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Seriously, this should stop.

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Ryan*
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So, I've been noticing something that has been permeating this site. I don't know if it's on the rise, per se, I may just be noticing it more. Doesn't really matter, what matters is that it's there. And that's all these gay insults. Calling people faggots, queers, homos, all this bullshit. Now, I'm a pretty laid back guy who, especially on the internet where I don't actually know anyone, isn't very quick to get into anyone's business. But this is just stupid, crude and backwards. We have gay members on this site. I won't name names because it's not my place to be dragging others into this but I'm sure many of us know a few. The way we use it, calling someone a faggot is the same as calling someone an asshole or an idiot. So what you're saying when you use one of these terms to get down on someone is that gay people are assholes, idiots, bad people who deserve to be looked down upon.
Now I'm sure that most of the people who say these things have never even thought of it this way...but now you have. And now you should stop. I'm not trying to say you're all shit heads for saying it, I used to say it all the time, but I changed when I realized how it would make the kid next to me feel if he was a closeted gay; like he could never be honest with anyone because they would hate him for who he was. I don't say those things anymore and I don't allow others to say them around me. I tell them that it offends me and I ask them politely to stop, and I've changed my friends too because they know that I won't tolerate it. It's within your power to, little by little, remove this part of your vocabulary from you and those around you, and if enough of us insist on it, it will be rid of this site. And I think it's about time that that happens.
Mar 7 2011 10:07PM
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S.C
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yea i concur
Mar 7 2011 11:35PM
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ImNotARacist
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I love how the beginning of this thread it was cool to agree. Now its cool to disagree.

Now its gonna be cool to call us all fags
Mar 7 2011 11:41PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Congrats on the ban.
Mar 7 2011 11:43PM
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RudyGarmisch
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These have been the rules from day 1 dipshit.
Mar 7 2011 11:44PM
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.rotaG
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"faggot" was not a bannable offense until several months ago
Mar 7 2011 11:46PM
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bangarangmules
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This, I find myself saying it from time to time. Saying like "oh that's gay." However, when I say it I never really think about a person or thing's sexual preferences. Just a phrase that I heard a lot when I was at an impressionable age. I try to fix myself every time I say it though, because I know it insults a lot of people.
Mar 7 2011 11:46PM
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RudyGarmisch
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No it hasnt. I was banned when I was 16 for using it.
Mar 7 2011 11:48PM
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.rotaG
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i used to use it all the time until ashley warned me several months ago that they were starting to crack down on it

guess i was sneaky about it
Mar 7 2011 11:51PM
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ImNotARacist
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If you guys knew the origins of a lot of words and sayings we use every day, there would be a lot of threads like these

Cigarrettes use to be called fags for god sakes. "faggot" is actually a derogatory word with no other use but to insult. The rest is slang. Louis CK sums it up. If you can't tell the difference between insulting someone with the intention of hurt and insulting someone to make it apparent that they are being really stupid or annoying well then I guess your just really stupid.


Pomme-de-terre I love you.
Mar 7 2011 11:56PM
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AHSkier
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you are the only one with sense on this thread hats off to you. who saw my first post?
Mar 7 2011 11:58PM
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Raz.
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I dont want too sound like a whiny bitch, but this shit used too affect me a lot. my brother is literally a gay basher so he would always say how much gay people deserve to die. wasnt cool.
Mar 8 2011 12:00AM
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shibby
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Uh oh, double standard...
Mar 8 2011 12:00AM
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ImNotARacist
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Thanks man, I saw your first post. Its comforting to know at least a few people think for themselves on NS.
Mar 8 2011 12:00AM
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FerrisBueller
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10/10k
Mar 8 2011 12:00AM
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Flying~Squirrel
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+k to OP, i was thinking of making this thread myself but for some odd reason felt that it would only receive hate. +k more because you clearly have larger testes than i.
Mar 8 2011 12:02AM
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ImNotARacist
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That Is ALOT different than my friend being annoying and me calling him a fag. Im sorry but your brother is just an ignorant bigot. You have to just laugh at people like that because there is no changing the way they think.

Im sorry if my opinion offends you at all.
Mar 8 2011 12:05AM
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skier_boy26
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There were a few gay guys in my arch studio. They were cool, but it was always awkward when some of us would refer to something as gay. IT ISN'T MEANT TO BE DEROGATORY

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The F WordTags: SOUTHPARKmore...

Mar 8 2011 12:07AM
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Ryan*
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I did. And here's the difference.

"Seth Walsh, a 13-year-old California middle school student, died in the hospital on Tuesday, days after he attempted to take his own life after reportedly enduring relentless bullying. Seth, a student at Jacobsen Middle School in Tehachapi, Calif., was found unconscious and not breathing on Sept. 19 after he apparently tried to hang himself from a tree in his backyard, according to a police report obtained by The Bakersfield Californian. Friends told NBC affiliate that Seth had been picked on for years because he was gay."

"The eighth-grader killed himself last week. He shot himself in the head after enduring what his mother and stepfather say was constant harassment from four other students at Hamilton Middle School in the Cypress-Fairbanks Independent School District.

Brown, his family said, was "bullied to death" — picked on for his small size, his religion and because he did not wear designer clothes and shoes. Kids also accused him of being gay, some of them performing mock gay acts on him in his physical education class, his mother and stepfather said."


http://www.queerty.com/billy-lucas-15-hangs-himself-after-classmates-called-him-a-fag-one-too-many-times-20100914/

"Billy Lucas, a 15-year-old freshman at Greensburg High School in Indiana, hung himself on Thursday after enduring bullying torment from his peers -- just a few weeks into the school year. His mother found her son, hanging, in their barn. On Billy's Facebook web memorial, he's remembered with comments like, "Everyone made fun of him." At least one former student says he made administrators aware of his own LGBT bullying, and they did nothing."

Mar 8 2011 12:07AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Fuck you talking about, double standard. If you want to insult someone, you can do it in moderation (as I'm doing now you gargantuan inbred scrumpt), but racism and demeaning words are not allowed here. Its not hard for most people to understand, but since you've demonstrated your level of intelligence, I took the time here to spell it out plainly. Let me know if you need more help.
Mar 8 2011 12:10AM
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ImNotARacist
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You are taking this sooooooo much farther than what it really is. I thought we were talking about casually throwing the words fag or homo around, not constant harassment.

You should stay consistent in your argument.
Mar 8 2011 12:16AM
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shocker611
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not gonna lie i use them both a good amount in everyday life, and I really dont like it but its what ive grown up around and become accustomed to and it will probably never change to be completely honest. I absolutely hate it when I find that I have said it around a gay person, because although i disagree with the homosexual community in some aspects, that doesnt take away from the person and I would never want to insult them.
Mar 8 2011 12:17AM
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ImNotARacist
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For the record I could argue just as well for your arguement as I could against it, so don't try and call me out as ignorant or not seeing the bigger picture.

Mar 8 2011 12:20AM
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Ryan*
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Not that I particularly relish the idea of arguing with you, but...

Your friend was saying that everyone gets offended by some words and that people can get offended by the word "gaper" just as easily as the word "faggot." I was showing him that they are of two completely different categories and that in fact one category is more hurtful than the other. Far more hurtful. Calling someone a gaper over and over again doesn't lead to them tying a rope around their neck and jumping out of a tree in their backyard, or taking their dad's gun out of the nightstand drawer and firing a .22 round into their own skull. I'm not saying that what we do on this site will lead directly to someone committing suicide. I am saying that the words we're using are hurtful in a way that only a few words in the English language are, and that they can only push somebody in the wrong direction.
Mar 8 2011 12:23AM
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ImNotARacist
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I understand what you mean but using those words relies entirely on the context of the situation. A bunch of shit head middle school kids harassing a poor child to the point of suicide is much much much different than some one calling their friend a fag.

Im not sure who you are referring to about the gaper thing, but your right thats just dumb.

Mar 8 2011 1:11AM
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shibby
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I just don't give a fuck...
Mar 8 2011 1:13AM
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313ridah
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Congrats on being a politically correct fascist who is unwilling to accept peoples opinions other than your own/popular opinions. You're the epitome of a flaming homosexual. And yes, I mean that you're an asshole, idiot, bad person who deserve to be looked down upon.
Mar 8 2011 1:17AM
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Daph
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Openness about sexual orientation is becoming more and more prevalent, and as times change so does what is acceptable to say. It used to be ok to say the n word, now it isn't. I see no issue with people taking offense to the overuse of "gay" and "faggot" and I think it is a shame that it has become a derogatory slur. Kudos to the OP
Mar 8 2011 1:19AM
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GayWolf420
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Its uncool and fucking lame.
Mar 8 2011 1:22AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Hahahhahaha, banned.
Mar 8 2011 1:23AM
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SgtSteamy
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Me too :/
Mar 8 2011 1:24AM
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shibby
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I can't believe people are still defending censorship...
Mar 8 2011 1:27AM
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RudyGarmisch
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In this clearly democratic website, oh yes.
Mar 8 2011 1:43AM
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poptarts4life
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During the summer between highschool and college I asked friends did you know who you were rooming with in dorms, while at a big bonfire. One kid we all knew to be gay was there and he is a friend of mine so i said "who are you rooming with" and he replied " idk i'm doing random" I said " hopefully it's not some fag". The silence at the bonfire was so awkward, he smiled and said "yep", he knew it was just an accident, but I try to not say stuff like that. It's hard to break habits and the few gays I know understand it and are fine as long as it's not excessive. I will say though I hate it when gay people go out of their way to make sure people know they are gay though : / my two cents
Mar 8 2011 2:01AM
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Rbamf
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hahaha
Mar 8 2011 2:03AM
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friedcheese
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This is by far the gayest thread on this site, congratulations.
Mar 8 2011 2:25AM
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Downtofilm
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Pomme-de-terre

10/10 sigged the first paragraph
Mar 8 2011 2:30AM
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neutralzombie
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if you tip off the mods when it's posted in a thread it often results in a ban. they can't see everything.
Mar 8 2011 2:31AM
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Downtofilm
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sig test
Mar 8 2011 2:33AM
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neutralzombie
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you officially suck.
Mar 8 2011 2:35AM
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TehGaim
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Your trying to hard.
Mar 8 2011 2:36AM
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Raz.
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It is, however, acceptabe too call something gay if you literally mean it as gay. IE a pink shirt, a guy skipping, shit like that. I'm not saying it isnt "bad" so too speak, but it is acceptable in my book.
Mar 8 2011 2:16PM
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ImNotARacist
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I can now say I have been approved to say such things, because I really use gay a lot but just in that context. Usually along the lines of dude you're so gay. Or they will say something that didn't quite come out right we'd say "Yougay? Cause I mean I'll except you man." Pisses some of my buddies off pretty bad. All acceptable right my friend?
Mar 8 2011 3:26PM
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TechnoPotamus
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Mar 8 2011 3:29PM
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arneson
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Yeahhh I thought this thread was gonna get a bunch of shit from people
Mar 8 2011 3:32PM
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Nathn
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So we can open fire on people's level of intelligence but can't poke fun at them if they like dick in their bum? That's backwards.
Mar 8 2011 3:45PM
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ImNotARacist
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So crude, So true.
Mar 8 2011 3:54PM
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Chunter
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The hardest part of doing this has just been trying to find new words to use in place of the slurs; gay espeically since it was used so commonly. Lame seems to be working good for me haha. Now its just a matter of changing it permanently.
Mar 8 2011 3:58PM
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Sallabillz
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Mar 8 2011 4:32PM
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Sallabillz
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..just anotha case ..of an ignorant niggaaa
Mar 8 2011 4:34PM
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