hard, def respetable in my books.

Second rail, 360 switch up transfer to 270 out. Like that trick blew my mind. To transfer that gap makes it equally as difficult as doing a 3 up on a rail.

3rd rail, I think it was a 450 out on a box? Yea pretty week, but um seeing as how Wallisch did a sw on 450 out of a rail, and personally i think it is easier to spin out of rails so idk how you can justify this one feature as the justification for getting scored lowed every single time.
Jan 23 2012 2:04AM
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easy.steezy
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Sarcasm?
Jan 23 2012 2:09AM
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eheath
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lip 2 to straight... not that tech, hes a fucking pro skier not a 16 yo grom

he transfered from a 2ft wide box to another 2ft wide box, huge margin of error where he can land, etc he pretty much did a blind 4 out of the box and landed on a box for two seconds and 2'd out. The most played trick in the comp game

he hit the box, its a deduction. rails = harder in a comp, doesnt matter what you think is easier.


he also only did a sw dub 9... i dont get why you guys think his run was better than any of the top 6 from the contest...
Jan 23 2012 2:10AM
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icon1234
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Honestly you can argue all you want, the only valid point you have is that his 3rd rail trick was pretty weak. I think lip 2 on and, that 3 up transfer was just as hard as anyone who placed in the top 3 did on those two features. O yea sammy just did a normal 270 on to the first rail to straight, based on your logic that should be a major deduction. O for another example sammy just does a normal sw 9, but sw dub 9 is worth mentioning as another major deduction.

You can try and justify all you want why this run shouldn't of scored high, but if you compare this run to anyone who finished from 3-6 postion, you would prob place it higher than all of them if you look at it honestly.



Jan 23 2012 2:24AM
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eheath
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Well maybe he should have got 4th or 5th but certainty not top 3
Jan 23 2012 2:37AM
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icon1234
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I agree I would of had Henrik at 3rd, that second dub was next level shit. But the main purpose about this argument was that I feel like this same situation happens to Russ all the time, and it seems people just justify him getting scored 3-4 places lower than what he deserves by simply saying "he has weak rail tricks" which I believe to hardly ever be the case.
Jan 23 2012 2:40AM
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easy.steezy
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Threads, cause I accidentally deleted it out of my threads haha, stupid iPod.
Jan 23 2012 2:44AM
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sick-as-aids
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honestly YOU can argue all you want, but at the end of the day, the results are the results, and Henrik didnt come 3rd, and Russ came 5th, and thats the way it was, and the way it should of been, because thats how the judges saw it at the time in the moment......Eheath isnt the one arguing, as he is making justified assumptions to how the results actually played out..... you are the one arguing as you are trying to change the way it was and rank your opinion over the judges... so just hush.
Jan 23 2012 3:04AM
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icon1234
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Arguing and justifying are pretty much the same thing, the only thing different about them is the point of view you're taking. I also don't understand the point of your post, like what are you trying to prove? This thread was about how Russ got screwed with judging, if you don't like reading about people bitching about things that cannot be changed why did you even open the thread?
Jan 23 2012 3:12AM
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Toby.Dickson
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fill me in coonrad
Jan 23 2012 3:32AM
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Casual.
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i agree that those were retardedly smooth landings. but i can not support that uncredibly ugly jacket pant combo. holy puke
Jan 23 2012 3:35AM
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CrotchKiller
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why are you bitching about things you cannot and will not change?
Jan 23 2012 3:44AM
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sick-as-aids
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the thread was about factors as to why russ doesnt get scored highly.. It has been pointed out that it is likely that his rail game is lacking possible technicality or difficulty compared to the riders in the top 3. Is that not fair? that answered the thread...?

all im saying is that it is unnecessary to go on and on about shit that is out of your hands and is a case of the glass half full or half empty. at the end of the day, the judges at this event, judge the scores as they did, and there would of been factors to russ's run, (lets say hitting boxes instead of rails), that in this event, scored him lower than the other guys.

If you look at his dew run in breck, i personally believe he holds back a little bit on the rail sections. dont get me wrong, he slays rails, but other riders put more risk factor into their rail section and hence come out on top when it comes off
Jan 23 2012 3:55AM
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prettygood
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yepp, i didn`t mean him to be on top, wallisch and brown were on another level. i just watched the run then heard his score, and compared to, e.g. sammy & goepper, he got robbed. plus the fact that this seems to happen on so many occasions, so i made a thread about it.
Jan 23 2012 4:11AM
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aleeeex
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Suchhh a smooth run!! Definitely needed an Australian on that podium yeeeeww!
But I agree I'm not a fan of his pro jacket and pants either, a little much!!
Jan 23 2012 4:50AM
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easy.steezy
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Jan 23 2012 7:23AM
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steezy.stew
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I noticed this as well. He wasn't making it much past the nuckle, while everybody else was taking them HUGE
Jan 23 2012 8:46AM
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icon1234
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Cause it makes me feel good talking about useless shit, and helps take my mind off of the shit that actual matters? Also your logic is pretty flawed, if people never bitched about things they directly couldn't affect, then discourse on politics would never occur, not to mention a lot of other topics. Just because you can't change something, doesn't mean it's not worth arguing about.
Jan 23 2012 11:47AM
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Karma_Police
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I'm curious if the judges are the same for all the dew tour stops.  If they are somewhat local/from the east coast I wonder if they do put more emphasis on rails than a judge from the west.  If that's the case Russ would obviously be held up as far as scoring was concerned.
Jan 23 2012 12:06PM
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kingskier
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i think judges should watch all the runs before making a final decision. cause if you go early its unlike your gonna score that high even if your run is sick. give a indicator score then watch all the runs on playback and decide.
Jan 23 2012 12:33PM
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mistaT
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Seems rather explanatory to me:

Hitting the boxes + not taking the landings deep (waaay shorter than Tom/Bobby) + not a big name + first runs always being scored lower for TV ratings/purposes + a goofy purple jacket = a respectable but not great score.
Jan 23 2012 1:32PM
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I_liketobutter
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bc a blind 4 out of an up box spinning his natural direction is a joke in a dew tour final. its like the guys only doing a fs270 out of a rail a couple years ago....WEAK
Jan 23 2012 3:03PM
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skodeo7
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There's no way they are using "local" judges. It's almost always the same group of judges.
Jan 23 2012 3:07PM
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LeoSpaceman
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rail section was weak.
spinning both ways isn't just for jumps.

all mute grabs too on the jumps? can't remember. that's the one thing i really disliked about henrik's run...all safety grabs. maybe i'm wrong about russ's.
Jan 23 2012 3:51PM
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*jwill*
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i agree with this, but i still think he was underscored.
Jan 23 2012 4:12PM
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Alp1ne
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On the 3sawp he transfered from the middle box to the one on the left.
Jan 23 2012 4:19PM
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B_K
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i dont have a problem with sammy carlson at all but i cant believe he got a 90 and russ only got an 85..???/that amazes me..personally i think russes run was hella cleaner than sammys and russ did 3 dubs...just my 2 cents
Jan 23 2012 4:31PM
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Billiards.
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I think Ill be the moderate here and say that Russ should have scored higher than he did because his run was clean and hes jumps were on point, but Ill also agree with the rail argument. His rails were pretty stock and his low score was well reflected in this. I think he probably should have been 4th at the farthest down.

What baffles me though is how high Sammy scored, while Russ was so much lower? Strait 2 on in a comp and that wacky 540 handdrag and 4 on to miss the rail were far more mediocre than what Russ did. I would like to see Russ do slightly harder rail tricks and trump some of the shittier runs.
Jan 23 2012 4:43PM
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Panda_with_Guns
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bump for x games slope
Jan 26 2012 11:15PM
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CK_Ski
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THE JUDGES STOLE HIS POLE!!!!!!
Jan 26 2012 11:21PM
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Stickity
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apparently being able to get the jumps speed perfect and landing right after the knuckle where your landing will be the softest and smoothest is a bad thing......
Jan 26 2012 11:24PM
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TheWakes.
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go big or go home.
Jan 26 2012 11:50PM
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eheath
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It actually is. Its call amplitude, they want you to go big, its a simple rule in ALL contests.
Jan 26 2012 11:52PM
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bleevus
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Yeah it is. Judges want you to go big. that is why Alexis Dodbout always does so well at Dew Tour Breck. going big looks better and makes the trick harder, thus, the skiers that go bigger will score better. However, Russ Henshaw's run was unbelievable and i was in shock and truly disappointed that he did not finish his last run after dropping his pole. I guess thats what pole straps are for. His run was sick.
Jan 26 2012 11:53PM
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scientist
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he just doesnt pop as much as the other competitors. go back and watch his run, he like doesnt pop. loss of amplitude and loss of wow factah = lower overall impression = lower score.
Jan 27 2012 1:02AM
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