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Ager Stefan Stubai drop PTTP Deleted (Why)

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Downtofilm
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For anyone who doesn't know what I mean by that video its the gnarly one of the guy falling off the cliff backwards but surviving.

Anyone know why it might have been deleted it had like 200k views.
+k for answers and who posts an alter link to the video
Mar 5 2011 4:57AM
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deathcookie
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9abNnZ2-jnw
Mar 5 2011 8:39AM
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vauban08
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He said in a local newspaper he deleted it because of the freeride codex which is against glorifying crashes. He didn't want to brag about walking away unharmed but simply show the dangers of the mountains.
Mar 5 2011 2:44PM
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j.bird
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or he felt like a fucking idiot for making one of the stupidest mistakes I have ever seen. he is tired of being flamed for it.
Mar 5 2011 2:56PM
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vauban08
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I wouldn't judge too quickly - guy had bad luck just wanting to angle his skis downwards.

Anyway, that's what he said in Tiroler Tageszeitung
Mar 5 2011 3:13PM
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crab_pretzel
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maybe he took it off his vimeo account, but its still on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QliBL-AQiAY&feature=player_embedded
Mar 5 2011 3:21PM
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j.bird
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..... bad luck???? how can you chalk that up to bad luck? the dude clicked into his skis in the STUPIDEST place, then proceeded to just start side slipping and sliding backwards without looking where he was going. That point he was on was no more than 4 feet wide. WHY in gods name would you move AT ALL except straight down hill?

Or just step down 10 feet from the top to begin with. Do you have to strap in next to imminent death? No. Not bad luck.
Mar 5 2011 3:26PM
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vauban08
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Chill, ok? This guy is a sports student, local, experienced. He didn't want to slide backwards but simply aim his skis downwards, therefore he went back for 2 or 3 ft maximum, which even on the top usually is no problem. He simply didn't think about the fact that there was a bump behind him in the cliff line. Sure it was a mistake, but don't try to make it bigger than it is. Consequences were more severe, but not the mistake itself. Don't talk shit about people you don't know.

And while I don't know where you strap in, it is quite common over here to start from the very top. The Alps are not exactly a place for beginners, so people usually have a good sense calculating risks.
Mar 5 2011 3:33PM
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steezeeepolizeee
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I think it would have almost been more scary for his friend
Mar 5 2011 3:38PM
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Static
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well dont try to make it bad luck, had a cornice broke away, his binding released, a bird flew into his face then ok call it bad luck, but skiing backwards off a cliff you were just assessing isn't bad luck
Mar 5 2011 3:57PM
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MN_Nice
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Holy shitballs.
Mar 5 2011 4:00PM
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derpina
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That's what I was thinking the first time I saw it... Like watch your friend just roll over to (what you think) is his death.

Careless mistake. He got so lucky.
Mar 5 2011 4:06PM
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j.bird
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he simply didn't look where he was going while next to imminent death? Bigger than it is? How much stupider can you get? And I will talk shit all I want, the guy is lucky to be alive. And anyone who cares to act in the same fashion after seeing that video deserves what they get from their "simple mistake"
Mar 5 2011 4:30PM
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ski_ENDUB
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TOSH.0 WEB REDEMPTION!
Mar 5 2011 4:31PM
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j.bird
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And judging by the way L@@x is defending his stupidity because he seems to know him, makes me feel like I probably nailed the reason he took the video down. World wide ridicule.
Mar 5 2011 4:33PM
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Static
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great idea
Mar 5 2011 4:51PM
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tratank
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I think a much more likely reason for him taking it down is that he has sold the footage!

If for example a body armour brand bought the footage to use in an ad for example they would ask for the original to be taken down to push people towards the version with the promotion on.

The problem is there are so many people out there now that simply download popular videos and reupload them as their own in order to gain views that the original version will now probably forever be available online anyway...
Mar 5 2011 5:51PM
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austrianguest
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actually a little part of the cornice broke, look at his right foot when the fall starts...

Just came to your forum while searching for stuff about the footage, just felt like joining the conversation saying this, couse nobody mentioned it before.
Don´t mind the spelling and grammar, I´m from Austria, as Stefan :)

Cheers
Mar 5 2011 6:06PM
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FreeBallin
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since you have such a badass mentality.

How do you feel about the Riley Poor accident(sadly a stupid mistake)? Feel the same way?
Mar 5 2011 6:11PM
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j.bird
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Are you stupid? In what way does this make any sense?...how is that even remotely related? No need to bring in other people who have suffered unrelated tragic injuries and try to make comparisons.

And also, not sure how I have a "badass" mentality. Quite the opposite actually. That guy who fell was trying to be too "badass" and got a little ahead of himself without paying attention to what was going on. I think being careful and smart is the opposite of "badass".

Feel the same way about what? That the guy made a HUGE mistake? I can't even follow your logic to give you an answer.
Mar 5 2011 6:16PM
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FreeBallin
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keep avoiding..its what I expected


Simply mistake with horrible results....thats my logic...try to follow it big guy
Mar 5 2011 6:18PM
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vauban08
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Call it what you want, I see a difference between skiing backwards for fun or slightly overdoing your repositioning of your skis. He made a minor mistake and had bad luck that it ended this way.
Mar 5 2011 6:28PM
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vauban08
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He took it down so people like you couldn't rant about it, be it critical or admiring. This video had originally one purpose: showing how little mistakes can have big impacts and that you need to be 100% focused when you're doing things like this. People either cheering for his bad ass stunt or babbling about how this was a stupid mistake (implying that a normal person could easily have a safe day on a 1000ft cliff) were the reason he took the video down.
Mar 5 2011 6:33PM
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vauban08
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Freedom of opinion is about being allowed to express an opinion, not about having to express it. If you don't have a clue, why not simply shut up for a change?

Mar 5 2011 6:38PM
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icon1234
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What a retard, he could of made some decent money from his stupid mistake, easily could of sold the rights of that video.
Mar 5 2011 7:02PM
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FreeBallin
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ya cause he probably deleted it from his hard drive as well.....?


Really starting to think NS and the words logic/common sense....dont belong in the same sentence.
Mar 5 2011 7:05PM
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icon1234
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From what I skimmed in this thread it seems the reason he took the video down was because he felt like he had some ethical obligation to take it down. So i am assuming he would def not sell the rights of the video either, so yea sick common sense.
Mar 5 2011 7:10PM
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j.bird
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so I was right.

Thanks!

And to the other idiot. Avoiding what? bringing in a completely unrelated iinocent person and throwing around assumptions and blame for someone who's life will never be the same? Sorry But I will take the high road on that one pal.
Mar 5 2011 8:26PM
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vauban08
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I think not. :D
Mar 5 2011 8:30PM
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DaysToCome
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ya he may not have clicked in in the best spot but i dont thnik he meant to slide back. He brings his upper foot down to match the lower one and the angle of the lower one was enough to start him sliding. The backwards movement was in no way intentional from what i could tell.
Mar 5 2011 9:06PM
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FreeBallin
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keep avoiding, your a hack and proving it to everyone
Mar 5 2011 9:43PM
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ThaLetterM.
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you love to make yourself look like an idiot on the internet. do you do it on purpose?
Mar 5 2011 9:56PM
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j.bird
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I love people like you and the guy above you. Once you have no real point or logic you resort to insults. That's normally the way it goes when people are wrong and have nothing else to say.
Mar 5 2011 10:19PM
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j.bird
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i don't know what I am supposed to say? You keep saying this But I STILL have no idea what you are talking about or how I could possibly answer/respond to you?
Mar 5 2011 10:21PM
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Triple_Strum
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I am pretty sure he already said he was drawing a comparison to your judgment of this guy Stefan who fell by being "careless" and "deserved it" in your opinion, and others like Riley Poor who also do "careless" things and end up really injured. Just seems like you have some bitter judgment of others. You might want to be careful with that.
Mar 5 2011 10:28PM
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ThaLetterM.
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hey, thanks man, I love you too.
Mar 5 2011 10:39PM
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j.bird
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Where the problem lies is that I never said that anyone who acts stupidly deserves to be injured. (Which is a MASSIVE leap in logic, although some might even agree with this cough*darwin*cough)

To bring up another random person who has actually suffered a tragic injury is irrelevant, immature, and low.

To quote myself I said "And anyone who cares to act in the same fashion after seeing that video deserves what they get from their "simple mistake""

The important part being "act in the same fashion" not act stupidly or careless.

The "ethical" reason for taking it down makes no sense. How would it encourage people to go out into the mountains and act carelessly? If anything it should be used as a testament to the precautions and safety measures that are absolutely necessary in situations like the one the guy put himself into.
Mar 5 2011 10:39PM
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j.bird
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NEVER said he deserved it. I said "And anyone who cares to act in the same fashion after seeing that video deserves what they get from their "simple mistake"
Mar 5 2011 10:41PM
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j.bird
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TRIPLE POST! ha

And I am done with this thread!
Mar 5 2011 10:42PM
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Triple_Strum
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Sorry, I didnt realize I was putting words in your mouth. However, after re-reading some of your comments seem that you vaguely insinuate that you don't feel bad for those who are tragically hurt doing something stupid. If you do feel bad then that is one thing and I am sorry. Perhaps it is just your abrasive attitude at times that makes you come across that way on the internet.
Mar 5 2011 11:08PM
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j.bird
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Fair enough. I realize that I do come off abrasive sometimes. sorry for that.
Mar 5 2011 11:20PM
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technique.
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didnt think about it?? are you kidding me?
he looked down the cliff knowing it was almost certain death. you dont forget that 5 seconds later

and increasing the severity of the consequences also increases the stupidity of the mistake. with consequences that extreme, he should have been more conscientious as to how close he was to the edge.
Mar 6 2011 2:45AM
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Roy
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Lesson learned here: The bragging rights associated in dude ranches mind with the 10 extra feet of vert he would have skiied is probably not worth the fall of near death he went on.

It was a dumb mistake all to satisfy his egos need to go from the very top. If I was skiing with him my high 5 to him at the bottom of his would be run would have been just as enthusiastic if he dopped in where he did or 10 feet lower where that crash wouldnt have happened. That said I've made lots of dumb mistakes and got lucky, as Im sure alot of other people have on NS, give the guy a break and learn from his mistake.

Mar 6 2011 6:26AM
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vauban08
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Um, no, that's why there are words like "consequence" in the first place. Do you want to call the mom who took her eyes off her child for 5 seconds only to find her being run over by a car afterwards more stupid than the one who doesn't care about her child anyway but was lucky to still have it? Because that's what your argument is about. Minor mistakes can have big consequences - big consequences don't have to result from big mistakes.

Again, he didn't forget the drop, he simply forgot that there was a small bump right behind him in the ridge.
Mar 6 2011 6:41AM
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vauban08
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Have you been to the alps? You can't start from 10 meters under the top unless you want possible cornices to drop on you while you're strapping in.
Mar 6 2011 6:51AM
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FreeBallin
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use your brain a little instead of ranting

glad others even had to explain it to you, your thought process must have a disconnect. Sorry for attacking the less fortunate.

Mar 6 2011 7:07AM
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chrismoJBEATS
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people like u should be pushed off the cliff with no skis, assHOLE
Mar 6 2011 9:25AM
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chrismoJBEATS
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Prick.
Mar 6 2011 9:26AM
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chrismoJBEATS
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throw u off a mtn and see how u feel. fagg00tt
Mar 6 2011 9:26AM
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chrismoJBEATS
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thought u were done with the thead, asss hole. People like u is why this message board blows now adays, and U should get thrown off the cliff u FUCKING asshole
Mar 6 2011 9:29AM
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graciousstallion
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Wow, NS is all about hating these days, we should be glad that he's ok and hope it never happens to anyone again.
Mar 6 2011 12:01PM
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