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bakedpow
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I am about to order a T2i body and was wondering what lens i should order with it. I am looking at some different telephoto lenses right know. Any suggestions for good lenses to use when filming is also good.
Jan 10 2011 7:39PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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fuck, I mean the non-VC model is sharper than the one with VC
Jan 13 2011 3:17PM
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chipkalback
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Random interjection into the IS debate here but if you want to know what a certain lens will look like on a certain camera body, check this out: http://www.pixel-peeper.com/adv/

Jan 13 2011 4:13PM
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cgrinnell
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I'm just saying that I know you have knowledge in regards to video and concepts of image stabilization, I am not questioning that.

I am questioning your knowledge on Video DSLR's as they are a whole different animal.

There are a lot of people out there that want to achieve the "film" look for the cheapest way possible, thus buying an IS lens is probably one of the more cheaper ways to go about it.

I respect your opinion, this is a good debate, I just want people to clearly see both of our opinions because I think it will help educate people and help them make good buying decisions :).
Jan 13 2011 4:28PM
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Ben.
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really? Why...
Jan 13 2011 4:37PM
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eheath
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Yeah for sure, IS is a good tool and very helpful but for the general audience on NS, they have limited budgets and im just trying emphasize that IS isn't needed so you can spend 900 less on a 70-200.
Jan 13 2011 4:40PM
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TWoods
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I've heard it too. This is just speculation, but when you take into consideration that the difference between a lens being tack sharp and a soft could be one element in the lens being moved a fraction of a millimetre, I would assume that at some point building the IS into the lens disrupted the mix.
Jan 13 2011 4:54PM
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Ben.
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hm. id never heard that the vc was bad. good to know though.
Jan 13 2011 5:14PM
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TWoods
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http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=400&Camera=474&Sample=0&FLI=1&API=0&LensComp=679&CameraComp=474&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=1&APIComp=0


Jan 13 2011 5:17PM
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Ben.
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wow. thats a huge difference.
Jan 13 2011 5:32PM
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bakedpow
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Ok well i am going to buy a t2i body and a 70-200mm lens with it. Hopefully i can scrape together enough to IS but it's not looking like it.
My question is would this be a first lens you buy with your camera?
Jan 16 2011 1:58AM
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eheath
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You don't need IS, save 900 dollars and buy two more lenses.


70-200 is good, a 50mm is good possibly a 30 or 35mm also too and then a wide angle, 11-16, 12-24 17-40 would be something you want too.
Jan 16 2011 3:00AM
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deleted2
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Since the t2i has a 1.6x crop factor, shouldn't he get like a 30mm to achieve the 50mm look?
Jan 16 2011 10:03AM
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Ben.
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yep.
Jan 16 2011 1:23PM
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deleted2
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alright, im learning DSLR stuff haha, regular video cameras are soo much easier hahha
Jan 16 2011 4:43PM
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Ben.
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its pretty easy. focal length x crop factor = 35mm equivalent.
Jan 16 2011 4:54PM
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PBraunstein
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so much bitching...

IS is dumb.. i dont care what phillip bloom says, he also gets a nice pay check from Canon.. i wonder why he would promote features on products for a company that pays him?

some of the best looking footage coming out of DSLRs is cine lens' which have zero stabilization. you can buy ONE cine prime for the price of some IS lenses and have heaps more benefit if you are a pure film shooter.

I agree 100% with what Landis said and think that he has provided the best advice in this thread. some of my best shots that i have procured in my year of shooting 7d have come from my mid 60's fully manual pentax 50 1.4 and as of recent, my mid 80's olympus 28 3.5 for some wider stuff (both purchased for under $100). shot in 24 with a slightly bumped shutter speed i have gotten some really interesting 'film' look shots. 
Feb 28 2011 8:14PM
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Ben.
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you like that lens? is there a specific copy i should be looking for cuz ive seen some on ebay as of late. also what adapter ring would i need?
Mar 1 2011 7:54PM
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TijmenDal
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Is anyone even going to stay on topic?

Really good zoom lenses that are cheap:
Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 - 500-600$
Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 (non-VC) 350$
Canon 70-200 f/4 - 500-600$ non-IS or like 300-400$ more with IS

Primes:
Canon 50mm f/1.8 - 100$
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 - 300$ (it's a hit or miss, some copies are good, some are turrible)
Canon 85mm f/1.8 - 400$
Mar 2 2011 1:13PM
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1337
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https://newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/605334/
Mar 2 2011 3:50PM
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